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Career Shxce's AttemptS at a Challenge [Liverpool Front Three]


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So, I've actually posted a challenge once, @Foxy and @BatiGoal's Race to 100 challenge, but kinda failed miserably cuz I got fired in the end so.... that thread was left to rot. Will probably attempt it again someday though, but for now I shall attempt another challenge.

And since I'm a Liverpool fan, makes sense for me to get excited about this challenge, right? Challenge details are below, credits to @Rob.

 

(Still not sure how to insert a thread so just gotta stick w hyperlinks till I figure out how, much help appreciated if anyone can teach me how 😅)

Edit: Embedded link works now, thanks @Kanegan!

Anyway, I'll be updating this thread live as I go thus the title because I have no idea if I'll be able to complete the challenge so, stay tuned to find out! Hopefully I'll be able to get on the leaderboards for the first time?

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20 minutes ago, Shxce said:

So, I've actually posted a challenge once, @Foxy and @BatiGoal's Race to 100 challenge, but kinda failed miserably cuz I got fired in the end so.... that thread was left to rot. Will probably attempt it again someday though, but for now I shall attempt another challenge.

And since I'm a Liverpool fan, makes sense for me to get excited about this challenge, right? Challenge details are below, credits to @Rob.

The 'Liverpool Front Three' Challenge

(Still not sure how to insert a thread so just gotta stick w hyperlinks till I figure out how, much help appreciated if anyone can teach me how 😅)

Anyway, I'll be updating this thread live as I go thus the title because I have no idea if I'll be able to complete the challenge so, stay tuned to find out! Hopefully I'll be able to get on the leaderboards for the first time?

 

Good luck. You just need to copy the url of the desired thread and paste it in your post.

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Friendlies

Started off with a few friendlies and adjusting tactics and instructions, and these are the results of the friendlies!

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3/3 wins with my front 3 getting on the scoreboard 5 times was a good start! In my defence, I only lost the Fulham game cuz I accidentally simmed the first game. Had a mini shock when Salah had to come off injured, but at least it was only a knock.

 

Community Shield

Three wins out of three was a good start, so I thought I was ready for the Community Shield. But I realised maybe there's more work to be done.

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Couldn't close out the game within the first 90 minutes, and got dominated by City in terms of possession. Salah also had to be substituted out after a knock. Not sure if it's just bad luck or something to be worried about. In the end, after missed penalties from skipper Henderson and keeper Alisson, we fell short of the Community Shield.

Stay tuned for more as I attempt the first few matchweeks! (and hope I don't get fired this time 😅)

 

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So, I managed to complete the entire season in one sitting after all. Spoilers below as I got a picture of every match result. Mane missed 5 penalties for me as he was my first choice penalty taker. I think he might have missed more than he scored, which was really disappointing. 

August Fixtures

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September Fixtures

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October Fixtures

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November Fixtures

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December Fixtures

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January Fixtures

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February Fixtures

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March Fixtures

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April Fixtures

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May Fixtures

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Didn't manage to do very well in the end. We had insane form in the early months, but 8 games in December and 9 in January really took a toll on my team and performances started to drop. Could have done better (especially if I changed my penalty taker), but got to make do with being the bottom of the leaderboards for now.

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Tactics

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Awards

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Transfers

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Challenge Results

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League Points: 91

Goal Difference: 51

Salah: 28 Goals + 21 Assists = 49

Mane: 28 Goals + 8 Assists = 36

Firmino: 21 Goals + 12 Assists = 33

Total Points: 260

@Rob, could you update the leaderboards? Finally got my name up somewhere but firmly at bottom place 😂

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Nice looking system and some good signings. I was just looking at using Laporte on one of my saves yesterday funnily enough as I’ve never used him before. Scott McTominay is a decent shout too as a midfield option.

I don’t think you’re far away from getting a lot more points on this. If you could just find a way to score a few more team goals you’ll be well set as you’ve got a good bit going through the three lads.

Nice attempt.

 

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2 hours ago, Rob said:

Good first attempt, and you aren’t bottom place. Bottom place belongs to the person too scared to try it.

That's true haha, thinking of how I can tweak it to make it better before I attempt it again (apart from putting Mane in the backseat for penalties....)

2 hours ago, broodje kip said:

😬I really need to make a 2nd shot soon. VWC and 1kc really keep me away from it

VWC's much more exciting HAHA

2 hours ago, Foxy said:

We all have to start somewhere and that was a nice attempt.

Thanks 😛

2 hours ago, Woody said:

Well done mate, your on the board thats what counts, now you have something to improve on 👍

Thanks HAHA, yeah thinking of giving it another try (and maybe flooding the leaderboard 🤔)

2 hours ago, Ian said:

Nice looking system and some good signings. I was just looking at using Laporte on one of my saves yesterday funnily enough as I’ve never used him before. Scott McTominay is a decent shout too as a midfield option.

I don’t think you’re far away from getting a lot more points on this. If you could just find a way to score a few more team goals you’ll be well set as you’ve got a good bit going through the three lads.

Nice attempt.

 

I always thought Laporte was really good -- City's defence did break down with him injured. McTominay didn't do much for me in the end though, thinking of buying a better midfield in my next attempt. Don't need much cover as Liverpool's midfield is congested enough, but Brozovic didn't do much for me either. I kept falling back on Ox, Keita, Hendo, Milner as rotations with Wij's place secured. Not sure if I'm getting my tactics wrong but he just didn't perform since friendlies ended.

2 hours ago, Kanegan said:

Good attempt mate. 

Thanks mate 👍

2 hours ago, BatiGoal said:

Keep testing and experimenting with new tweaks and soon enough you'll be hitting 300+. 

Yeah gonna give it another go soon!

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So, I'm giving this another go, and I somehow missed out on Manager of the Month in September, so I went to take a look, and how did that even happen???

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Can anyone explain to me how this works? I'm just so salty that I didn't get the award when I think I thoroughly deserved it. 🤬

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So I had 4 wins in 4 EPL games with a goal difference of 12-0, but somehow I didn't even make Top 3?

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Lampard topped MotM with 3 wins and GD of 5-1???

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Ole too, with 3 wins and a 5-1 scoreline.

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But wait, what? Even Ancelotti with 1 loss and two wins and a combined score of 10-4 ranked higher than me???

 

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6 minutes ago, Rob said:

Not sure, but that’s a lot of nil against you! 

Yup, doing much better this attempt! Let's see if I can do above 300 this time 🤔

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Update: Conceded my first league goal in Matchweek 8, in a 3-1 win over Aston Villa????

Guess not conceding the entire season is too much to ask for? 😂

Anyway this is a challenge to get more goals, not concede less so, as long as I score more than my opponent, that's fine right? HAHA

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And in my defence, Mane did get injured for about a week, but luckily for me, it was just before the international break, so didn't affect things too much.

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Also, I realised Robertson has been a constant problem. In 20 games, he has managed 10 yellow cards and 2 red cards, how does that even happen??? Btw, team instructions aren't even set on committed tackling. Couldn't have him messing up my team anymore, so found a replacement for him. Not particularly fond of the lower stats, but if he can stop getting carded and causing my team to lose a man, I'm all for the replacement instead. We'll see how it goes, stay tuned to find out!

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Edited the post title to cater to more of my attemptS, which I can foresee coming. Made some adjustments, and here are the results.

Fixtures

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Also, didn't manage enough high scoring games, with only three 5 goal games against Watford, City and Leicester, and two 6 goal games against Kobenhavn in UCL and Hienghene in the Club World Cup.

Only Aston Villa managed to score against me in both fixtures, which dashed my dreams of conceding single digit goals in the league.

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Only managed 4 MoTM, but I swear I deserve more!

On 09/05/2020 at 21:37, Shxce said:

So, I'm giving this another go, and I somehow missed out on Manager of the Month in September, so I went to take a look, and how did that even happen???

This is how I missed out on my 5th MoTM, and I stopped keeping track of team performances in the league after that cuz it was so rigged. 😢

Look! What about me? 😢

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Not sure if this was cheating, but I always had a problem playing against City, so since I had some spare cash, I bought all their center backs, and this is how their line-up was after that.

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At one point in time they had Zinchenko and Aguero as their center backs... (Maybe that's how I won) 😜

But I guess all's fair in the transfer market, and if they were willing to sell, I can't be faulted for that!

Mid Season

This was how things looked on January 1st, after half the season.

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Which totaled to 169 points, and I thought I was on my way to a respectable finish. I mean, 338 is a really good score by my standards. But things just don't go the way you expect them to.

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Won every competition I could (probably cuz City didn't have a backline), but somehow lost in the Fifth Round of the FA Cup??? At home??? At Anfield??? To Nottingham Forest???

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Challenge Results

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League Points: 101

Goal Difference: 71

Salah: 37 Goals + 18 Assists = 55

Mane: 29 Goals + 13 Assists = 42

Firmino: 21 Goals + 17 Assists = 38

Total Points: 307

Didn't manage to keep up our form in the first half of the season, but still managed my goal of having over 300 points. 

Still not contented, I'm gonna give it another go soon.

Could've managed more points, but among the crazy fixture schedule and my jaded front 3, Minamino actually managed 12 goals and 20 points somehow. If only I played my front 3 more... Then again, couldn't risk them getting injured.

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Just checked out @Foxy's guide to Firmino's role and I'm gonna try and tinker around with my tactics a bit, and giving it another go.

 

 

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Mina is a good player which I’ve found out whilst doing this challenge, he can fill in in so many positions. You’re formidable at the back and should be proud of it as there’s nothing better as a manager and as a fan than your team keeping it tight at the back.

Nice attempt again.

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@Ian HAHA I haven’t even realised his potential, he has only been a sub for me to rotate the front 3 cuz I have enough backup players in all other positions. And yeah I was really surprised conceding so few goals the entire season, I think I was probably just lucky HAHA

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Had a few ideas to further tweak my tactic (or combine the two), but I'm not sure how well it'll work, so just putting it out there.

GK: Have always put Alisson as a SK, but I constantly get match reports with 'Wasteful goalkeeper distribution', and I thought, since I have BPD's to start play and bring the ball forward, I wouldn't need Alisson to be a SK and he can instead be a G instead.

CB: Having both my CB as BPD did well for me so far, without many goals against us, so I would think it's a good combination which I plan to continue using. I would have to find an upgrade for Matip though, with Gomez as my backline substitute due to his versatility as CB and WB.

FB: Similarly, not much issues with my WB pushed forward, except Robertson committing too many fouls, but not too pressing of an issue and I will only find a replacement for him if budget allows for it, but it isn't too high up my priority list.

CM: Tried BBM-BWM-BBM once and CM-DM-AP once, and I feel that I don't have to pack my defence with too many players. I'll be attempting a BBM-AP-BBM in my next attempt, with my 2 BBM hopefully able to cover any defensive lapses and my third midfielder pushed up as an AP instead of in the CDM position. Will have to use most of my transfer budget here, or whatever is left of it after splashing the cash on Koulibaly. Henderson will be my remaining BBM cuz I wouldn't have enough budget, but hoping to get Brozovic as my other BBM. Pjanic is a good choice as my AP, but may prove too expensive, in which case, I might go for Parejo. If budget allows for it, I would want McTominay/Jorginho too, both of which would be good options as BBM, but that would mean I have to overhaul my entire midfield and be able to sell all of them. If not, will possible keep Milner as cover (I don't think he has any resale value), and possibly Fabinho if he can be retrained as a BBM, and Wijnaldum (I just like him). Keita has to go, and I think he will bring in quite decent money, and Ox wasn't even in my considerations cuz of his defensive flaws, even though I quite like him in real life.

CAM: Firmino remains firmly in the CAM position cuz of his inferior finishing stats compared to the other two, but instead of building him as a T this time, I will attempt him as a SS, and hopefully he can bring us more assists and be more useful to the team and supply more chances to the front two, like Savic managed in @Foxy's article tagged above.

CF: Mane as a Poacher didn't work wonders, although his score wasn't too shabby, but this time I plan for both of them to be AF, so Mane will be able to supply Salah with goals too, instead of the balls going one way. After all, Salah does have better stats.

Stay tuned to find out how my third attempt goes, and if I will be able to break 400 this time! Wish me luck 😊

 

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Update: Just got my third attempt started.

Managed to secure Koulibaly, McTominay and Brozovic, but didn't have enough funds for Pjanic and Parejo failed a medical, and I just barely had enough for Gundogan as my AP. Also, in a rash bid to weaken CIty on the last day of the transfer window, I might have splurged 50 million (which I got from the sale of Shaqiri and Origi) + Fabinho for Ederson, only for him to sit on the bench, second to Alisson. Not quite a smart decision there. Essentially sold 3 players that could serve as back up, just to buy Ederson for the bench. I didn't managed to offload Lovren and Clyne, or I could at least have bought Bravo too.

You could say friendlies went well I suppose, considering 4 wins out of 4. However, considering two offsides and one missed penalty in the first game, I can foresee RNG's not gonna be too kind to me in this save.

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And it didn't take me too long to be proven right. Just after the first friendly, I saw this.

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Which means that Salah was going to miss the first two competitive fixtures. I wonder how we would fare without him.

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In the two games that Salah missed, Minamino made up the last of my front 3, and he snatched 2 goals and 1 assist, with Firmino also managing to miss a penalty. I wonder if these four points dropped would prove costly at the end of the season on the leaderboards? Stay tuned to find out!

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It didn't take Salah long to make an impact upon his return, smashing in a brace to bag us the Super Cup!

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With 2 assists from Firmino, the 5 points is a good start! Hopefully my front 3 will be able to stay healthy and fit, and my talisman can continue smashing in goals at this rate! Will I be able to reach 400? Stay tuned!

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So, this update is me officially abandoning the attempt. RNG just wasn't on my side this time and I don't possibly see a way at a decent score.

Fixtures

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Manager Career

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Points

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This equates to 49 + 31 + (16+6) + (12+8) + (16+7) = 145 points

145 for half a season, with the trend falling off in the second half, I don't even think I can achieve 300 points, much less 400. 

And here is the main reason why:

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After two lengthy injuries from Salah which means he'll probably miss most of the season, I don't think I can get a decent score anymore. Nonetheless, will still give it another try with this tactic and transfers, and hopefully I get luckier next time. As you can see in the 28 games I played so far, I only lost 1 game, so let's see how it will do for me if my front 3 remains fit.

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Good attempt regardless of injuries. I tried this dozens of times and only posted three attempts, the last of which was my best score and was a pretty clean injury season for the three boys (not the other players, mind you).

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12 hours ago, Rob said:

Good attempt regardless of injuries. I tried this dozens of times and only posted three attempts, the last of which was my best score and was a pretty clean injury season for the three boys (not the other players, mind you).

I never knew Vibers ran the challenge many times before choosing one to post HAHA I always assumed they just posted their first attempt. 😂

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Gave this one more attempt, and there was one result that I found really surprising.

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Tactics

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Notable Mentions

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The classic Anfield comeback against Barcelona, yet again. After going down 2-1 at Camp Nou, we dominated the return fixture with a 7-2 Anfield performance, with many many points from this one game.

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On the other end of the spectrum would be the disappointing final, where we came from behind to equalise twice, only to fall short of the title after a Mane injury and a last minute goal by Rabiot.

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Challenge Results

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League Points: 101

Goal Difference: 74

Salah: 40 Goals + 20 Assists = 60

Mane: 37 Goals + 37 Assists = 74

Firmino: 34 Goals + 8 Assists = 42

Total Points: 351

Wonderful attempt this time, with my aim being 170 from the league table, and 180 points coming from my players. I would say it wasn't too shabby an attempt. The surprise being Mane racking up 37 goals and 37 assists! I did not expect that at all.

With this done and dusted, I don't think I'll revisit this challenge any time soon. 350 was the aim, and I made it! 

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