Career Milan Baros the Late Bloomer (Season 6)

[Ian]

8 hours ago, Scratch said:

Don't worry mate. The second season is the one where they take off and score a boatload and confuse everyone making predictions... 😄

Though I've got to say he looks a bit rough. It's likely to be a hard ask of him, he'll have to play on for some years. I reckon he'll score 32 next season. But anyway, this save is all the more interesting because it's not straightforward. Gonna keep us all glued to our seats.

Thank you Scratch, he does look a bit rough and those physicals will soon diminish to non existent levels no doubt. I’d be happy with 32 right now as we only managed 75 league goals so if we can improve on that hopefully that’ll yield a higher return for the main man. As long as he doesn’t drop into the teens I’ll still retain hope. 

[Ian]

Season 2

After being slightly disappointed myself with the first season Milan certainly wasn’t as it was his best ever club return so he was very thankful of the guidance I’d given him and it’s safe to say he likes me, just not as much as Harry Kewell unfortunately.

 

He did invite me to the Czech Republic in the off season which turned out to be an enjoyable experience but we were soon back in Istanbul to plan for the next season.

 

Transfers

Plenty of outgoings and a few new faces to hopefully strengthen us.

The incomings are briefly described below;

• Emre Kılınç - A very nice looking left winger who is new to me.
• Niklas Stark - I’ve gone boring here as I have used this player a few times. Should be a really good centre back at this level.
• Portu - A new playmaker who at 28 years old is right at his peak. Hopefully we’ll get a good couple of years out of him.
• Milot Rashica - A good winger who can also play up top so great for the squad.
• Badou Ndiaye - An steady central midfielder who might be a little old but if he can give us just one good season he’ll be worth it.
• Felipe Aguilar - Another centre back arrived to offer cover there.
• Alfred N’Diaya - Another older central midfielder who we just hope can give us one good season.
• Arne Maier - A nice fairly young central midfielder was brought in on loan.

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Team Results

The main man got off to a great start as he powered home of brace of goals to help bring us our first trophy of the season.

 

Our Champions League campaign went much better this year as we topped our group so the knockout stage awaited us.

 

We’d face Zenit in the first knockout round and gave a good amount of ourselves in the first away leg as it took a last minute goal for them to rescue a draw. We were still happy and really fancied our chances in the return leg.

 

Unfortunately the occasion got the better of us as we fired blanks in the return home game and a goal from Malcom late on finished us off.

 

Everything was going to plan in the league and we also made the cup final where Milan got the second goal in a 2-0 victory over Beşiktaş. I’ve mentioned him being good from the spot but on this occasion he missed but followed up to put home the rebound which I always think is a good sign.

 

So with that we picked up all domestic trophies available but we aren’t showing any signs that we’ll be able to do anything in Europe which is slightly disappointing.

 

Milan Baros

The best moment for Milan came in this game where he managed a brace and with non of them being from the penalty spot.

 

An improved return from the main man with 26 goals in 45 games to bring our total to 50 so over a third of the way there but it’s looking like we’ll need to somehow keep him going for a good few years if we’re to reach our target.

 

He’s rapidly declining now with those physicals looking utterly horrible. He’s still managing a somewhat reasonable amount of game time and can generally play for the first 50-60 minutes of each game and still be fit for the next match even if it’s just 4 days later. No doubt that won’t continue for much longer and I’ll probably have to either just play him for the first half or risk him for the full game knowing he won’t then be fit for the next. Saying that it’s unlikely we’ll ever be facing weak opponents in the European games so just leaving him out of most of them might be a good idea.

 

Manager

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Score

 

Milan Baros

Season 1: 24 goals in 48 games

Season 2: 26 goals in 45 games

Total: 50

Target: 141

 

We keep on going.

 

Thank you all for following.

[AdamNufc]

It's an improvement Ian but with him being 39 it's going to take you another 3.5 seasons on average to hit your target , I wonder how long you can keep him playing before his body gives out and he refuses to reconsider a retirement 

[Ian]

17 minutes ago, AdamNufc said:

It's an improvement Ian but with him being 39 it's going to take you another 3.5 seasons on average to hit your target , I wonder how long you can keep him playing before his body gives out and he refuses to reconsider a retirement 

Thank you Adam, yes that could well be the problem. It looks highly unlikely he’ll be able to get the goals in the three seasons he’s got on his contract so at some point I’m going to have to try and offer him another long contract. It’s when to do it though as even if he accepts it it could be the most he’ll play and even the five seasons at this stage mightn’t be enough. He could just retire at any time though also so guess we’ll just have to hope on that one. I think if we can get through this next season ok and it then looks like five seasons might be enough I’ll try to offer him the deal then, if he declines then it’ll be all over. 

[AdamNufc]

2 minutes ago, Ian said:

Thank you Adam, yes that could well be the problem. It looks highly unlikely he’ll be able to get the goals in the three seasons he’s got on his contract so at some point I’m going to have to try and offer him another long contract. It’s when to do it though as even if he accepts it it could be the most he’ll play and even the five seasons at this stage mightn’t be enough. He could just retire at any time though also so guess we’ll just have to hope on that one. I think if we can get through this next season ok and it then looks like five seasons might be enough I’ll try to offer him the deal then, if he declines then it’ll be all over. 

Just try best with using the reconsider retirement option , I've used that a few times and managed to get a player to go another 3 seasons further than he actually wanted to retire! Are you still going with him up top with the two SS?

[Ian]

15 minutes ago, AdamNufc said:

Just try best with using the reconsider retirement option , I've used that a few times and managed to get a player to go another 3 seasons further than he actually wanted to retire! Are you still going with him up top with the two SS?

Yeah I’ll try that when he tries to retire and hope for the best.

He’s still in front of the two SS’s and is just about still the main man for goals. Meza and Scarpa are the two that play mostly there. Chris Eubank is a nice player for us as he can play up top or at AMC and usually does a good job when required.

 

[AdamNufc]

1 minute ago, Ian said:

Yeah I’ll try that when he tries to retire and hope for the best.

He’s still in front of the two SS’s and is just about still the main man for goals. Meza and Scarpa are the two that play mostly there. Chris Eubank is a nice player for us as he can play up top or at AMC and usually does a good job when required.

 

10 MOTMs as well for Baros is brilliant, Chris Eubank 😂 yeah I like the SS role as it's really effective for me , it requires a lot of fitness and is difficult to manage , never went with 2 SS as support for a striker before so it's interesting to see it working , say at the end of the 90 minutes on average what is Baros condition like? I would say it would be around like 55 percent or so is my guess 

[smoggy90]

Good season mate that’s still a lot of goals considering his age! Good luck for season 3!

[Ian]

14 minutes ago, AdamNufc said:

10 MOTMs as well for Baros is brilliant, Chris Eubank 😂 yeah I like the SS role as it's really effective for me , it requires a lot of fitness and is difficult to manage , never went with 2 SS as support for a striker before so it's interesting to see it working , say at the end of the 90 minutes on average what is Baros condition like? I would say it would be around like 55 percent or so is my guess 

He’s usually around the low 70’s I’d say. He seems better for fitness than what Kean was when I went long with him last year. He was alone up top with just an AP behind him and two wingers so maybe the two SS help Milan a little. Saying that his stamina hasn’t dropped to 1 yet so we’ll see what happens with him when it does if we get to that stage. 

[Ian]

5 minutes ago, smoggy90 said:

Good season mate that’s still a lot of goals considering his age! Good luck for season 3!

Thank you Smoggy, I just wish we could’ve gotten more goals on the first season as I felt we could have with a better system. Still got a chance though I guess as the squad is still not perfect.

[FuddledFox]

This is going to get tense I think!

[Kanegan]

Good return considering his age. This is looking like a last ball finish

[Charlielfc24]

7 hours ago, Ian said:

Thank you Smoggy, I just wish we could’ve gotten more goals on the first season as I felt we could have with a better system. Still got a chance though I guess as the squad is still not perfect.

hey Ian would you be able to share your tactics and formation? It seems to be working wonders for you 

[Ian]

9 hours ago, Foxy said:

This is going to get tense I think!

Thanks Mr Fox, it’s certainly looking that way.

9 hours ago, Kanegan said:

Good return considering his age. This is looking like a last ball finish

Thank you Kane, it could go either way but I still have hope that we can do it.

2 hours ago, Charlielfc24 said:

hey Ian would you be able to share your tactics and formation? It seems to be working wonders for you 

Thanks Charlie, I will share the tactic and instructions on the next update.

[Ian]

Season 3

After two decent opening seasons Milan has managed to score 50 goals which puts him 91 short of our target. Obviously he’ll probably need more than the three years he has left on his contract so I’ll have to decided when to try and offer him an extension, more on that later but first I’ll go through the team affairs.

 

Transfers

Practically all of the outgoings this year were fringe or reserve players and it was particularly pleasing to finally be able to get rid of Ryan Babel, he never played a game for me but I just couldn’t manage to sell him which was a pain due to the massive wages he was on. It’s similar with Falcao who is still our highest earner although I have a feeling he will be out contract now so that’ll hopefully free up some more funds. 

The incomings are rather briefly described below;

• Sander Berge - A very nice central midfielder who is now 23 so just arriving at what will hopefully be his best years.
• Davy Klaassen - He’s someone I’ve yet to use but looks good and at 28 he should be at his peak. He can play central midfield or as an attacking midfielder so good option to have hopefully.
• Gonzalo Martínez - A rather steady left winger who is sort of a stop gap at 28 years old. Out of the options available and taking price into the equation I just felt he was the best bet as I can just see him coming in and doing a good job.
• Mijat Gacinovic - He’s an attacking midfielder who is totally new to me so we’ll how he gets on.
• Suat Serder - A nice central midfielder who I have used on last years game. He’s more of a ball winner really with great physical attributes and I’m hoping he’ll do well in this league.
• Pablo Mari - A new centre back.
• Filip Manojlovic - I felt we needed a new goalkeeper as our number one is ageing and this guy is somewhat similar but much younger so they’ll battle it out.

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Tactic

Here is the full tactic as promised. You can probably see it isn’t going to be ideal for a lot of teams and even with top teams things can go badly wrong if just a few things are out of place. I haven’t really deviated from these settings on this save so far and our domestic success has been fine which is probably to be expected being one of the better teams in the league but we’ve yet to do anything at all in Europe so it’s far from perfect. It was just designed to try and score a good chunk of team goals and offer plenty of support for Baros and things have gone well enough on that front so I haven’t needed to change anything but I may do in the future if things start going wrong. You may notice from some of my screenshots of games that we are often wasteful with our shots with plenty going off target which could point to a problem but it’s difficult to work out when we have such a poor striker up top. I don’t want to go into much detail on attributes and such but I will say that if the BBM’s don’t have great stamina and the AP doesn’t have great movement as a minimum then I’m not sure I’d even try it.

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Team Performances

We got off to a great start and won our first trophy of the season with our main man opening the scoring.

 

It’s safe to say Europe was an absolute disaster this year as we couldn’t even qualify from our group in third place to drop into the Europa, although a group containing PSG, Dortmund and Roma wasn’t exactly the sort of group we wanted. PSG and Roma both humiliated us as seen below and that’s the last you’ll hear about it.

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Milan managed a goal in the other cup final too to keep up our 100% domestic trophy record as the league was won comfortably.

 

Manager

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Milan Baros

Milan finally scored a hat trick, two were from the spot but they all count.

 

He wasn’t finished there as he hit another one and this time non were from the spot.

 

Milan had his best season yet as he managed 32 goals in 42 games which we’re very happy with. He’s declining rapidly now but certain aspects of the squad are better which I think is helping him. I still think this will definitely be the ceiling in terms of returns but it’s given us a great chance. He hasn’t suffered an injuries since the first season which whilst great is also not so good in some ways as you’d expect he’s due one.

 

The dilemma I face now is when to offer him a contract? I went into the negotiation page during this season and it seemed he’d be willing to sign but it’s in my mind that if I wait until after January next season he’d get another five seasons after the next, well providing he plays the contract out that is. The problem is he may decide before January to retire at the end of his current deal which would make the 59 goals we still need an incredibly tough ask in two seasons considering he’s only going to keep on declining in attributes.

 

Score

 

Milan Baros

Season 1: 24 goals in 48 games

Season 2: 26 goals in 45 games

Season 3: 32 goals in 42 games

Total: 82

Target: 141

 

Dilemma

I’m sat here as I’ve moved over into the new season and this is the screenshot of where I left things. He wanted a two year deal but I’ve bumped it up to five and I’m fairly confident he’ll go for it. Do I go for it though or should I try to risk waiting until January to get the possible extra year?

 

Thank you for following. 

Edited July 29, 2020 by Ian

[AdamNufc]

9 minutes ago, Ian said:

Season 3

After two decent opening seasons Milan has managed to score 50 goals which puts him 91 short of our target. Obviously he’ll probably need more than the three years he has left on his contract so I’ll have to decided when to try and offer him an extension, more on that later but first I’ll go through the team affairs.

 

Transfers

Practically all of the outgoings this year were fringe or reserve players and it was particularly pleasing to finally be able to get rid of Ryan Babel, he never played a game for me but I just couldn’t manage to sell him which was a pain due to the massive wages he was on. It’s similar with Falcao who is still our highest earner although I have a feeling he will be out contract now so that’ll hopefully free up some more funds. 

The incomings are rather briefly described below;

• Sander Berge - A very nice central midfielder who is now 23 so just arriving at what will hopefully be his best years.
• Davy Klaassen - He’s someone I’ve yet to use but looks good abd at 28 he should be at his peak. He can play central midfield or as an attacking midfielder so good option to have hopefully.
• Gonzalo Martínez - A rather steady left winger who is sort of a stop gap at 28 years old. Out of the options available and taking price into the equation I just felt he was the best bet as I can just see him coming in and doing a good job.
• Mijat Gacinovic - He’s an attacking midfielder who is totally new to me so we’ll how he gets on.
• Suat Serder - A nice central midfielder who I have used on last years game. He’s more of a ball winner really with great physica attributes and I’m hoping he’ll do well in this league.
• Pablo Mari - A new centre back.
• Filip Manojlovic - I felt we needed a new goalkeeper as our number one is ageing and this guy is somewhat similar but much younger so they’ll battle it out.

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Tactic

Here is the full tactic as promised. You can probably see it isn’t going to be ideal for a lot of teams and even with top teams things can go badly wrong if just a few things are out of place. I haven’t really deviated from these settings on this save so far and our domestic success has been fine which is probably to be expected being one of the better teams in the league but we’ve yet to do anything at all in Europe so it’s far from perfect. It was just designed to try and score a good chunk of team goals and offer plenty of support for Baros and things have gone well enough on that front so I haven’t needed to change anything but I may do in the future if things start going wrong. You may notice from some of my screenshots of games that we are often wasteful with our shots with plenty going off target which could point to a problem but it’s difficult to work out when we have such a poor striker up top. I don’t want to go into much detail on attributes and such but I will say that if the BBM’s don’t have great stamina and the AP doesn’t have great movement as a minimum then I’m not sure I’d even try it.

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Team Performances

We got off to a great start and won our first trophy of the season with our main man opening the scoring.

 

It’s safe to say Europe was an absolute disaster this year as we couldn’t even qualify from our group in third place to drop into the Europa, although a group containing PSG, Dortmund and Roma wasn’t exactly the sort of group we wanted. PSG and Roma both humiliated us as seen below and that’s the last you’ll hear about it.

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Milan managed a goal in the other cup final too to keep up our 100% domestic trophy record as the league was won comfortably.

 

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Milan Baros

Milan finally scored a hat trick, two were from the spot but they all count.

 

He wasn’t finished there as he hit another one and this time non were from the spot.

 

Milan had his best season yet as he managed 32 goals in 42 games which we’re very happy with. He’s declining rapidly now but certain aspects of the squad are better which I think is helping him. I still think this will definitely be the ceiling in terms of returns but it’s given us a great chance. He hasn’t suffered an injuries since the first season which whilst great is also not so good in some ways as you’d expect he’s due one.

 

The dilemma I face now is when to offer him a contract? I went into the negotiation page during this season and it seemed he’d be willing to sign but it’s in my mind that if I wait until after January next season he’d get another five seasons after the next, well providing he plays the contract out that is. The problem is he may decide before January to retire at the end of his current deal which would make the 59 goals we still need an incredibly tough ask in two seasons considering he’s only going to keep on declining in attributes.

 

Score

 

Milan Baros

Season 1: 24 goals in 48 games

Season 2: 26 goals in 45 games

Season 3: 32 goals in 42 games

Total: 82

Target: 141

 

Dilemma

I’m sat here as I’ve moved over into the new season and this is the screenshot of where I left things. He wanted a two year deal but I’ve bumped it up to five and I’m fairly confident he’ll go for it. Do I go for it though or should I try to risk waiting until January to get the possible extra year?

 

Thank you for following. 

Been looking forward to your season 3 update and it ain't a @Iantactic if it ain't a 2 at the back and I love the lay out of pretty much packing the final third with players around Baros to best support him 

Cracking 3rd season for Baros but them attributes are definitely dropping so next season could be interesting 

I have confidence in you to get the remaining 59 goals in about 3 seasons so I'd say offer him the 5 year deal , bump Hsi wages up a bit so he will more likely take the 5 year rather than keep demanding a 2 year and if at any point he does decide to retire hope that if you ask him to reconsider he will!

 

[FuddledFox]

Cracking numbers for Baros there.

Personally I would get him signing the contract ASAP so you have a bit of security.

[Ian]

12 hours ago, AdamNufc said:

Been looking forward to your season 3 update and it ain't a @Iantactic if it ain't a 2 at the back and I love the lay out of pretty much packing the final third with players around Baros to best support him 

Cracking 3rd season for Baros but them attributes are definitely dropping so next season could be interesting 

I have confidence in you to get the remaining 59 goals in about 3 seasons so I'd say offer him the 5 year deal , bump Hsi wages up a bit so he will more likely take the 5 year rather than keep demanding a 2 year and if at any point he does decide to retire hope that if you ask him to reconsider he will!

 

Thank you Adam, he did very well and much better than I expected to be honest. Those two hat tricks made all the difference for his return. I went for the five in the end and he was happy to sign and then announce he’d be retiring so five seasons it hopefully is. I’d like to think we could do it in 4 full seasons which having the five gives us a little wiggle room for injuries and such. On the other hand I could be wrong and he might just drop to the stage where he literally can’t score as a lot of his goals are penalties in truth and I’ve heard others mention their players ability from the spot diminishing as they get older, if that happens to Baros I’ll be stuffed 😂

2 hours ago, Foxy said:

Cracking numbers for Baros there.

Personally I would get him signing the contract ASAP so you have a bit of security.

Thank you Foxy, a large portion were from the spot and probably another fair chunk from free kicks but they all count.

I’ve got him for the five years so hopefully he’ll play them out and it’s a fair challenge to have to get the 59 goals from this point I’d say.

Just need to do our transfer business now as there’s a few leaving out of contract and I’ve a few who are about 30 that I’ll probably try to replace so it’ll be a bit of a different squad going into next season I’d say.

[Kanegan]

A much better 3rd season. He is definitely blooming late. 😀

[Ian]

27 minutes ago, Kanegan said:

A much better 3rd season. He is definitely blooming late. 😀

Thank you Kane, he is and if you didn’t know his age and just looked at his history page you’d think he was a youngster developing year on year. I think this will be the ceiling but hopefully the drop off won’t be too much.

I do remember when I went long with Kean last year that the team around him can make a big difference as he produced his best return in years in his second last season and it was mainly because I discovered a team selection early on in the season which seemed to help him so went with that as much as possible. So I’m kind of looking out for that here with Milan and I’ve been looking at the games where he scored his hat tricks to see if I can see any patterns.

[Cockers2505]

Ian it doesn't matter what you offer him, 5 years will give you the time to get his Tally required, whether he makes it long is the question, I bow to your efforts, it is certainly a big ask getting another 50+ goals with his age and stats, how he gets the chance to score with only 1 Pace I do not know, I can picture him stood talking to the opposition GK waiting for the ball to drop into the box in which he jumps up and tries to score 🤣

 

Edited July 29, 2020 by Cockers2505

[Ian]

2 hours ago, Cockers2505 said:

Ian it doesn't matter what you offer him, 5 years will give you the time to get his Tally required, whether he makes it long is the question, I bow to your efforts, it is certainly a big ask getting another 50+ goals with his age and stats, how he gets the chance to score with only 1 Pace I do not know, I can picture him stood talking to the opposition GK waiting for the ball to drop into the box in which he jumps up and tries to score 🤣

 

Thank you Cockers, hopefully if he plays the five it’ll be enough but I’ve just checked his goals from last season and 12 of them were from the penalty spot and he only missed one, plus a few would’ve been free kicks I’m sure so a lot probably hinges on whether he remains good at those. His shooting at 10 mightn’t be so good but it’s not totally gone yet so it’ll be interesting to see what’ll happen to his ability from the spot once that drops right down. If he starts missing penalties then this will get soul destroying pretty fast I’m sure. 😂

In fact I’ve made my transfers and started the next season and I can confirm he’s missed a penalty in the first match of season so could be a sign of things to come!

 

[Charlielfc24]

Thanks for uploading your tactics im definitely gunna try them. Its a interesting formation thats for sure. As for baros dam hes getting close to that target good luck  and davy klassan I thought he was in his 30s aha feels like he's been around years now

[Ian]

8 hours ago, Charlielfc24 said:

Thanks for uploading your tactics im definitely gunna try them. Its a interesting formation thats for sure. As for baros dam hes getting close to that target good luck  and davy klassan I thought he was in his 30s aha feels like he's been around years now

Thank you Charlie, yeah try the tactic at purely your own risk 😂

I just mentioned the movement for the AP as it seems to be the most important well that and the stamina for the BBM’s, you still want the other stuff like creativity, passing and decisions but I find those can be a little lower as long as the movement is high. I find even the defence suffers if it’s low as it’s like the players can’t get the ball forward to the final third which makes some sense with this formation. They’re probably looking for the playmaker but if he can’t find the space then they’re just losing the ball constantly. It’s what I’ve found anyway in testing but maybe a different role or even settings might help with it.

Baros is looking really good but there’s always the worry that he’ll just hit a brick wall and lose the ability to score any goals. Hopefully if we can get another reasonable season next year I’ll have much more confidence.

Klaassen seems very good for us and this system in this league anyway as he can play at AP, BBM or the SS role so good to have. I think he’s about 29 on my current season so hopefully he has another couple of good years left in him. 

[smoggy90]

What a season that was Ian, great stuff! I would get that contract signed ASAP just in case anything changes and he won’t sign at all. 
Love the tactic, I have a similar one but it is 2-5-1-2 so the AM/forward line is different but I am using it in Scotland at the minute for a potential late bloomers career and it is great. 
Hope Baros knocks in another 30+ for you in S4. 

[Ian]

1 hour ago, smoggy90 said:

What a season that was Ian, great stuff! I would get that contract signed ASAP just in case anything changes and he won’t sign at all. 
Love the tactic, I have a similar one but it is 2-5-1-2 so the AM/forward line is different but I am using it in Scotland at the minute for a potential late bloomers career and it is great. 
Hope Baros knocks in another 30+ for you in S4. 

Thank you Smoggy, yeah I went to get him signed up in the end as it’s looking good for him doing it in five years if he plays them all that is. I actually thought that in the latter years of my Kean save he dropped to around 15 club goal returns but I’ve just checked and it was around 20 so that’s given me even more hope.

The balanced mentality is a bit of an experiment really as I did switch to it with a similar system on another save and felt slightly more of the goals were going to the striker but it was only based on one season so rather inconclusive. Not really learning anything here either as it’s difficult with Baros not being so great but it’s going well so no need to change it now I don’t think. I’ve tried a few things with this base 2-5 and the front three done in all sorts of ways all of which seem good and it’s definitely a great base to work with that’s for sure. Good luck in your attempt in Scotland.

[Scratch]

Pace of 1? 😲

Doing really well despite that. I think it was a good move to sign him up, I'm always a bit nervous they might decide their future's not at the club. It will be real interesting to see how he goes next season. I'm guessing your team is pretty good now, so should be lots of goals, it's just how many of them he can get. I'd say your good for at least 25 goals this season. Good luck!

[Ian]

6 hours ago, Scratch said:

Pace of 1? 😲

Doing really well despite that. I think it was a good move to sign him up, I'm always a bit nervous they might decide their future's not at the club. It will be real interesting to see how he goes next season. I'm guessing your team is pretty good now, so should be lots of goals, it's just how many of them he can get. I'd say your good for at least 25 goals this season. Good luck!

Thank you Scratch, I guess the good thing is that his pace can’t get any worse and yet he’s still scoring the odd goal. Another return of around 25 like you say next year and I’d be very confident. I’ve said before that he’s really good at pens and if he remains so then I think we’ll be ok as it doesn’t look as if much has changed from last year when I took Kean long in terms of him being able to play games. This was Kean at the end of that save and he’d been like that for about 5 years yet was still able to play a somewhat reasonable amount of games.

[Rob]

That leadership of 20. Legendary. 

[Ian]

8 minutes ago, Rob said:

That leadership of 20. Legendary. 

He was a fine leader of men right up until his retirement.

It’s just a shame his profile picture was never updated so I best update it now.