Tactics 4321 (Possibly Stolen Tactic)

[DutchTony]

Hi guys

I've had a few people ask me to share this tactic.

@Plimmerz92

@Wernos

@panjalakuruchi

This was 1 of my 4 saved tactics from last year but I don't remember using it if I'm honest. Maybe I did try it and it didn't work very well so I didn't use it again. This year after buying the game I tried my 4 saved tactics from last year and this was really good. 

I don't know where it came from either so it's quite possibly someone else's tactic.

Without further ado.

Test 1

Test 2

As you can see test 2 had less goals scored and less conceded. Makes sense though as I significantly improved my defence whilst trying to use my youngster Rhian Brewster up front when I felt I could get away with it. And I also tried to sub him on around 65 minutes if he didn't start.

I won Manager of the month every month in test 1

My favourite 2 screen shots coming up. Here you can see Trent's assists from right back

Rhian Brewster before and after in test 2

Finally the champions league final

 

[panjalakuruchi]

11 minutes ago, DutchTony said:

Hi guys

I've had a few people ask me to share this tactic.

@Plimmerz92

@Wernos

@panjalakuruchi

This was 1 of my 4 saved tactics from last year but I don't remember using it if I'm honest. Maybe I did try it and it didn't work very well so I didn't use it again. This year after buying the game I tried my 4 saved tactics from last year and this was really good. 

I don't know where it came from either so it's quite possibly someone else's tactic.

Without further ado.

Test 1

Test 2

As you can see test 2 had less goals scored and less conceded. Makes sense though as I significantly improved my defence whilst trying to use my youngster Rhian Brewster up front when I felt I could get away with it. And I also tried to sub him on around 65 minutes if he didn't start.

I won Manager of the month every month in test 1

My favourite 2 screen shots coming up. Here you can see Trent's assists from right back

Rhian Brewster before and after in test 2

Finally the champions league final

Thanks so much sir.. will try to use this.. nice tactic title.. hahaha

[AndersJ]

Thank you for sharing  Did you retrain Brewster several times or did you only train him in intensive without retraining him in his position over and over?

[Schwantz34]

Brewster was lethal for me last year on a few different saves, each time on loan.

[Wernos]

its looking so good  thanks mate!

[DutchTony]

40 minutes ago, AndersJ said:

Thank you for sharing  Did you retrain Brewster several times or did you only train him in intensive without retraining him in his position over and over?

I train everyone on intensive and retrain everyone to as many different positions as they can muster. 

Here's Trent for example

Natural in 2 positions 

Natural in 5 positions 

[DutchTony]

40 minutes ago, Schwantz34 said:

Brewster was lethal for me last year on a few different saves, each time on loan.

This is the first time I've used him. Can't wait to run the 2nd season now as he'll be competing with Firmino up front.

Edited November 26, 2019 by DutchTony

[panjalakuruchi]

41 minutes ago, DutchTony said:

I train everyone on intensive and retrain everyone to as many different positions as they can muster. 

Here's Trent for example

Natural in 2 positions 

Natural in 5 positions 

How do you train someone on intensive?

[panjalakuruchi]

I meant was will there be a lot of injuries? 

[DutchTony]

6 minutes ago, panjalakuruchi said:

I meant was will there be a lot of injuries? 

I did get a few injuries but none were too bad. A couple of my reserves were out for 3 months as well if I remember correctly. 

[lforlalaland]

Do you train your players to fit in that specific role (i.e. put them to WB if they are naturally on FB as a recommended position?) or you must leave them to be what they are at but train them according to the required stats for the role? 

[Chris]

What's the goal spread like between the front 3?

[DutchTony]

45 minutes ago, lforlalaland said:

Do you train your players to fit in that specific role (i.e. put them to WB if they are naturally on FB as a recommended position?) or you must leave them to be what they are at but train them according to the required stats for the role? 

I train a player for the position I want them to play. So if I have a left footed AML, I will retrain him to play on the right. Then I will just retrain him to play as a striker and AMC as well if he can. 

[Lav50]

This looks very good 👍 also that progress Trent made in relatively short amount of time is 😲

[Davies23]

Has this been tested in the lower leagues? I'm going to give it a try with forest green rovers

[Alice in Hangeland]

Don't mean to be "that" guy but I imagine quite a lot of tactics would succeed with Liverpool's mega squad, even if you only played 10 men every game! 

 

Be interesting to see if this works for lower teams or if it's a tactic for super teams. 

Currently playing as Fiorentina so will switch to it now and report back. Awesome work mate 👍

[DutchTony]

6 minutes ago, Davies23 said:

Has this been tested in the lower leagues? I'm going to give it a try with forest green rovers

I don't play lower leagues. Let us know how you get on.

[DutchTony]

1 hour ago, itzChris92 said:

What's the goal spread like between the front 3?

Firmino was the main man but Mane and Salah got around 15 or so goals each as well. 

[DutchTony]

7 minutes ago, Alice in Hangeland said:

Don't mean to be "that" guy but I imagine quite a lot of tactics would succeed with Liverpool's mega squad, even if you only played 10 men every game! 

 

Don't worry mate, there's always 1 😜

Seriously though, like I said before I tried 4 tactics with Liverpool. the first 3 tactics I tried varied between being a bit rubbish - to bloody awful. This one was like a really nice surprise though. I also tried another tactic which has been posted on here for this years game. I tried it for 10 games or so and it didn't work for me. Let us know how you get on with Fiorentina anyway ☺️

[lforlalaland]

9 hours ago, DutchTony said:

I train a player for the position I want them to play. So if I have a left footed AML, I will retrain him to play on the right. Then I will just retrain him to play as a striker and AMC as well if he can. 

Hi DT I think you misunderstood my previous questions hahaha. I was wondering if you train/set a player role specifically to match the tactic (for example Jean-Clair Todibo is recommended as a no-nonsense center back but you train him as a CD in this case.) Does it affect anything at all based on your observations or nah? Thanks! 

[Titchy86]

@DutchTonyyou sir are a legend! What a fantastic tactic. Been struggling to find a worldy tactic, and just been doing ok with others, and struggling to score goals. As soon as I found this tactic I started banging goals in and getting the best out of my players! I always use left footed players on right wing and right footed wingers on the left do you go with this too? And do you think thos tactic will be as good as your 3 at the back 1 last year? That 1 was the best I've ever used. 👍👍

[DutchTony]

7 minutes ago, Titchy86 said:

@DutchTonyyou sir are a legend! What a fantastic tactic. Been struggling to find a worldy tactic, and just been doing ok with others, and struggling to score goals. As soon as I found this tactic I started banging goals in and getting the best out of my players! I always use left footed players on right wing and right footed wingers on the left do you go with this too? And do you think thos tactic will be as good as your 3 at the back 1 last year? That 1 was the best I've ever used. 👍👍

Thanks mate. Glad it's working well for you. 

Yes my IFL is right footed and vice versa.

I'm currently testing with Tottenham. This time with medium training. No retraining, and no transfers in or out. I'll post up the outcome later but so far still working really well. 

[BatiGoal]

I don't often venture in tactic threads anymore but this one's receiving a lot of praise. I'll test it once my current career is over.

Looks good at first glance, I have a quite similar one but with the IFs on the same line as the striker. 

[broodje kip]

Not a fan of tactics thread but yours looks good maybe I’ll try soon

[mareno]

Stolen?😉Pretty like my tacktic for last years FM. But the headline was funny Its allright that the tacktic comes to live again, Tnx! but credit to me is nice @DutchTony Its a good tacktic

[DutchTony]

28 minutes ago, mareno said:

Stolen?😉Pretty like my tacktic for last years FM. But the headline was funny Its allright that the tacktic comes to live again, Tnx! but credit to me is nice @DutchTony Its a good tacktic

See I was right - it was stolen 😁

I would say this year it works even better than last year because I would have used it more last year if I had got these results. 

Well done sir

[mareno]

6 minutes ago, DutchTony said:

See I was right - it was stolen 😁

I would say this year it works even better than last year because I would have used it more last year if I had got these results. 

Well done sir

Shitt happens, cant know and remember everything!

The tacktic worked greate last year also before an update ruined it... and you are right, this year it is amazing again!

[DutchTony]

A quick test with Tottenham

4 hours ago, DutchTony said:

m currently testing with Tottenham. This time with medium training. No retraining, and no transfers in or out. I'll post up the outcome later but so far still working really well. 

Here's the result. Half a season played. 

No intensive training. No retraining. No transfers. I also played the 3 most difficult games of the season. Man City, Man Utd, and Liverpool all AWAY. 

This was the main team I used

Normally I would never use Dele as an IF but he was the best option available. Also Son on the right was not natural.

Of course with transfers it would have been even better. 

 

Edited November 27, 2019 by DutchTony

[panjalakuruchi]

DT do u have 2 teams like Team A and Team B.. after 1 game my players are tired..

[DutchTony]

1 hour ago, panjalakuruchi said:

DT do u have 2 teams like Team A and Team B.. after 1 game my players are tired..

Yes mate. My team A will play all Premier league away games, potentially tricky Premier league home games, and the latter stages of champions league. My B team will be easy home games and cup games. I just judge and plan it a few games in advance.