Honestly SI, this is Bu****it

[Nicolol]

 

AND THIS IS ONE OF VERY MANY EXAMPLES,

ps, there is almost twice as much, and this is in half a season of gametime

[Dec]

What is bullshit here? Plus can you name your title better and clarify the actual issue. Thanks.

 

All I see is your defence is leaking goals. What is your tactic? 

[slav]

what you hiding with paint?!

[leecutler]

It's not the tactic this happens to me game after game I have 25 shots they have 5 shots bit ends 1-1

[Dec]

3 minutes ago, leecutler said:

It's not the tactic this happens to me game after game I have 25 shots they have 5 shots bit ends 1-1

Sounds like your tactic to me. Yes it happens a bit too much to one team, but I find if it happens all the time then usually it is your tactics. This year I have been dominated and won. Be aware these games happen in real life and if you want them removed completely then you are mistaken. It happens nearly every week.

[skitch20]

That's a fact, no matter the tactic a clean sheet is like the loch ness monster... 

[leecutler]

Just now, Dec said:

Sounds like your tactic to me. Yes it happens a bit too much to one team, but I find if it happens all the time then usually it is your tactics. This year I have been dominated and won. Be aware these games happen in real life and if you want them removed completely then you are mistaken. It happens nearly every week.

Yeah it happens every week IRL but not for the same team week in week out, yes I understand that it will happen but when it's happening for 15 games a season can you honestly say that is realistic?

[Dec]

1 minute ago, leecutler said:

Yeah it happens every week IRL but not for the same team week in week out, yes I understand that it will happen but when it's happening for 15 games a season can you honestly say that is realistic?

No I agree with that, I am not saying it shouldn't happen but when it is extreme you have to look at your tactic too.

[leecutler]

Okay so I have a player that scores 3+ per game but for about 10-15 games a season I dominate weak teams with 20+ shots and ends 1-1?

I love the community and wouldn't intenially slander SI but this game is so far away from being realistic, 16 is so bad it's unreal.

Far to inconsistent on both enhanced and original 

Edited December 2, 2015 by leecutler

[slav]

I dont get the problem, stuff like this happens in real life regularly where teams get smashed all game but hold firm and nick a break away goal or have 2 shots and score both - its football and its random! 

Look at the weekend with the Everton Bournemouth game and all the late goals flying in, who would have predicted that.

Ive seen Sunderland twice score a hat trick of own goals and a few seasons ago Steven Fletcher's first 6 shots of the season all went in over about 5 or 6 games yet if that happens on FMM people are up in arms! 

Embrace the fact that its life like as football was, is and will always be a roller coaster for emotion! 

[Dec]

Just now, leecutler said:

Okay so I have a player that scores 3+ per game but for about 10-15 games a season I dominate weak teams with 20+ shots and ends 1-1?

I love the community and wouldn't intenially slander SI but this game is so far away from being realistic, 16 is so bad it's unreal.

For to consistent on both enhanced and original 

I agree it happens a bit too often as I said, but then look at your tactics. I think what will stop people moaning is if we can see where the shots are coming from. How many CCC's did you have? If you have INFs then they may choose to shoot from long range, this distorts stats. Maybe it needs a bit of a balance but I have had it both ways on 2016.

[UKFootballScore]

People just see stats and say they dominated a game

How do you know you dominated exactly? 

More shots? Not really domination 100% you can dominate a team and if they create a better chance than you and score thats just how it is 

 

[leecutler]

2 minutes ago, slav said:

I dont get the problem, stuff like this happens in real life regularly where teams get smashed all game but hold firm and nick a break away goal or have 2 shots and score both - its football and its random! 

Look at the weekend with the Everton Bournemouth game and all the late goals flying in, who would have predicted that.

Ive seen Sunderland twice score a hat trick of own goals and a few seasons ago Steven Fletcher's first 6 shots of the season all went in over about 5 or 6 games yet if that happens on FMM people are up in arms! 

Embrace the fact that its life like as football was, is and will always be a roller coaster for emotion! 

Yes it happens a lot but not continuously for the same team for like 10-15 games per season 

[leecutler]

1 minute ago, Dec said:

I agree it happens a bit too often as I said, but then look at your tactics. I think what will stop people moaning is if we can see where the shots are coming from. How many CCC's did you have? If you have INFs then they may choose to shoot from long range, this distorts stats. Maybe it needs a bit of a balance but I have had it both ways on 2016.

I don't play on enhanced so I don't get to see CCC, I don't play INF as I belive they don't do the job of that player role.

[slav]

1 minute ago, leecutler said:

Yes it happens a lot but not continuously for the same team for like 10-15 games per season 

but it is far more likely to happen to someone like madrid as they have the squad in place to dominate other teams but be hit on the break.

The game does as much as possible to replicate real life but essentially it is a load of algorithms with varying factors and results and it can only povide so many outcomes when the stats will be heavily weighted towards one winner

[leecutler]

1 minute ago, slav said:

but it is far more likely to happen to someone like madrid as they have the squad in place to dominate other teams but be hit on the break.

The game does as much as possible to replicate real life but essentially it is a load of algorithms with varying factors and results and it can only povide so many outcomes when the stats will be heavily weighted towards one winner

But are the stats really what's happening? Because when you watch the game it's a represtation of what's happening 

[UKFootballScore]

Ok I have an example here who would you guys say dominated this game?

[leecutler]

Just now, UKFootballScore said:

Ok I have an example here who would you guys say dominated this game?

You can't use that as a example as game was more or less even 

[slav]

3 minutes ago, leecutler said:

But are the stats really what's happening? Because when you watch the game it's a represtation of what's happening 

I would say so - Madrids stats are far better than those of the other teams above so you would expect the shots possession etc to be heavily weighted to them yet nothing is impossible about the opposition breaking away twice and scoring both times. Its certainly not unrealistic, maybe the frequency is slightly off but not massively in my eyes 

[nick2528]

if you think lots of shots means you should have lots of goals youve obviously never heard of tottenham hotspur

[leecutler]

So is this realistic to have so many shots but so little goals??

[UKFootballScore]

But my point is this mate I absolutely smashed them!

Below is the ratings of that game and the Dartford stats

I feel most would have said Dartford dominated that game due to more possession and more shots and more CCC's even though I had two 1one1's 

So look at Lee Noble 3 shots and none o target at all and from a player deep on the field, the DM position, says they were long range shots which they were

 all of my teams chances were from forwards as my 3 scorers were two strikers and a right winger

 

This is on EME so its easier to look at in this manner 

On OME you'll have more on target naturally but many will be easy saves or blocked shots if a team is defending 

For example how many of your 20 odd shots a game arent even highlight worthy on the OME? At least half if not more I had a game which finished 0-0 had 2 highlights and I had 15 shots and 12 on target or around that anyway 

[leecutler]

As much as I prefer the OME I can't keep playing with all these shots and minimal goals,like your stickers had most of the chances of that was on OME you would have had shots from players all over the pitch 

[slav]

7 minutes ago, leecutler said:

So is this realistic to have so many shots but so little goals??

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34577998 

does that match not look like Chelsea dominated Stoke? yet it finished 1-1 and Stoke won on pens  

[Dec]

The OME has a poacher wasting issue, is this the case for you? Also do you have a young striker. He may buckle under pressure.

[Alex Pitt]

Have you seen Arsenal play recently? West Brom scored two against them from only one shot on target the other week.

Are you playing with Attacking mentality? If you play Attacking you risk conceding higher quality chances on the counter attack because your defence will be pushed forward. It happens all the time to teams who play on the front foot and have lots of possession - they allow the opposition defence to get set and organised in front of their goal. Often they'll have a lot of shots but very few will be clear-cut chances because the opposition have so many players between the ball and the goal.

[leecutler]

Guys you all are quoting 1 game I have gave you examples of more than 1 game,my point is about 10-15 games per season with the same team and you are all going on about 1 result with 1 team.

Having just tested a few games on enhanced the results where massively different 

I played as Ajax and I had 6 shots on target and scored 4 goals and 1 CCC, so it seems like the enhanced engine is better in my eyes but the only thing stopping me is the speed although it is quick it is not as quick as OME 

[leecutler]

5 minutes ago, Alex Pitt said:

Have you seen Arsenal play recently? West Brom scored two against them from only one shot on target the other week.

Are you playing with Attacking mentality? If you play Attacking you risk conceding higher quality chances on the counter attack because your defence will be pushed forward. It happens all the time to teams who play on the front foot and have lots of possession - they allow the opposition defence to get set and organised in front of their goal. Often they'll have a lot of shots but very few will be clear-cut chances because the opposition have so many players between the ball and the goal.

I never play attacking I always play on balanced

[Alex Pitt]

There are many more examples. Here's another one: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34686457

[Alex Pitt]

And since you said one team, here's another recent one involving Arsenal: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34382802

EDIT: Sorry about the double post, I would delete this but I can't 

Edited December 2, 2015 by Alex Pitt