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FMM19 Ideas Series: Any Other Business


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Welcome to the fourth and final part of our FMM19 ideas series. Sorry for the delay but it maybe that I had forgotten we had actually written this about a month ago and it was only @Nucleus who reminded me today.

In this final part @Nucleus is going to discuss the new leagues he would like to see in next years game whilst I tackle Director’s of Football and @Ashez interviews me on my opinion on press conferences being added to FMM.

So without delay lets head over to the Vibe media centre.

 

Press conferences

@Ashez: Today I welcome the members of the press to Vibes first ever seminar, where the topic for today is ironically press conferences and interviews within the footballing world of FMM. Some people present today might be calling for these questionnaires to be added to the little management sim that could however the community also contains members against its inclusion. Today's speaker will be Mr Foxy as he aims to answer my questions and offer some thoughts on this fascinating subject, so without further ado welcome to the hot seat Foxy. 

 Foxy: Thank you for the opportunity to express my views on press conferences in FMM by making me do a press conference.

1.     Welcome and thanks again for attending this event, from my understanding you have a history in football manager correct? 

Foxy: I have played Football Manager and before that Championship Manager for 20+ years and I remember when press conferences were first introduced to the game and have since see them stagnate over the years.

2.     So with your back ground and time spent with the series how do you feel about press conferences, team talks?

Foxy: I personally hate press conferences as they are almost always the same questions but in a different order. You get a pick of 5 options and generally you can just keep pressing the same option for each question. You could say that mirrors real life as managers get asked the same kind of questions week after week but why would I want that in a game? It is a game and it should be fun and not an exercise in clicking the same answer to the same multiple choice question I was asked before the last game before I can get in the action. That isn’t a game being realistic it’s a game being boring!

Team talks are a different thing as I have always done them since they were introduced into the PC game. Yes you start to learn the best things to say in which situation and yes they are repetitive but I felt that they had an impact on how my team would perform in the game. In the PC game players have in match morale and body language which can change depending on the situation E.G. If you are playing a non-league team in the cup you may find your superstars are complacent going into the game and a team talk would focus there minds. That in game morale and body language would need to be added to FMM for team talks to serve any purpose in that version and I can’t imagine it will be added any time soon so any introduction of team talks would just be cosmetic. In the PC game on a match day it is all about getting the right balance of players, tactics and man management to give you the best chance of winning and if team talks were added to FMM then it would need to be the same.

3.     Interesting, it's also been made aware to me you've recently made the transition from FM to FMM, in this case how do you feel FMM copes without these key FM features? 

Foxy: I think that FMM has the right balance at the moment as we do get some press interaction if we want to answer those questions but they don’t crop up before every game and they are very unobtrusive to the game. As FMM is supposed to be a quick game to play any press conferences are just going to slow the game play down and for what? So we can answer a few questions we have heard a million times and have little to no impact on the actual team or game. 

4.     In your opinion what impact do such talks actually have in the full FM game? Are they vital like say tactics or an afterthought like FMM coaches? Are they actually worth the time and effort? Does FMM not having them really mean we're missing out?

Foxy: I would say they have very little impact on the game itself. You do get a little boost or reduction in morale or player happiness based on your answers but you soon learn the right and wrong answers, also winning games is the biggest boost in morale you can get and far outweighs the impact press conferences can ever have. I think the biggest sign they have no impact is that you can set your assistant manager to do them and still win games, promotions and trophies so if you can ignore a feature in a game is it really that important?

5. Simply fascinating, I suppose my final question is do you feel FMM should add these new features to the game? I'd love to hear your conclusions on the subject. 

 In a word no! Oh you want more than one word.

Foxy: Press conferences are a definite no for me for the reasons I said above but mainly because you are slowing down the game by adding a feature that some people think they want at the moment but after an hour or so of playing FMM19 they would be bored of and a feature that has very little impact on the game at that. I guarantee that if press conferences were added to the game Vibe would be full of comments from people moaning about a lack of variation in questions and that they no longer use the feature.

Team talks should only be added if they can have an impact on the match in some way so if you are losing giving your team a bollocking might produce a better performance in the 2nd half or warning your team to not be complacent against weaker opposition. If this was added it has to have an impact and that’s not to say that shouting at the team will always result in turning around a 2-0 deficit at half time or but simply that you feel it gives you some control over the match.

Well I think that covers the topic excellently and I think it's clear where Foxy sits on this subject. 

New Leagues

We already know that Germany will be licensed in FMM19 but will we see any new leagues added? @Nucleus discusses which leagues he would like to see added.

@Nucleus: As we move into FMM19, could SI keep up with the trend they set this year and add even more leagues into the game? This year saw the addition of the long awaited MLS and although it didn’t live up to its expectations due to not having the draft, it is still a welcome addition to the leagues currently available. Another addition this year was the South Korean league, and apart from challenges based there that we have here on Vibe who really wants to start a career over there? I certainly haven’tSo, which leagues would I like to be made playable in FMM 19? Well first off how about China? The Chinese Super League has rose to prominence in the last few years mainly due to the vast number of high-profile players that have made the move over there. Big names such as Belgiums Axel Witsel & Yannick Carrasco, Argentina’s Javier Mascherano & Nicolás Gaitán and Brazil’s Ramires, Hulk & Oscar have all made the move over to the Far East for hefty transfer sums and of course a hefty pay packet. The most interesting factor about managing in China in FMM19 would be the transfer budgets, there’s no doubt the Chinese are building something big over there and trying to put the final pieces together would make for an interesting save. 

Secondly, we’ve been crying out for a secondary league in the Portugal/Scotland mould for years. So where better to go than to the southern most country in Europe, Greece. With some historic teams such as Olympiacos and Panathinaikos whilst not forgetting this season’s league champions AEK Athens, Greece would offer a solid option for some fantastic career opportunities and could open up the door for a host of new challenges. The Vibe Olympics could solely be competed there for example.

Which leagues would you like to see added in FMM19? Let us know in the comments below

 

Directors of Football

Foxy: In the UK we usually refer to the man in charge of a football team as the manager of the team. This stems back to the days when the manager would manage all aspects of the football team from buying players, negotiating contracts, taking training and of setting tactics and picking the team on match days. These days manager aren’t really managers any more and many clubs especially at the top level have a head coach instead of a manager who deals with training, tactics etc whilst also having a director of football (DoF) and a chief executive to take care of transfers and contracts. The head coach may suggest the players he would like to bring in to the club but he will have little to do with the fee paid and the contract that player gets. Then in other cases such as Chelsea the head coach seems to have very little say in which players are brought into the club, he is simply given a squad of players and told to win everything. Its this set up which seems to have led to the situation at Chelsea were Conti has fallen out with the powers that be at the club and looks like he will soon leave.

So how does this fit into FMM? I would like to see the option brought in that we could employ a DoF at the club we manage although unlike at Chelsea I think it should be us as the manager that chooses who that man should be or if we even have one. Once we have a DoF employed we could then ask them to run certain parts of the club for example you could ask them to run the scouting staff and set them assignments, perhaps he could deal with all contract negotiations or you could tell him you want a left back and he would go out a find you one. That could perhaps be done by you creating a shortlist of players as a real life manager would do or you could simply set the parameters like you do on the player search but ultimately you would have the final say in whether you sign him or not.  In the PC community there is a challenge called the DoF challenge were you set your DoF to run all aspects of the club except for training and match day. So he signs all the players, you can recommend players to him or ask for a player for a certain position but there is no guarantees you will get what you want with the AI being as it is. He also hires and fires all the backroom staff and deals with contracts. You are left with training and match day so it tests your ability to work with what you have and get the best out of the players you are given. If we had DoF’s in FMM we could also do this challenge.

Ultimately it should be our choice whether we have a DoF and if we do what we ask him to do for us but it would be great to have that option available.

I would like to thank @Nucleus and @Ashez for their help with this series both on this article and the ones they published on their own. If you haven’t read the whole series yet you can find the other three articles by clicking these links.

Article One: Backroom Staff

Article Two: Set Pieces

Article Three: New player Roles

It would be great to get your comments below on these subjects or any other features you would like to see in FMM19.

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Great read and very happy that Germany are officially licenced for Fmm19, South America for me I'd love to see Argentine league, Boca juniors,  River plate and loads of young argentine players, think the South Korean league was a waste of time like you said would anyone actually use it, possibly Danish or Swedish league also would have more appeal than South Korean league, I've a funny feeling it will be the Russian league that's added thou

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Cracking read mate. Personally don't agree with the part about the DoF as I feel a manager, especially in FMM, should have to run every aspect of the club. 

Would love to see the Chinese and Greek Leagues added. I think SI should add the Danish league seeing as it is already licensed. Gibraltar is also licensed, if SI wanted to go there. It has been done in FM and would definitely be a welcome addition to the game. However, I doubt they will prioritise Gibraltar over bigger leagues. It would be nice to be able to play there though, even if it was a DLC or something. 

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2 hours ago, ManLikeRobbieBrady said:

even if it was a DLC or something.

Don’t give them any ideas! 😂

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1 hour ago, Nucleus said:

Don’t give them any ideas! 😂

I doubt they would cost much 😂 

This is SI not EA mate we'll be fine.

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I really enjoyed reading this. I to do not wish to see press conferences as such however I would like to see more pre match build up if it's a must win game or a derby.

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If they add the Greek league, will they also add random events such as club bosses invading the pitch carrying a gun leading to the club being penalised? eg demoted, transfer banned etc. That would certainly add a new dimension to play.

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Great article guys! And very interesting perspectives. 

I wouldn't mind seeing a half time team talk as long as it's done right (sometimes bollocking your team will get you the win, sometimes destroy team morale or get some players to dislike you). It would have to be something you do occasionally rather than every game - a bit like the morale thing now, where it's not in your face, but where you can go use if you want, but it doesn't always have the intended effect.

For new leagues, China is the obvious one for me, but the Greek one would be fascinating too - some great clubs there. Not sure how their finances are these days, but if they are weak I guess that would make it even more fascinating... Imagine taking Panathinaikos to Champions League success!

The DOF one is also fascinating, as long as it was a start save option. If it was on, I'd actually like to see it be a little random. Some clubs have them, some don't, like in real life. In some clubs the manager has more say than in others, etc. I guess that's over-complicated and unlikely though. Actually I'd quite like a challenge where you start off with very little say, but as you become more successful you can start wresting control back from the DOF.

Anyway, great write up and very thought provoking. 

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18 minutes ago, scratch99 said:

Great article guys! And very interesting perspectives. 

I wouldn't mind seeing a half time team talk as long as it's done right (sometimes bollocking your team will get you the win, sometimes destroy team morale or get some players to dislike you). It would have to be something you do occasionally rather than every game - a bit like the morale thing now, where it's not in your face, but where you can go use if you want, but it doesn't always have the intended effect.

For new leagues, China is the obvious one for me, but the Greek one would be fascinating too - some great clubs there. Not sure how their finances are these days, but if they are weak I guess that would make it even more fascinating... Imagine taking Panathinaikos to Champions League success!

The DOF one is also fascinating, as long as it was a start save option. If it was on, I'd actually like to see it be a little random. Some clubs have them, some don't, like in real life. In some clubs the manager has more say than in others, etc. I guess that's over-complicated and unlikely though. Actually I'd quite like a challenge where you start off with very little say, but as you become more successful you can start wresting control back from the DOF.

Anyway, great write up and very thought provoking. 

We actually discussed a lot more leagues e.g Mexican, Swiss, Ukraine but settled on these two for the article. The more leagues the better at the end of the day

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25 minutes ago, Nucleus said:

We actually discussed a lot more leagues e.g Mexican, Swiss, Ukraine but settled on these two for the article. The more leagues the better at the end of the day

Actually I just realised what I really really really want and it's not more leagues - it's the same leagues, but with old databases.... ie rewind 10 years or 20 years as the starting point. It'll never happen due to licensing issues and technical issues (the historic databases they have won't be complete for all leagues in the game and they won't contain all the fields / attributes / other stuff that the current game has), but man I'd Iove that.

To be able to play the Newcastle 96 team... 

Failing that, yeah, the more leagues the better! 🙂

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2 hours ago, scratch99 said:

Actually I just realised what I really really really want and it's not more leagues - it's the same leagues, but with old databases.... ie rewind 10 years or 20 years as the starting point. It'll never happen due to licensing issues and technical issues (the historic databases they have won't be complete for all leagues in the game and they won't contain all the fields / attributes / other stuff that the current game has), but man I'd Iove that.

To be able to play the Newcastle 96 team... 

Failing that, yeah, the more leagues the better! 🙂

Oh this would be class, 70's liverpool, 90's united that would be ace

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2 hours ago, scratch99 said:

Actually I just realised what I really really really want and it's not more leagues - it's the same leagues, but with old databases.... ie rewind 10 years or 20 years as the starting point. It'll never happen due to licensing issues and technical issues (the historic databases they have won't be complete for all leagues in the game and they won't contain all the fields / attributes / other stuff that the current game has), but man I'd Iove that.

To be able to play the Newcastle 96 team... 

Failing that, yeah, the more leagues the better! 🙂

I think that's why they added Myclub tbh, however that feature is a completely flawed waste of space with no options and is deliberately shit to force through IGE sales imo. 

Imagine if Myclub was expanded to MyLeagues or MyDatabase or hell imagine if MyClub was easy to use and worthwhile. 

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I  would like to see the DOF and I'd be playing probably with the option turned on most of the time as it's more realistic 

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18 hours ago, Ashez said:

I think that's why they added Myclub tbh, however that feature is a completely flawed waste of space with no options and is deliberately shit to force through IGE sales imo. 

Imagine if Myclub was expanded to MyLeagues or MyDatabase or hell imagine if MyClub was easy to use and worthwhile. 

Yeah, I never use MyClub.

I don't want to manually add all the players I want to my team and then pit that team against the modern world. I want SI Games to dust off the shelf, find the CD with the CM01/02 database on it and port that into FMM 2019. You could start with a real team and then sign the best players of the day. 

The problem is that even if there weren't the likely licensing issues, the old databases they have wouldn't match up to the current database structure and it would probably be a bucket load of work to port them across. But just imagine if they did! 

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23 hours ago, scratch99 said:

Actually I just realised what I really really really want and it's not more leagues - it's the same leagues, but with old databases.... ie rewind 10 years or 20 years as the starting point. It'll never happen due to licensing issues and technical issues (the historic databases they have won't be complete for all leagues in the game and they won't contain all the fields / attributes / other stuff that the current game has), but man I'd Iove that.

To be able to play the Newcastle 96 team... 

Failing that, yeah, the more leagues the better! 🙂

Awww that would be dreamlike. However database size would become massive. I’d say this is the sort of additional content most of us would be happy to buy.I suspect they could come up with a system that allows you to purchase a separate add on that could switch databases in and out if they want to.

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52 minutes ago, Rob2017 said:

Awww that would be dreamlike. However database size would become massive. I’d say this is the sort of additional content most of us would be happy to buy.I suspect they could come up with a system that allows you to purchase a separate add on that could switch databases in and out if they want to.

Yeah, I'd be quite happy to pay for that sort of content. Maybe it can be an in game purchase for each extra db you want and it downloads it from the server. Then any you'd purchased / downloaded would just need to be listed in the db selector (where you choose from the original db and the mid season update).

I think I'd do a 1KC with Robbie Fowler... Or Mark Viduka!  

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32 minutes ago, scratch99 said:

Yeah, I'd be quite happy to pay for that sort of content. Maybe it can be an in game purchase for each extra db you want and it downloads it from the server. Then any you'd purchased / downloaded would just need to be listed in the db selector (where you choose from the original db and the mid season update).

I think I'd do a 1KC with Robbie Fowler... Or Mark Viduka!  

Sounds perfect. Should just be a database conversion plus additional fields, but it’d only need doing once and then can be used  in all future versions.

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I'm somewhat agreeing yet disagreeing at the same time, I agree the feature would be fantastic however I'd ticked off if that got development time over the standard game. 

I actually think this type of stuff is dependant on the community and not the developers but SI should give us a feature to make such things possible. The IGE and Myclub are half arsed efforts but with a full blown PC editor like Vibe used to produce we could make these things a reality. 

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I love the idea of dusting off old databases. In fact Ive been advocating that for years. Im still in 2 minds about buying 2019 but would def do so if this was a feature.

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I'd like a feature that allows you to see how a player's stats and traits have changed in the past 6 or 12 months and maybe advice from your assistant on what training to focus on to improves certain stat or trait

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12 minutes ago, Iknfjr said:

Can we actually control under teams (u18, u19, u20). It would be way better.

Just out of interest, what sort of control would you want over them?

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Like be able to see matches they play in and promote people through. Like you will be able to arrange matches.Eg Premier League 2 and u18/19/20 friendlies between teams. Also PL teams can enter a u23 squad into the checkatrade trophy

 

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For example, I only need the Russian League and buy the game only for the developers to pay attention to us. If they can not make a lot of leagues, then at least let the editor make or buy separately the necessary leagues. Ready to pay if only a normal product was

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