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Career The Triple Race to 100 - Seasons 13 to 15


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The Future of the Save

I had intended this save to be a test of my tactics ready for a TT but if truth be told I finished this save about a week or so ago and since then I have tried about 4 different ideas for a TT and nothing has stuck. I have been getting the goals I need from the trios I have tried but the saves just haven’t “turned me on”.

Writing up the final update for Cochrane it gave me the desire to load this save up and again and play it as I think 4 seasons in things are starting to get interesting with the team in Europe as we get more competitive.

I aim to complete three challenges in this save.

The challenges are.

The Assists Triple Threat

I will keep the players I will be using for this to myself for now simply because they could change over the next few seasons as the squad gets better although the striker will definitely be Hamilton as he is well on his way with getting the 103 assists needed for the striker part of the challenge.

The second challenge is.

The Manager 1kc

This is a challenge I created where we need to get the clubs we manage 1000 goals as quickly as possible and with the best goal difference as well. I am already over half way to 1000 goals so I should get to the magic total but I hope I can improve my current GD (352 atm) and GpG (2.50 atm) significantly before then

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The 3rd challenge is obviously.

The Triple Threat

The main one and one I want the most is the Triple Threat so that 1500 goals from three players. The reason for this desire is that I have completed 3 1kc’s in the last couple of years and a Double Trouble as well so a TT is the final challenge I need to get in the Triple Crown hall of fame.

I have made a good start with Hamilton, Lyon and Cochrane getting 348 goals in the first four seasons which works out as 87 goals a season. They are over 20 now so hopefully they will increase there goal rate and also I can now focus on Hamilton as my main goalscorer again as he is the best of the three.

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Hamilton was a stumbling bloke in my aims as he was desperate to leave the club and I did consider leaving and taking the trio else where but I think Lyon and Cochrane are best suited in Wales to get goals.

Luckily I remembered we can now talk to players that want to leave so I dragged him in the office and threatened to break his legs if he leaves and it seems to have done the job as he signed a new 5 year deal at a lot less per week than he was asking before.

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I’m sure he will moan again soon enough but I have him for 5 more years and the club should be better placed by then to offer him much improved terms to carry on with us.

So here is a reminder of the three lads and how they look at the start of season 5.

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I won’t be doing season updates but instead updating as I complete (or fail) each challenge. I expect the updates will be in this order.

  • Manager 1kc
  • Assists Triple Threat
  • Triple Threat

Obviously that could change though if significant events occur like a player leaving or if I need to move clubs to carry on my main priority of the TT.

Thanks for reading

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Glad you are carrying on with this Foxy, will be super interesting to see these challenges done in a 'lesser' league. Must be fun! You can even get away with intimidating players there! Old school football...

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Thank you for your comments @Cockers2505 and @Scratch :)

Seasons 5 - 7 Update - Managers 1kc Challenge

As I said in my last post I will be updating multiple seasons at a time as I complete the challenges I am after as on a season by season basis there isn’t so much going on.

First up we will start with some....

News

Very little significant happened in seasons 5 and 6 but then it all happened in season 7 due to this message.

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I wasn’t expecting it as I have already completed a long save and thought I must have unlocked SD but then when I thought back to my Augusta save I couldn’t actually remember getting it or using it at any point so maybe not :S

Either way it had some positive effects on the club which you can see under this spoiler.

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The first thing I tried to do was improve the training facilities but the board weren’t having any of it even with our new wealth.

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Both my training and youth facilities are already good prior to the SD coming in as I had invested in that area early on with what budget I had but it would have been good to push it further.

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The next thing I did was to tie down Hamilton onto a new 5 year deal as he was again desperate to move on but it’s funny how some new found wealth can make a difference. He still had three seasons left on his contract so I only actually gained 2 more for now but the bigger contract has kept him happier.

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As they wouldn’t spend some money on facilities I had nearly £4m in transfer budget burning a hole in my pocket so it would have been rude not to spend some of it. I thought about doing what Spurs did when they sold Bale and just spaffing the money all over the place on players but instead I just bought one young player who I felt could develop over the next couple of seasons and become my midfield general.

Luuk De Lang doesn’t look much at the moment but for Wales he is amazing already and he has promise that he could develop a bit and be a strong player for me.

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When SD kicked in I had actually sold more players in value than I had bought but the De Lang signing changed that.

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I had been begging the board to expand the 3000 capacity stadium for ages and they kept refusing but that was obviously as they had a new stadium planned.

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Competitions

It will come as no surprise that we continue to dominate in Welsh football as we had two unbeaten league seasons although we did manage to not win the Welsh Cup in season 6 ad we got knocked out on penalties.

The Tunnocks Wafer cup did continue to allude me until season 7 when I finally managed to lift the coveted trophy. I was genuinely chuffed with this as I had been getting frustrated at not doing anything in this cup and getting knocked out by average teams that were no better than teams I managed to beat in Europe.
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In Europe it was a mixed bag as well and for the three seasons I was in all three different competitions. In season 6 I ended up in the Euro 2 competition and felt I could challenge for it only to draw Leipzig in R2 and go out. Season 7 I was in the CL and it was a group stage defeat just like in Season 4.

My best European performance came all the way back in Season 5 though when I had a run to the Semi Finals of the Europa League and only lost 1-0 on aggregate to Monaco.

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Season by Season Competition Record

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Manager 1kc

The first of the three challenges I am attempting was completed in season 7 with the Manager 1kc.

I hit my 1000th goal as a manager in late January of Season 7 away at Undy with Hamilton fittingly getting the goal as he has been my most prolific striker.

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That works out as a GpG rate of 2.57 and a GD of 674.

Both totals are towards the bottom of the leaderboards which initially disappointed me when I checked. Then when I think about it the top score on there tend to be in China were there is the spending power to bring in quality players in a league with players as bad as Wales or at big clubs when again the spending power is there.

I was hampered by never being able to dominate in Europe so many of the games I have won there have been by narrow margins and then in group stages I haven’t scored lots of goals so there is good reasons for those lower numbers.

Either way it’s nice to be on the board and who knows maybe I will improve my numbers in another save this year.

Triple Threat Assists Challenge

In my last update I didn’t reveal the players I would be using for this challenge and that was because I didn’t have a midfielder yet for that part of the challenge but that has changed.

I made good progress on this challenge during these three seasons and both my defender and striker have hit there targets.

Defender - Target of 53 assists

George Tanner is my assisting defender for this challenge.

He joined on a free at getting end of season 1 and has been a monster at RWB ever since. He takes a mean corner at least by Welsh standards and that has helped him to smash the 53 assists target for the challenge and keep going as well.

He had 4 assists when he joined so he currently sits on 84 assists for me.

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Midfielder - Target of 162 Assists

I was waiting for a decent midfielder option and it took me 5 seasons to find him. I had to go to the “Carpet Town of Great Britain” to sign an assist king.

I initially though Archer was a Regen but looking at his history he actually isn’t which pleased me and for the £200k I paid for him he is looking like a good buy. Again he had some assists when he joined so 20 has to be taken off of his career total to get his challenge total. 

That means he has 49 assists so far and needs another 113 to hit his target.

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Striker - Target of 103 Assists

Hamilton is both my top goalscorer and my best assister up front and just like Tanner he surpassed his total during this time as well. Considering the numbers of goals he gets and the fact he isn’t a designated corner taker I am impressed that he has reached double figures for assists in 6 of the 7 seasons so far.

All his assists in his career have been for me so his total of 110 is enough to beat the 103 needed.

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Triple Threat

This is the challenge I most want to complete and the one that will take the longest.

Over these three seasons though my trio made huge progress as they hit over 100 goals in all three seasons. This is helped by the fact that Hamilton is now back in the main goalscoring position and he is a machine at this level of football.

If they continue to score at around 120 goals a season they will have the TT completed in just under 7 more seasons which would be perfect as the lads would all be early 30 and if I still have the motivation I can keep going and build on the total.

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The three lads have developed well and are probably as good as they will ever get at least playing in Wales and all three and very much contributing to the challenge so I can’t ask for more I don’t think.

Player Attributes and Stats

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My next update will probably be if and when I complete the TT assists challenge so at Archers current assists rate in about 4 more seasons. I hope you have enjoyed this style of update and been able to follow it well as it seems a better way to do it than season by season or at least to me it does.

Thanks for reading.

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3 hours ago, Foxy said:

 

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Some progress Fox, great job 👍 gorgeous greens on the physical attr. Do you use him as a TM? Would be nice if his Decisions turns blue. 

Great progress with the challenges. 

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7 hours ago, BatiGoal said:

Some progress Fox, great job 👍 gorgeous greens on the physical attr. Do you use him as a TM? Would be nice if his Decisions turns blue. 

Great progress with the challenges. 

Having myself and another coach on fitness has paid off for all the players tbh.

Yes Hamilton plays as a TM in the centre and then Lyon and Cochrane are AF’s either side of him and it seems to be working. The TM in the middle definitely scores the most goals and it is the role all three of them played in when I was trying to get each of them to 100 goals in your challenge.

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Doing well with all of your challenges. I’ve also found having two fitness coaches to be good but unlike last year the third doesn’t seem to offer any added boast so I just like you stick to two.

Just need to keep going now and the fact that it’ll always be a challenge in Europe will make it a nice save to play I’m guessing.

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On 05/04/2020 at 10:23, Rob said:

Utterly nailing it still

Cheers Rob.

On 05/04/2020 at 21:22, Ian said:

challenge in Europe

Europe is a weird one for me as once I go out if Europe and it is just one game a week my trio just smash goals in for fun but early in the season they get tired and the team needs switching about which leads to less goals from them. In all honesty I could probably complete the TT and other challenges without Europe.

On the other hand it does help my reputation as a club which leads to a better team overall. It has also stopped a few players leaving as I have just had with Tanner who turned down Swindon, Wolves and Hull specifically because he wants to play in European football.

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10 hours ago, Foxy said:

Europe is a weird one for me as once I go out if Europe and it is just one game a week my trio just smash goals in for fun but early in the season they get tired and the team needs switching about which leads to less goals from them. In all honesty I could probably complete the TT and other challenges without Europe.

100% on this. SI’s tweak to the conditioning has meant that sometimes you don’t mind losing so your boys can play longer in easier games. I’ve taken to playing some ringers in some cup games and then genuinely getting irritated that we grab a last minute winner.

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Going great foxy!

Fully agree with what you and rob say, sometimes it’s a relief to get knocked out of a competition just so you can let your guys play the full 90 more often. 

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On 06/04/2020 at 23:38, Foxy said:

Cheers Rob.

Europe is a weird one for me as once I go out if Europe and it is just one game a week my trio just smash goals in for fun but early in the season they get tired and the team needs switching about which leads to less goals from them. In all honesty I could probably complete the TT and other challenges without Europe.

On the other hand it does help my reputation as a club which leads to a better team overall. It has also stopped a few players leaving as I have just had with Tanner who turned down Swindon, Wolves and Hull specifically because he wants to play in European football.

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You're doing with TNS, I can't play in a team with world stars, I'm going crazy :)))

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@smoggy90 and @cakirmertt28 thanks for the comments.

Seasons 8 - 12 Update - The Triple Threat Assists Challenge

I don’t think I have ever played FMM seasons as quickly with the three seasons being smashed out in the last three day as if there is nothing much better to do 🙄

News

There isn’t much to report this update as the club had kept on ticking along with just one more upgrade of facilities in the last few seasons although no should really consider asking again as we have the cash to get to max on both youth and training facilities now I would imagine.

One thing that has been happening is we have been building up plenty of cash at least for the size of club. This is because the club has reached a stage we’re I can’t improve a lot of the players without spending serious money and also I have my three goal scorers and my TT assisters as well that can’t be changed so that’s half the first XI basically. Most summers someone will have a big come in for them and I will either upgrade there contract if I need/want to keep them or I will let them go. I then go and look for a replacement which is often a young player who’s contract has run out at a English club and the cycle goes again. I am also pumping out enough players from my youth team to keep us going as well with some good players leaving as they just wouldn’t get a game.

This has led to a situation were I am actually in a profit for my career in terms of transfers.

This is the situation at the end of season 12 although Youth Policy and discipline must be broken as my squad is an average age of 23 and I fine every misdeed.

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I’m not sure many 1kc/DT/TT challenges have ever been finished with a transfer profit so although I could just go out and splash the money on anybody I can get I have decided I will maintain a profit for at least the until I hit the TT.

Triple Threat Assists Challenge

In my last update I showed that Tanner my defender and Hamilton my striker had hit there respective targets for this challenge so they were simply carrying on building up the score whilst Archer who arrived later to the club was looking to hit the 162 he needed to complete the challenge.

He did just that and a bit more in Season 12.
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That puts me on a challenge total of 546 so far but I will continue for at least as long as I carry on with the goalscoring TT as well and see how high a total I can get.

The current highest total is by @Kanegan with 584 so that looks reachable in the next season or so my own personal record in general challenge came in 2018 when I got 838 but that is a long way off.

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This is proof of how Tanner and Hamilton did as well.

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The Triple Threat Challenge 

My biggest worry with this challenge has always been keeping my trio together at TNS. Lyons and Cochrane was less of a worry as they are decent at this level and do ok in Europe to an extent but they were never likely to attract much attention but Hamilton has had almost every club in England from mid PL level down to Lg1 after him. 

He has been unhappy for the majority of the save but as with my previous update a combination of intimidation and new number contracts has kept him at the club. He has another 4 years left on his deal which should be enough to finish the TT now if I stop at 1500 goals.

The bonus of having plenty of cash as well is that he is now on a wage that no other club would want to pay him especially as he is late 20s meaning interest in him has disappeared in the last season and in turn he hasn’t had his head turned and become unhappy. It is costing £29k a week to keep him but it is worth it and not like we can’t afford it.

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His goal record has been superb all the way through this save with 66 goals being his record that he has achieved twice so far and of course loads of assists as well.

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Lyons and Cochrane have certainly contributed as well with between late teens and early 30s goal totals each season.

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The one blip was season 10 when they failed to get to 100 goals but as you can see Lyons and Cochrane were well down on games as they both had injuries and Hamilton was in a sulk all season and very inconsistent even with 44 goals.

With 277 goals left to get I would say it will take another 2 and a bit seasons to reach 1.5k although the season I hit 1.5k I will finish before I consider if I continue the save or not.

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Competitions

Unsurprisingly it’s almost total dominance in Welsh football with just the odd season I missed out on a cup. We drop points in the league which I put down to a mixture of complacency and the fact the league isn’t suspended for International matches so I lose a fair few players in those weeks.

The one domestic trophy I was missing was the Tunnocks Wafer Cup though and I finally managed to win that in these seasons and in fact I have won it twice. The games tend to come in the International break and although none of my challengers play for there international teams very often (Cochrane gets called up by Northern Ireland now and again) I do have a big chunk of the squad disappear and still have games to play.

We keep plugging away in Europe but have yet to win a trophy. Much of that is probably my stubbornness as early in the save when we were shite I would change the tactic and be more conservative in European games but in the last few season I haven’t bothered because the squad is geared up for my all attacking 3-2-5 tactic and I would rather win or not a European trophy with that way of playing than boring my way to a cup which would lead to less goals from my TT Trio. I have a squad that would do well in the Championship as a whole but then Lyons and Cochrane to name two aren’t any where near that standard so consistently getting to the KO stages in the EL or E2 isn’t so bad.

The ultimate aim of the save is the TT and assist TT and the tactic is geared towards that perhaps at the expense of the whole team being consistent but the  numbers in those challenges speak for themselves I think.

Competitions Record

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Season 8

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Season 9

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Season 10

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Season 11

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Season 12

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Thank you for reading.

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7 hours ago, Foxy said:

Youth Policy and discipline must be broken as my squad is an average age of 23 and I fine every misdeed.

Youth Policy, maybe you bought a couple "older" guys or released too many youngsters? I think this should be based either on average age or better yet number of academy lads that are brought into the first team. 

Discipline, last year I warned everyone getting 2 yellows and fined 1 week everyone getting straight red. Recent career I fined everyone 1 week regardless their misconduct. Worked for me. 

Great progress, Fox. 

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Thanks @gunnersaur and @Kanegan :)

3 hours ago, BatiGoal said:

Youth Policy, maybe you bought a couple "older" guys or released too many youngsters? I think this should be based either on average age or better yet number of academy lads that are brought into the first team. 

Discipline, last year I warned everyone getting 2 yellows and fined 1 week everyone getting straight red. Recent career I fined everyone 1 week regardless their misconduct. Worked for me. 

Great progress, Fox. 

If I go back 6 seasons my profile looks like this and you can see that both attributes have plummeted in the years since.

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To me it makes no sense though as in the early days of the save I did buy some older players and didn’t use my reserve youth players that much but now the squad is better and the youth facilities are good I promote at least one player every season and only buy players under 21 that could sell for a profit to keep my profit going.

With discipline I fine everything 1 weeks wage. I don’t fine bookings but I fine sendings off and then the messages about texting/falling asleep in training, bad attitude etc and I get a lot of those from my reserves. Again that has gone down in the last 6 seasons despite my efforts to fine as in the past I did tend to ignore fining players as I’m lazy but I wanted to boost that attribute.

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Great stuff Foxy! Absolutely crushing this. 

If you were using a single striker tactic, that Hamilton lad would be well on his way to 3K by now. He is just amazing for the Welsh league. Of course I know that's not the point of the save, but he would have been a record breaker...

On 13/04/2020 at 04:42, Foxy said:

I’m not sure many 1kc/DT/TT challenges have ever been finished with a transfer profit

I always finish with billions in the bank. At the start I can't spend it, as only young players want to come play at my (comparatively) unfashionable teams. By the time the big money signings want to come, my youngsters are their equal anyway...

Anyway, can't wait to see this ends. 🙂

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48 minutes ago, Scratch said:

always finish with billions in the bank. At the start I can't spend it, as only young players want to come play at my (comparatively) unfashionable teams. By the time the big money signings want to come, my youngsters are their equal anyway...

Fair enough.

I usually end up looking something like this after buying too many expensive players and then selling them for much less a couple of seasons later when they can’t get enough game time :)

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14 minutes ago, Foxy said:

Fair enough.

I usually end up looking something like this after buying too many expensive players and then selling them for much less a couple of seasons later when they can’t get enough game time :)

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I guess I'm a bit of a penny-pinching miser... Maybe that's why I feel at home playing in Scotland... 🤣

The way it works with me is that I get a bunch of wonderkids for 10M each, develop them (via loans) into world beaters who'd fit into any team in the world other than mine, then sell them for $80M when they can't get game time.... 

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Season 13 - 15 Update - The Triple Threat

These last couple of seasons were a real grind if I’m being honest which is something I have never experienced doing goal scoring challenges as usually by the later seasons the team is good and you can rattle through the seasons. I think with the lockdown I played this more and quicker than I usually would and that was part of the problem.

I have managed to maintain my transfer profit mostly due to a lack of players worth spending money on.

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It was all about the end goal of the TT though and a place in The Triple Crown hall of fame.

Competitions

Europe continues to frustrate as I got to another Europa League semi in season 14 only to meet Real Madrid who put me out. On our day we can beat almost anyone in Europe but over two legs against the really big boys we just don’t have enough.

I did get my best European result in season 15 though with this demolition of Inter although it wasn’t enough to get us out the group.

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Spoiler

Season 13

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Season 14

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Season 15

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The Triple Threat Assists Challenge

I completed this during the last update but I carried on going with the three lads to up my total. Tanner is pushing into his mid 30s now so hasn’t played as much but he still contributed whilst Archer is an assists machine most seasons although his totals have dwindled the last three seasons and Hamilton keeps adding to his total as well.

The current total stands 676 assists and with the future of this save undecided at the moment it is the total I will be submitting for the leaderboard. If the save does carry on after a break and I continue with these three lads I can always make a new submission.

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Spoiler

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The Triple Threat

My aim was to get the bulk of the goals in season 13 and 14 with season 15 being the season I hit the 1.5k and then went on and added a few more to the total. It worked out that way but not quite as well as I hoped.

At the beginning of season 15 I needed 74 goals to complete the TT as the players seemed to match my mood with the save in the final 3 seasons and not be as interested. 

I actually think what is going on is the three strikers are still early 30s and as “good” as they have ever been but the rest of the squad have gotten better and are taking a few more goals off of them. We certainly aren’t scoring less than in previous seasons so I think that must be the case along with both Cochrane and Lyon having a couple of injury hit years as well.

They got the job done though in early January in the league cup final thanks to the opening goal from Hamilton.

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That leaves them on 1524 at the end of season 15.

As I said before all three lads still look decent although Cochrane and Lyon are getting more prone to injuries now so the “slightly injury prone” they have been carrying with them all save might be catching up with them again after some decent years in there 20s following Cochrane broken leg.

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Lyon has been the most injury prone and when you look at there appearances he only played 20 times more than Cochrane and he had missed 8 months in season 3 and 4 with that broken leg that cost him his Race to 100 Goals attempt.

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Hamilton has been the real star though and he looks like he might just have a 1kc in him even playing as a front 3. He sits on 759 goals and is consistently getting 50+ a season so if he maintained that for a few more years in his early 30s he would get there. 
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So it maybe that I come back to this save at some point after a break and see if I can get Hamilton to 1k goals and I may move clubs to see if that freshens things up but that’s all just em thinking out loud at the moment. One thing for certain in that if I do go for a 1kc with Hamilton he will continue to play up front with his two mates in order to up my TT score as well.

Thanks for reading and all comments are appreciated.

 

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