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Article My Favourite Role on FMM - Deep Lying Playmaker

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3 hours ago, fuddledfoxFM said:

Thank you very much. I'm glad you enjoyed it. The feedback is appreciated as well and I will look to act on it. I was a little nervous about writing a tactical piece because I don't consider myself an expert and I wasn't sure if people would be interested. These types of articles I what I want to write for Vibe as they interest me and hopefully will interest others as well.

I to like the old fashioned style BWM but do you not feel that role is dying out in modern football with the laws on tackling being made stricter?. One thing I am going to try is a DLP in defensive midfield and then have a BWM alongside the AP in central midfield to try and press higher up the pitch and win the ball back closer to the opposition goal. Not sure if it will work but it will be interesting to try.

I'd say the role is just changing to where they need to be smarter positionally so they don't have to dive in as much as we are used to. Covering the space to force the opposition wide or to pass it backwards is as important, tbh last gasp tackling just means they've been beaten or are in the wrong position. 

Take Matic as a great example as his presence alone allows the other United CMs to be more adventurous and when he gets the ball he keeps it simple or drives forward. Just the act of roaming the space, blocking passing routes and making the tackles makes them a million times better. The same could be said for Spurs as Wanyama and Dier do a similar job in protecting the back line and winning the ball back which allows the wingbacks to bomb on. Then you have LFC who play similarly but opt for a DLP in Henderson which constantly see's our back two exposed as Hendo can be caught out positionally. Hendo is a fantastic presser and has loads of energy and passing range but he lacks the ball winning mentality/defensive awareness I wish we had. 

BWM vs DLP, CB vs BPD and GK vs SKP are all similar debates really as both have rewards and negatives. 

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3 hours ago, Ashez said:

BWM vs DLP, CB vs BPD and GK vs SKP are all similar debates really as both have rewards and negatives. 

There's my next 3 articles sorted ;)

 

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Kinda forgot to add my own little reply to this wonderful article, hope I'm not too late :)

In real life - perhaps because I've mostly covered defensive roles myself, always loved seeing an out and out LD at work. No-nonsense defenders, now that's a real man's role :) I can truly find beauty in a role that's meant to be played by "brutes". The rolled up sleeves, shin pads? Yeah right! perfectly timed tackles, oops, caught a bit of the opponent's meat..who cares! the hail marry attempts to stop a ball from passing the line, faking injuries? these players ignore 'em and tend to these after 90min only, if at all. I guess back then I played kinda like a mixture of football and rugby lol

Also really love BWMs and BBMs but in FMM as discussed already BWMs are no good unfortunately but I use the BBM quite regularly.

In FMM life - rarely use LDs tbh as I simply need a better passing game for better results. And more on topic - DLP - can't live without 'em in this game. I love using very att.minded formations so having a DLM/P in midfield for defensive cover to the back 3 or even back 2 :) is crucial. My favorite role in this year's FMM version tho is probably the IF since they're so deadly.

Another great read!

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6 minutes ago, BatiGoal said:

Kinda forgot to add my own little reply to this wonderful article, hope I'm not too late :)

Never to late for your thoughts mate(y)

Interesting thoughts on  LD. The last thing I think of with Dutch football is no nonsense style defenders. Sounds like your style of play would have fitted in well on the muddy parks here in England that I used to play on.

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I know this is a really old article but this position in particular has always amazed me in the way that it can dictate the tempo of the match without even "highlighting" that much, I wasn´t in the site when this was written (and other people too) so i would like to say thanks now that i´m here¿ anyways incredible @Foxy

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@Lautaro Bianchi I feel that DLPs in this year's version could get the work done, but they often get poor ratings (rarely above 6), so if you put young players in DLP they cannot develop well.  I prefer DMs or CMs.

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59 minutes ago, alfredykyk said:

@Lautaro Bianchi I feel that DLPs in this year's version could get the work done, but they often get poor ratings (rarely above 6), so if you put young players in DLP they cannot develop well.  I prefer DMs or CMs.

Yeah that's a shame, they don't part take that much in defense either (not like the roles you mentioned) so it feels kinda sad watching them perfom badly by sitting behind two midfieldiers doing nothing but passing the ball without that much of an objective tbh, that's why I lost all interest in trying to play the game like prime 4-3-3 Tiki-taka Barcelona where Busquets as a DLP performed on another level of course he did a lot more than just a normal DLP but i guess you get my point @alfredykyk

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I think @Foxy still swears by them now. I personally think the rating is a bit of an in-game glitch as when you analyse their stats - passes and tackles made, for example - they tend to still be excellent.

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I tend to avoid having a DLP anywhere in my tactics, my favourite midfield 3 would usually be AP-CM-BBM (from left to right) if I'm playing with a DM, I would always have him as a BWM, the game never seems to rate DLP's fairly, and my BWM's tend to offer a lot more defensively and they keep passes simple shifting the ball to my creative players further up the pitch. 

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