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Why LFC Signed Diogo Jota - A FMM Perspective


Why LFC Signed Diogo Jota - A FMM Perspective

I think the majority of football fans were caught off guard the other day when Liverpool Football Club announced a double signing which easily ranks as one of the club's best days in the transfer market. The first signing needs no introduction as Thiago Alcântara of Barcelona and Bayern Munich fame was welcomed through the Anfield gates, leading to excited reds and jealous rivals as Klopp added one of the world's elite midfielders to his ranks. The second addition however of Diogo Jota from Wolverhampton Wanderers for a fee in the region of £40 million really got tongues wagging though! The deal was rumoured then done in a matter of hours as fans of both clubs were wondering why? Why did Liverpool pay so much for a player Wolves fans call inconsistent and patchy? Why did Michael Edwards and the rest of the Liverpool transfer committee decide Jota was the one to be brought in?

Plenty of sporting sites are answering similar questions with the use of their analytics and analysis tools but here at Vibe I'll try and answer this question with Football Manager 2020 and some logic.

Who Is Diogo Jota?

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Diogo Jota is a 23 year old Portuguese international who started his professional career in Portugal before leaving for Atletico Madrid in 2016. However his time in the Spanish capital was brief as he soon returned to Portugal to play for FC Porto on loan which is when he met Liverpool's current assistant manager Pep Lijnders. Jota's next destination was to the Midlands of England as the left sided forward joined Wolverhampton Wanderers on loan before securing a £14m move to the side. Jota helped Wolves establish themselves as a solid Premier League club while also enjoying himself in Europe as his side reached the quarter finals of the Europa League losing to eventual winners Sevilla, which would be his last appearance for the club with Liverpool making their move.

How Diogo Jota Will Be Used At Liverpool?

Before we work out why Jota was identified as a suitable back up and possible successor to our current attackers I think it's important to look at how the player will be used at Liverpool. Firstly the versatility of Jota would have appealed to a manger like Klopp who has already shown a willingness to favour these types of players with examples like Milner and Oxlade-Chamberlain coming to mind of players Klopp trusts in multiple positions. Understandably I don't expect anything too wild positionally is planned for Jota but he easily can fit in on the right, left or even centrally which just adds options to the squad. Centrally however I see his opportunities limited as Firmino is obviously the first choice with the new addition Minamino seeming like his logical understudy. When we look at Jota's career though we can see the two footed winger likes playing on the left and cutting in into central areas, which is a tactic Liverpool utilise often as that's exactly how Mane and even Origi play that role. Another historical factor to consider for this being the plan for Jota is in Mane's first season at Liverpool the Senegalese international spent the majority of it as a right winger where he found massive success, he was only moved to the left to accommodate Salah.

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Now everything is starting to click into place as Jota will be the understudy to both wide players but I expect he'll stay almost exclusively on the left, as either Mane's direct replacement or if Salah is replaced and Mane moves to the right. Klopp has also shown a willingness to play Mane or Salah central at times so I could see these three on the pitch at the same time, especially if we're looking for pace which Firmino and Minamino don't really offer. As we have central cover in Minamino and since Mane is more than adequate cover for Salah on the right if he was ever unavailable I think it makes sense the club were looking for a versatile left winger who likes to cut inside. Liverpool have had massive issues in recent years of the backup players making us play a different way to how the first team do so looking for a similar player to how Mane plays could ensure we don't need to change our style due to personnel in the future.

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Searching For Mane 2.0
Attempt One

Using the in game search feature of FMM 2020 I searched for a player using the "template from own team" feature, with it obviously set to Mane.

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Results

As you can see this search brings up a high calibre of player with Mane and Salah both appearing. However it's common knowledge Liverpool are almost exclusively in the market for under 25 year olds which narrows this search even further leaving us with Leroy Sane and Nicolas Pepe. Pepe was a player Liverpool were heavily linked too last year before his move to Arsenal while Sane also recently completed a big money move, considering the fees spent here we need to downgrade our search slightly.

Attempt Two

For the second search i dropped each of the targeted attributes by 1 while also adding the age filter to show 19-25 year olds only.

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Another fine list of players of which are likely unavailable to Liverpool due to playing for rivals or for the fees involved, not may would be happy playing second fiddle to Mane or Salah either. I do find it interesting however that this search does bring more players to the table Liverpool are constantly linked with being Mbappe, Depay, Dembele and the already discussed Pepe.

Attempt Three

For this attempt I dropped the searched attributes to 15 and kept the age filter.

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This search brought more names to the table without really adding much. Jota still hasn't been found unfortunately but I find it interesting how this search includes Minamino and alot of older FMM wonder kids that never really made it to the heights FMM predicted like Gelson Martins, Keita Blade, Gerard Deulofeu and Inaki Williams.

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A New Plan

Okay this plan clearly isn't working as well as I hoped with Jota not appearing yet (he would have on the next search, his 14 Technique was the issue) so its time for a new plan.

Liverpool aren't looking for a ready made Mane replacement so it's not fair to be comparing a 27 year old Mane to a 22 year old Jota. Thanks to @samhardy I've been able to source a FMM16 screenshot of Sadio Mane so what would happen if I searched for a 23 year old Mane instead. We brought Mane to develop him in the hopes we could improve him so it makes sense Klopp and his team feel they can do the same with Jota.

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Attempt One

Surprisingly Mane was pretty special on FMM16 but I searched for his details with the 19-25 age filter on like I did previously.

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Okay not really surprising the results were limited but Mbappe is the only result.

Attempt Two

I keep the same criteria but drop the stats by one point each

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A couple more players come up this time but they're unattainable ones we've previously discussed or unproven.

Attempt Three

One more stat dropped across the board.

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Once again this search makes fascinating reading as it's full of wingers we've been repeatedly linked to like Sancho, Pulisic, Under, Dembele and Depay. Still no Jota though which is slightly disappointing.

Attempt Four

The final search saw the stats dropped again which brought up too many pages of results so I did also include a dark green AML tag just to limit the amount of screenshots I'd need.

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And there he is second from the top on the third page.

Premier League Proven Search Results

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Now we've found him I thought I'd also include the search with the in England filter selected as I think there is a benefit to being Premier League proven and settled in the country. To be honest the most surprising thing about this list has to be the combination of top Premier League players like Rashford, Martial, Jesus and Sterling and the mediocrity like Deulofeu, Redmond and Andreas Pereira. Let's hope Jota Will be a star at Anfield and not an expensive flop.

Conclusion

While I agree this may look like alot of leg work to find the player in question (damn his low technique, without that he'd have shown up earlier) I think it shows the method in the madness. Liverpool knew what they needed and they went out and found an attainable player for a reasonable price in the market. When you consider the fees paid for Dembele, Mbappe, Pepe, Sane and even Sterling Liverpool did incredibly well identifying Mane in the first place but by following that blue print they might have unearthed another such gem. Jota was signed for £40m which is somewhat reasonable, he's Premier League proven, settled in England, plays in the right style, versatile and very much looking like the Mane transfer all over again. That's alot for the young Portuguese man to live up to but if he follows the same road map as Mane we've got an absolute steal on our hands and Mane's long term successor.

As always thank you for reading and any comments would be appreciated. If this goes down well once 2021 is released i might do a part two looking at potential Salah replacements. Finally I'd like to thank @Ianfor his input. 

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Honestly I don’t see him playing on the wing that often. I kinda think he’ll play a lot more on striker with Mane and Salah currently looks undroppable 

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This is a great idea mate. Enjoyed reading it. With Klopp's man management skills and relentless training regimes, Jota will almost certainly develop into a fantastic player, while he was inconsistent at Wolves, I don't think he ever truly fitted the system Nuno wanted to play, he looked at his best playing in and around Jimenez, running onto knock ons or taking the ball to feet and playing quick one-twos with Jimenez. With the role Firmino has at Liverpool, I can see them working very well together with intricate short passes to unsettle and unlock defenses. 

 

I think yous have got a player with great potential there as backup to Bobby or Mane and he should settle in quickly to devastating effect. 

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2 hours ago, broodje kip said:

Honestly I don’t see him playing on the wing that often. I kinda think he’ll play a lot more on striker with Mane and Salah currently looks undroppable 

I think it's much more likely Minamino would cover for Firmino or Salah or Mane would go central as we've seen that plenty of times, we've even seen Firmino wide with Salah central when we're chasing a goal. 

I agree they're undroppable but it'll happen as it has too. We're essentially playing 2-3 games a week now until the end of the season so rotation will happen. The fact all members of our attack are fluid in each position is a massive positive but as a central striker I think Jota is down the pecking order. While I expect Origi is leaving he's also in contention as would Brewster but God knows what's going on with him ATM. 

44 minutes ago, Aaron Thornton said:

This is a great idea mate. Enjoyed reading it. With Klopp's man management skills and relentless training regimes, Jota will almost certainly develop into a fantastic player, while he was inconsistent at Wolves, I don't think he ever truly fitted the system Nuno wanted to play, he looked at his best playing in and around Jimenez, running onto knock ons or taking the ball to feet and playing quick one-twos with Jimenez. With the role Firmino has at Liverpool, I can see them working very well together with intricate short passes to unsettle and unlock defenses. 

 

I think yous have got a player with great potential there as backup to Bobby or Mane and he should settle in quickly to devastating effect. 

Thanks, this is the type of stuff I enjoy looking into but it's time consuming and inspiration is rare 😂

Mane was inconsistent at Southampton before Klopp got his hands on him, he'd score 4 goals in a row then go 8 without scoring and the like but in our system and with Klopp's guidance he's become the most effective left winger in the world imo. Mane isn't just a winger or an ISF he's basically every FMM AML role wrapped in one. If Jota can follow that blue print he's certainly got the ability to step up and form a decent partnership with the lads already there. 

A big factor I didn't consider until right now is how Jota and Robbo will work, we know Mane and Robbo compliment each other excellently and allow each other to excell so that's one partnership Jota will need to get to grips with quickly, that's likely more important than how he links with Firmino tbh.

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Nice article, I really enjoyed it.

The signing did come as a shock to me as it looked like we were interested in Sarr and then all of a sudden we’d more or less signed Jota. We seem to do our homework, find a few possible players, go in for one and if the price isn’t right we go for another option. It’s basic stuff really but we seem to be doing it so well recently. We went in for Jamal Lewis and weren’t willing to pay the £20m they wanted so left the negotiations. I’m guessing they thought we’d be back as did everybody else but then about a day later, we’d signed the left back from Olympiakos. I’m then sat there wondering whether this was the plan all along. Again, basic stuff but we seem to do it so well at the moment.

I can’t add much more than what’s already been said on Jota but he looks decent and it’s clear we’ve done our homework.

One thing that’s come to my mind from this in FMM terms is a feature that was on the full game the last time I played it. Say you’re searching for a BBM and you put in about 8 different attributes to search for. Well, there was a separate field so that you could with one click, select for just any 7 of the 8 to be correct if that makes sense. You could turn go down to 6 and so on. It could be handy that as there’s plenty of times you see players with just one attribute much lower than you’d like and they’d show much quicker this way. It would’ve helped with your technique problem here but not really sure it’s worthy of being added to the mobile game even though I can’t think it’d be hard to implement.

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8 hours ago, Seth Anacondas said:

Nice article. Seeing Ivan Cavaleiro in the final shortlist twice made me laugh, nowhere close to the quality required at Liverpool.

Yeah I think this type of exercise does bring questions to FMM stat spreads. Then again I suppose in many ways the stats just show they have the ability, they don't show they have the ability to put them to good use etc. It's an interesting topic for discussion that actually. 

5 hours ago, Ian said:

The signing did come as a shock to me as it looked like we were interested in Sarr and then all of a sudden we’d more or less signed Jota. We seem to do our homework, find a few possible players, go in for one and if the price isn’t right we go for another option. It’s basic stuff really but we seem to be doing it so well recently. We went in for Jamal Lewis and weren’t willing to pay the £20m they wanted so left the negotiations. I’m guessing they thought we’d be back as did everybody else but then about a day later, we’d signed the left back from Olympiakos. I’m then sat there wondering whether this was the plan all along. Again, basic stuff but we seem to do it so well at the moment.

Yeah I was taken completely by surprise mate, I just thought we were all in on Sarr. I suppose we did tell Werner to wait and he refused so I guess he was first choice then it's a toss up between who you believe we wanted more out of Jota or Sarr, hell some reports suggest we still want Sarr this window! I think Jota is the more well rounded and "finished" article though so I'm very excited to see how he fits in. I expect he'll start tomorrow with Minamino and who knows on the other wing/up front. 

5 hours ago, Ian said:

One thing that’s come to my mind from this in FMM terms is a feature that was on the full game the last time I played it. Say you’re searching for a BBM and you put in about 8 different attributes to search for. Well, there was a separate field so that you could with one click, select for just any 7 of the 8 to be correct if that makes sense. You could turn go down to 6 and so on. It could be handy that as there’s plenty of times you see players with just one attribute much lower than you’d like and they’d show much quicker this way. It would’ve helped with your technique problem here but not really sure it’s worthy of being added to the mobile game even though I can’t think it’d be hard to implement.

That sounds pretty ace actually! 

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@Ashez - what are your feelings now that we're into the season a bit and Jota's done pretty well (even sparked talk of taking Firmino's place though I think that unlikely)? Has it changed your thoughts above? Or confirmed them? Or something else? 

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9 hours ago, Scratch said:

@Ashez - what are your feelings now that we're into the season a bit and Jota's done pretty well (even sparked talk of taking Firmino's place though I think that unlikely)? Has it changed your thoughts above? Or confirmed them? Or something else? 

Obviously he's hit the ground running and been alot better than I expected. 

It looks like he's still trying to find his position as he's played across the front line, personally I'm not keen on him on the right but on the left or central he's looked impressive, I do like him wide more though so he can be more explosive and dribble at people. 

He's surprisingly quick and plays similarly to Mane and damn he's so two footed it's amazing to watch. 

As for Bobby? He's so out of form and confidence it's hard to know what to do with him. He was never been dropped for the City game but I think he does need a spell to recharge. He's ran himself into the ground for us for 3 seasons and it shows. 

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13 hours ago, Ashez said:

Obviously he's hit the ground running and been alot better than I expected. 

It looks like he's still trying to find his position as he's played across the front line, personally I'm not keen on him on the right but on the left or central he's looked impressive, I do like him wide more though so he can be more explosive and dribble at people. 

He's surprisingly quick and plays similarly to Mane and damn he's so two footed it's amazing to watch. 

As for Bobby? He's so out of form and confidence it's hard to know what to do with him. He was never been dropped for the City game but I think he does need a spell to recharge. He's ran himself into the ground for us for 3 seasons and it shows. 

Thanks! I generally only see highlights of Liverpool so it's hard to know what's actually happening (beyond the goals going in).

I did see an interview with Salah where he was asked about how Jota was going and whether Bobby might be dropped and he was very much "we are nothing without Bobby" and sort of said (politely without actually saying it) that Jota was going very well, but would only ever be the backup option. Very interesting to watch. I guess that reflects how much he and Mane have benefited from Bobby. 

Anyway it will be interesting to see how this plays out both in real life and in the game. I wonder if Jota will get an attribute increase in the game or if he is pretty close to right already. Also @Rob was talking about making his Liverpool Front Three challenge a Liverpool Front Four challenge, which would be pretty interesting - getting them all on the pitch at the same time (which I know has happened in real life in some games). 

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Bobby's a tough one as he's been so vital for us under Klopp but the last 6 months to a year he's really under performed. It took the fans a while to turn on him but it gets worse by the week, everyone knows I adore the lad but it's clear he's jaded. Obviously his game hasn't really been about the goals as he's more about the press and supporting the wide strikers but he's struggled even doing that of late. That combined with Jota hitting the ground running has really ramped up the pressure but personally I'm still happy for Bobby to start. I think Jota is more of an impact from the bench unlike Firmino who's not explosive enough for that role. 

Klopp trying all 4 verse City of all teams was intriguing though. Unfortunately it didn't lead to chances but it was exciting, they just got in each others way alot imo. But obviously that's something I'm looking forward to looking at on FMM in a 4231, 442, or 424. 

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