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Tactics Trimond 442/433 by gazroid

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There's my record and achievements using this set up. 1st two seasons in the PL we had 0 transfer funds and had to rely on loans, got some good loans out of Denis suarez and olivier ntcham and managed to finish 6th and 5th pretty much still with the championship squad. 3rd season we won the europa to qualify for CL and then the board woke up. Signed ousmane dembele for 49m and have been unstoppable in PL since. Couple of EFL cups and a couple of final defeats as well, once in the FA. CL I have dominated in the group stages but have had some very dodgey knockout defeats and not managed to get past the quarters yet.

I call it the trimond due to the 3 diamonds, they make the formation excellent for possession play and also fast counter attacking, here it is.

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It is well balanced between defense and attack and it could be seen as either a modified 442 or 433 I suppose. I've never tried but I don't see why it could not be mirrored so that the IF and WB is on the right instead to suit certain players/teams. The main bulk of your goals will come from the IF, kemal roofe scored 41 in his best season, 170 goals all together in 6 seasons and got multiple PL player of the year awards. Raheem sterling last season...

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The striker will grab a few goals as well but nowhere near as many. The AP is the creative force and will get most of the assists, Ross Barkley has got over 20 in both his first 2 seasons. I recommend using cms and cdms with high strength and stamina. I also recommend using a wing back style player for the wide midfield as they need to be able to defend as much as attack. Someone like dani alves or this guy...

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Instructions wise I start every match balanced. If I am winning by more than 1 goal I will switch to the defensive counter set up at half time, otherwise wait until around the hour mark, if you don't defend u will concede a lot of late goals. If the game is level or I am losing by only 1 goal I will wait till around 65-70 and switch to the attacking set up. Have had a few crazy comeback wins with this. Last few minutes will also switch counter attack off and turn men behind ball and long balls on to defend a lead.

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I think I've covered everything now, give it a go if you want.

Cheers.

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Looks amazing, but completely bonkers! I've experimented with a few asymmetrical tactics in the past but could never nail one down. I'll give this one a go at some point.

Thanks!

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👍 Yeah please do. It's really not bonkers at all in match, the team has a good shape.

its untested tho, this is the only save I've used it with long term and never tried lower league.

its on EME by the way. 

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I tried something similar with a second string team in a cup game (had a flat back 4) and it did not go well.  Hard to say if it was because my players weren't as good or because of the formation.  As a rule though, I try to keep my formations balanced unless specific player strengths warrant something different.

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I think without the wingback there is not much forward threat from the left. The IF will play as a striker much of the time, only stays wide when the opponent has possession. I think wing backs in a flat back 4 don't get forward as much as I'd like. 

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As a fellow Leeds fan I'm definitely giving this a go. I don't usually play EME but I really should.

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FMH calls it a 3-2-2-2-1 when you set it up.

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This really doesn't seem like it should work, but hey I'm not gonna doubt your methods. I got my own tactic going on right now in the 3-4-1-2 attacking, but I may have to try this

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Decided to give this a go in a different Country so I started as Parma.

 

I was having real problems any time I switched to the defensive setup in the suggested situations as I almost always conceded when doing so. I've found it's working much better just sticking to the base setup and going to the attacking one after an hour if the game is still 0-0. Or If the opposition score first I switch to the attacking setup straight away then switch back only if I level it and then go in front, doing that keeps the momentum going once you level to go and score again. It's working very well this way so far.

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Hmm I always seemed to concede if I left it on balanced that's why I switched defensive, whatever works for u tho, different quality of player maybe? 

Have u had any success managing Leeds? I've always struggled to keep them in the PL until this tactic.

just finished latest season 

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Rotated between these two IFs who both killed it but didn't get many goals elsewhere embolo only got 15 goals and sterling who had over 30 as IF last season only got 11 this season as the poacher. Won our first CL just shame about the FA cup final that would have been a clean sweep with that. Good season but the squad is unreal now so could win with any tactic probably. Will invest solely in defence this pre season and next season we will be unstoppable. 

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23 hours ago, gazroid27 said:

Hmm I always seemed to concede if I left it on balanced that's why I switched defensive, whatever works for u tho, different quality of player maybe? 

Have u had any success managing Leeds? I've always struggled to keep them in the PL until this tactic.

just finished latest season 

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Rotated between these two IFs who both killed it but didn't get many goals elsewhere embolo only got 15 goals and sterling who had over 30 as IF last season only got 11 this season as the poacher. Won our first CL just shame about the FA cup final that would have been a clean sweep with that. Good season but the squad is unreal now so could win with any tactic probably. Will invest solely in defence this pre season and next season we will be unstoppable. 

Had a lot of success with them on the OME but I want to start using the EME so that's why I'm giving your tactic a go with two different seasons. I'm doing one with Leeds and one with Parma and it's working well if I stay clear of using the defensive one as I mentioned. At Parma the goals are being shard around, but at Leeds it's mainly the IF like yours is. Early on with both seasons though so we'll see how it works out after more games.

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It's strange because most of the time I sneak more goals on the counter attack but that could be down to the quality of my forwards.

its also strange how my striker a lot of the time has more chances than the IF but doesn't score anywhere near as many goals. The striker misses a lot of one on ones every game. I'm putting that down to the games fault, poor AI maybe?

Im going to test the tactics out with another team, do you have any requests? Not sure if I should try lower leagues or just another country. 

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On 7/27/2017 at 07:35, gazroid27 said:

It's strange because most of the time I sneak more goals on the counter attack but that could be down to the quality of my forwards.

its also strange how my striker a lot of the time has more chances than the IF but doesn't score anywhere near as many goals. The striker misses a lot of one on ones every game. I'm putting that down to the games fault, poor AI maybe?

Im going to test the tactics out with another team, do you have any requests? Not sure if I should try lower leagues or just another country. 

I tried it with Parma and it was okay for a few months then went downhill fast.

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4 hours ago, MasonT827 said:

Just tried this and I'm honestly shocked it works so well

😃 it's still working wonders on my Leeds save and I was unbeaten in the league after 15 on a Chelsea 1k I started recently, ditched it due to a injury shocker tho.

BUUUUT the Parma test was a disaster. It would need tweaking for lower leagues I think. And it probably relies on having half decent players at least.

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18 hours ago, gazroid27 said:

😃 it's still working wonders on my Leeds save and I was unbeaten in the league after 15 on a Chelsea 1k I started recently, ditched it due to a injury shocker tho.

BUUUUT the Parma test was a disaster. It would need tweaking for lower leagues I think. And it probably relies on having half decent players at least.

I won north Ireland with it so I'm not sure 

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