AM22 - Assistant Manager for FMM22 (Android) 1.0.1

So I can not use this app because I am only playing challenges 🙃. 

Is this app can give big advantage in challenges?? 

If yes than OK to not to use it and if this gives slightest advantage than people  should allow to use it in challenges.. 

We should attract more FMM players to play challenges.. 🤔 . 

If they play more challenges they might not ask about tactics roles coaches ..

Because they learn themselves while playing challenges .

11 hours ago, Superking said:

So I can not use this app because I am only playing challenges 🙃. 

Is this app can give big advantage in challenges?? 

If yes than OK to not to use it and if this gives slightest advantage than people  should allow to use it in challenges.. 

We should attract more FMM players to play challenges.. 🤔 . 

If they play more challenges they might not ask about tactics roles coaches ..

Because they learn themselves while playing challenges .

Each challenge has their own rules, which are set by the person who owns the challenge. For example the 1KC rules can be found in the challenge post and the current owner is @FuddledFox. 

I don't think any of the current challenges say "no scouting app allowed", but that's only because there hasn't been one. I'm pretty sure that if we asked all of the challenge owners whether it's okay to use AM22, they would say no. But it's ultimately up to them - you could ask them. But I think it won't be allowed.

As for advantage, the scouting app does make it easier to find players who are better quality and who have better hidden attributes. There are signals for all of that in the game (ie ways to tell good quality players and hidden attributes), but it's harder to put together a top notch squad, because you have to read those signals rather than just do a search for players matching that.

good job

What does this symbol ( > ) means next to some players name? Great job once again @Scratch

3 hours ago, fotakis276718 said:

What does this symbol ( > ) means next to some players name? Great job once again @Scratch

Means they are loaned out. Might change that at some point in future (in next years version) to make it clearer

It's an amazing app.  At first I found nothing but emptiness.  after tick  in game save folder  I deleted the game crash and rebooted.  So the app works  Thank you to the creators of the creative app.

You're a bl**dy lifesaver, man!! This is awesome! This takes scouting to a whole new level! 

Hi.this is by far the best thing i have seen in this web.So Glad you made this version free to download.thank you

Do you plan to release the AM23 version shortly after game release or do you have some other plans?

I will gladly pay for the app just to be ready until release.

6 hours ago, zila90 said:

Do you plan to release the AM23 version shortly after game release or do you have some other plans?

I will gladly pay for the app just to be ready until release.

AM23 is a little unknown right now.

First step: I need to solve the file access problems with the newer versions of Android. Right now the app can't access the save files! AM22 was taking advantage of a loophole that Google is closing. There's theoretically a way to do it (but you will have to go to the folder and give approval), but the egs are all for image files and don't work for FMM save files. So I need to solve that first.

After that I will need to rewrite a bunch of stuff. I want it to be ready not long after it's released, but ... we'll have to see. I am working on it now though (all the bits that don't need an FMM23 save file).

7 hours ago, Scratch said:

AM23 is a little unknown right now.

First step: I need to solve the file access problems with the newer versions of Android. Right now the app can't access the save files! AM22 was taking advantage of a loophole that Google is closing. There's theoretically a way to do it (but you will have to go to the folder and give approval), but the egs are all for image files and don't work for FMM save files. So I need to solve that first.

After that I will need to rewrite a bunch of stuff. I want it to be ready not long after it's released, but ... we'll have to see. I am working on it now though (all the bits that don't need an FMM23 save file).

Yeah, I do remember something about Google closing a loophole in Android 13 onwards, though this can be solved partially by FMM's own method - moving savefiles to a folder named "sigames" in the Internal Storage.

Also, I don't know if I might get banned for saying this, but I think you might meet Jay. He worked on FMH/FMM tools before, and he was quite famous because of that before. You two could make something amazing from the kind of knowledge you guys have.

16 hours ago, NguyenDucAnh said:

Yeah, I do remember something about Google closing a loophole in Android 13 onwards, though this can be solved partially by FMM's own method - moving savefiles to a folder named "sigames" in the Internal Storage.

Also, I don't know if I might get banned for saying this, but I think you might meet Jay. He worked on FMH/FMM tools before, and he was quite famous because of that before. You two could make something amazing from the kind of knowledge you guys have.

The problem is that:

• In olden times, any app could access any file
• Then they locked it down so that apps couldn't access files in other apps areas like Android>Apps folder, but they could still access files in Documents
• Now they locked it down everywhere so you can only access files made by your app, even in Documents

Apparently there are exceptions: a) You can give your app superpowers, BUT Google only allows that on Google Play if your app is a file explorer; or b) you can prompt the user to give your app approval to access files in a particular folder.

It's the second one I'm hoping to sort out and I've made it far enough that the user can approve access to the folder and the app can open image files or write new files in the folder, but it doesn't seem to allow fms files to be opened. I've read there may be some other things you can do, but there's very little written on this, all the egs are for common files types like images etc.

Anyway, still working on it. If I can't find a way, then hopefully I can provide super access and make it free again, but we'll see what happens.

As for Jay, I know of him, but never met him, not sure why he retired (and not sure why you'd get banned?). I know he went further with things like DB Editors etc. I can probably already do that - as in I know enough to build that (if I can sort out file access, although the new version of the platform I use can make Windows apps too so there's that option now), but not sure I want to, as it may be stepping on SI Games toes too much (ie if they start losing sales for the IGE, they might want me to shut down). Haven't ruled it out entirely, but there is a bunch of stuff I want to do before that. Anyway, I'm using a platform that didn't even exist when he was creating his apps. I could certainly learn a lot from him about the file structure etc, but not sure we'd build stuff together.

10 minutes ago, Scratch said:

The problem is that:

• In olden times, any app could access any file
• Then they locked it down so that apps couldn't access files in other apps areas like Android>Apps folder, but they could still access files in Documents
• Now they locked it down everywhere so you can only access files made by your app, even in Documents

Dang it, I knew that they restricted the access to Android/data folder, but this? This is just too extreme.

13 minutes ago, Scratch said:

As for Jay, I know of him, but never met him, not sure why he retired (and not sure why you'd get banned?). I know he went further with things like DB Editors etc. I can probably already do that - as in I know enough to build that (if I can sort out file access, although the new version of the platform I use can make Windows apps too so there's that option now), but not sure I want to, as it may be stepping on SI Games toes too much (ie if they start losing sales for the IGE, they might want me to shut down). Haven't ruled it out entirely, but there is a bunch of stuff I want to do before that. Anyway, I'm using a platform that didn't even exist when he was creating his apps. I could certainly learn a lot from him about the file structure etc, but not sure we'd build stuff together.

He probably did so due to personal reason. Anyways, as you mentioned above, the database editing thing could probably still work if it was a Windows app, since people would have to edit their databases and transfer them back anyways (I don't know if later Android versions even restrict the folder access to MTP, as my Android 11 phone still works). Still hope that you guys could meet up, but before that it seems like there are more things to worry about, especially the file access problems you mentioned above, which was even more serious than I expected.

I'm not an expert on this side of the matter unfortunately, so all I could do now is to wish you good luck. But if you need any help with the database, then I'll do my best, even when my knowledge is still quite limited.

1 minute ago, NguyenDucAnh said:

Dang it, I knew that they restricted the access to Android/data folder, but this? This is just too extreme.

Yeah. I mean I get the principle, you don't want some app accessing a file from your banking app or something, but they also affected a lot of other use cases. The principle of asking the user to approve it is okay - as long as it works for all file types. Anyway, hopefully I can sort it out.

5 minutes ago, NguyenDucAnh said:

He probably did so due to personal reason. Anyways, as you mentioned above, the database editing thing could probably still work if it was a Windows app, since people would have to edit their databases and transfer them back anyways (I don't know if later Android versions even restrict the folder access to MTP, as my Android 11 phone still works). Still hope that you guys could meet up, but before that it seems like there are more things to worry about, especially the file access problems you mentioned above, which was even more serious than I expected.

I'm not an expert on this side of the matter unfortunately, so all I could do now is to wish you good luck. But if you need any help with the database, then I'll do my best, even when my knowledge is still quite limited.

Yeah, my real problems right now are with Android itself. It's Android 12 where this really kicks in, but Google won't allow a new app on Play unless it targets Android 12. Which is why I can release this for free this year, the work around still works, but my understanding is they are closing that in 13, so if I keep using that, then I can't put it on Play and it will stop working for new phones. Not ideal! 😄

Then after I sort that, I need to rewrite the whole app, as by upgrading to the latest version of the platform I'm using (which I had to do to have any chance of solving the file access thing), everything else I'm using stops working (doesn't work with the new version). Loads of fun...

This looks awesome but I can't seem to get it to work - the save files are showing up, but when I click them it loads for a few seconds, then the settings icon goes white (nothing happens when clicked though) and nothing else happens. None of the other menu buttons are clickable either.

Permissions are enabled, have tried manually adding in the folder path, un-installing and re-installing, updating my phone, clicking any 4 of the save files, but nothing seems to change the behaviour.

Anything I'm missing to get this to work?

14 hours ago, jessepapa said:

This looks awesome but I can't seem to get it to work - the save files are showing up, but when I click them it loads for a few seconds, then the settings icon goes white (nothing happens when clicked though) and nothing else happens. None of the other menu buttons are clickable either.

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Permissions are enabled, have tried manually adding in the folder path, un-installing and re-installing, updating my phone, clicking any 4 of the save files, but nothing seems to change the behaviour.

 

Anything I'm missing to get this to work?

Most likely there is something in the save file that the app is choking on. It seems to work for the vast majority of people, but every so often someone will have something unusual in the save file that causes a problem. 

If you can upload a save file here or at https://assistantmanager.app/support/ I'll take a look and see if I can work out why it's happening and whether I can fix it. Thanks.

1 hour ago, Scratch said:

Most likely there is something in the save file that the app is choking on. It seems to work for the vast majority of people, but every so often someone will have something unusual in the save file that causes a problem. 

If you can upload a save file here or at https://assistantmanager.app/support/ I'll take a look and see if I can work out why it's happening and whether I can fix it. Thanks.

Sure thing mate, just submitted on your website (my save file is a bit over 50mb so couldn't upload it direct, just added a Google Drive link to the message).

Fingers crossed it's something minor I can fix with the saves, really looking forward to using AM 😊 Thanks for looking into it

5 hours ago, jessepapa said:

Sure thing mate, just submitted on your website (my save file is a bit over 50mb so couldn't upload it direct, just added a Google Drive link to the message).

Fingers crossed it's something minor I can fix with the saves, really looking forward to using AM 😊 Thanks for looking into it

Hi, it looks like the contract section has disconnected somehow in that save file. Because I don't know the full save file specification, I have to guess how to find that section. The way I've done it works for most save files, but not this one for some reason. I suspect that if you start a new save it will work fine. 

Anyway, I can't fix the contract section not being found, but I have squashed the error that was preventing the file loading. That means you can use the app, but things like Contract Expiry, Squad Status, Tansfer Listed Status and Salary won't display and can't be searched on.

I've uploaded a new version above (1.0.1).

I left 1.0.0 there, because it may be more solid for most users - I had to roll back my dev environment to fix this and some things were a little weird. So you have to make sure you are downloading the 1.0.1.apk one.

Hope that works for you.

2 hours ago, Scratch said:

Hi, it looks like the contract section has disconnected somehow in that save file. Because I don't know the full save file specification, I have to guess how to find that section. The way I've done it works for most save files, but not this one for some reason. I suspect that if you start a new save it will work fine. 

Anyway, I can't fix the contract section not being found, but I have squashed the error that was preventing the file loading. That means you can use the app, but things like Contract Expiry, Squad Status, Tansfer Listed Status and Salary won't display and can't be searched on.

I've uploaded a new version above (1.0.1).

I left 1.0.0 there, because it may be more solid for most users - I had to roll back my dev environment to fix this and some things were a little weird. So you have to make sure you are downloading the 1.0.1.apk one.

Hope that works for you.

Legend! Thanks heaps for that, everything's working now (sans contract data) 😁

5 hours ago, jessepapa said:

Legend! Thanks heaps for that, everything's working now (sans contract data) 😁

Great, thanks for letting me know. Hopefully next game you play the contract data will be back, it's a pain not to have that! 

Can you add editor to this scouting app just in case someone needs to edit club finances etc.

18 hours ago, Mike16 said:

Can you add editor to this scouting app just in case someone needs to edit club finances etc.

You still can't get over it? This is a scouting tool, not a save editor. And please don't bother @Scratch like that - he has other things to worry about, regarding this app itself, and possibly the 2023 version. Be considerate.

19 hours ago, Mike16 said:

Can you add editor to this scouting app just in case someone needs to edit club finances etc.

No, sorry, I'm nowhere near being able to do that. Club finances are a tricky topic. Even if I understood it, I probably wouldn't add it to this app, as that would put me in direct competition with SI Games' own In-Game Editor.

Your best solution is to use HEX following the steps @NguyenDucAnh suggested in that other thread - but it is hard to do, so unless you have experience with HEX, you are best off looking for another solution, such as buying the In-Game Editor or unlocking Sugar Daddy/Generous Benefactor as @NguyenDucAnh suggested. 

In future editions, would it be possible to add import of a shortlist? 

When club reputation is low, it's a massive help to sort out not interested players (I know deals can be done even though a player doesn't seem interested, but still) 🙃

6 hours ago, Bendecks said:

In future editions, would it be possible to add import of a shortlist? 

When club reputation is low, it's a massive help to sort out not interested players (I know deals can be done even though a player doesn't seem interested, but still) 🙃

Yeah, I'm hoping to add some things around shortlists in future. At the moment you can only export the current search results as a shortlist to import into FMM. I want to make it so you can add players to a list in the app before exporting it (ie combine different searches, add individual players etc). And then I want to be able to open shortlist files from FMM and let you see them in the app, so it's a two way thing.

I'm not quite sure how that's going to work out due to the increased strictness with accessing the files. Still trying to work out how to access the save game file itself!! But hopefully I get that solved.

For now though, your best bet is to search for players in the app and export it to a shortlist to open in FMM and then see which ones are interested in there. There's a max of 1000 players you can export, so you might have to use the max salary or CA filters to get rid of players who won't realistically sign for you.