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Career A Bad Boys Goaltopia - COMPLETE

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Hi all, first up this isn’t to be confused with the Bad Boys from Brazil Challenge. This is a challenge using 3 players who have a bad boy reputation, perhaps mercurial talents who have never quite lived up to expectations or hype and have become journeymen in some respects. 
They are mid 20’s so I am going for a Goaltopia attempt as created by @Foxyas below, where the minimum target is 100 goals from each player. The players are also eligible for Foxy’s Peak Years Challenge and will be entered within that along with the uncapped and non striker category.


These are my choices, see if you can guess them before I reveal their names. 
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They are:

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Marcus Maddison

Maybe a tad harsh to include him (I wanted Nile Ranger but he’s no longer in the DB) but he’s currently without a club after burning his bridges at Peterborough. He’s now touting himself for a club over social media. 

Peterborough United chairman Darragh MacAnthony said Maddison caused him “nothing but heartache. I’ve signed a lot of talented players and with his ability he should’ve been playing a lot higher a lot quicker.

“We finally got him in a position where he’d had a great half of the season, we had serious money on the table and he basically gave me nothing but heartache and cost us money.

“That ripped the sh*t out of me because of the amount of crap I’d put up with for years. I’d gone to bat for him. I’d been there for him when he was low and I’d backed him. 

“I defended him against fans, defended him against previous managers. His ability should’ve got him a lot further but I don’t know when the penny will drop with Marcus.

“He’s not stupid but sometimes he does things when you think his IQ is in the single digits, but it’s not. He’s an enigma. He’s a strange kid. Sometimes he doesn’t realise it.”

Ravel Morrison

Rio Ferdinand recalled an occasion from his time at Manchester United, when Sir Alex Ferguson was enraptured by the talent of one of his young players. “Sir Alex Ferguson, I remember he called me and Wazza (Rooney) over one day and said ‘look at this kid, he’s better than you Rooney when you were a kid, he’s better than you Rio, better than Ryan Giggs when you were kids. This is the best kid you will ever see’.” It was high praise indeed from a manager not prone to hyperbole. The player he was referring to was Ravel Morrison. His career has since taken in Sweden, Italy, Mexico and he is now in Holland. Bundles of talent but unable to settle and apply that talent consistently. 

Saido Berahino

2 and a half years. That’s how long Saido Berahino once went without scoring a goal until he ended the drought in August 2018. He was called up for England in 2014 after showing prolific form for West Bromwich Albion, seemed to be linked with Spurs in every transfer window until he eventually signed for Stoke. A failed drugs test, demotion to the U23’s for disciplinary issues and a drink driving charge at Stoke caused his contract to be terminated. 

He is now at Zulte Waregem in Belgium and seems to be knuckling down and doing ok. 

So where do you send 3 guys like this? 
Amsterdam of course!

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A league I am yet to play in this year and an enjoyable club to manage. 

For the record here’s how our guys look upon signing for Ajax. 

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Thanks all for reading and hope to have the first season up this week. 

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This sounds very interesting mate, love the players you’ve gone for, I’ve used Maddison on previous years as he was always decent, haven’t used him on this one though. Good luck, look forward to seeing how you do 😁

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Love it Smog, great player choices, Ajax may need to compensate you in some way after managing these three at once 😂 I can't imagine the stress they'd cause a manager all at one club. 

 

Can't believe Saido is 25 already and Marcus with 7 Pace at 25 yrs old, wow! if he makes it to his early 30's, he'll be getting about the pitch with a zimmer frame and Ravel what a wasted talent he became, natural ability only gets you so far and this boy wouldn't put the work in to get to the top level, he should still have some development left in him, so you should get some good seasons from him

 

Anyway good luck with this and try to have fun while pulling your hair out 😂

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Well this will be a great career to follow, but I hope Ajax has a counsellor on hand to keep you from coming apart trying to manage this lot! You probably should have gone with a 4 striker system and added Balotelli to this circus, I mean what would you have to lose! 😄

Good luck mate...

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On 28/09/2020 at 20:59, RichDave32 said:

This sounds very interesting mate, love the players you’ve gone for, I’ve used Maddison on previous years as he was always decent, haven’t used him on this one though. Good luck, look forward to seeing how you do 😁

Thanks mate.

On 29/09/2020 at 02:08, Aaron Thornton said:

Love it Smog, great player choices, Ajax may need to compensate you in some way after managing these three at once 😂 I can't imagine the stress they'd cause a manager all at one club. 

 

Can't believe Saido is 25 already and Marcus with 7 Pace at 25 yrs old, wow! if he makes it to his early 30's, he'll be getting about the pitch with a zimmer frame and Ravel what a wasted talent he became, natural ability only gets you so far and this boy wouldn't put the work in to get to the top level, he should still have some development left in him, so you should get some good seasons from him

 

Anyway good luck with this and try to have fun while pulling your hair out 😂

Thanks mate and yeah that 7 pace is pretty brutal!

On 29/09/2020 at 13:54, Scratch said:

Well this will be a great career to follow, but I hope Ajax has a counsellor on hand to keep you from coming apart trying to manage this lot! You probably should have gone with a 4 striker system and added Balotelli to this circus, I mean what would you have to lose! 😄

Good luck mate...

Haha thanks mate, and I did consider Balotelli you know but in the end decided on these three been quite enough to handle!

On 29/09/2020 at 18:39, Foxy said:

What a great selection of players for this challenge and this is going to be really interesting to follow.

Thanks mate. 
 

On 29/09/2020 at 19:27, Ian said:

You may have your hands full with these guys 😂

Good luck.

Thanks mate. 

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Hi all, season 1 of our career with our troublesome trio and it didn’t take long to get some of these messages! I gave up screenshotting them after September as it was just getting ridiculous, sometimes their reaction was positive, but often it was negative. 

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These are our transfers, a mixture of summer and winter. In summer besides our trio we brought in usual suspects like Otero, Quintero and Scarpa. Spurs new boy Reguilon and McCrorie came in January. We are using the November DB. 
 

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On the pitch we bossed things domestically but in Europe, despite getting out of our CL group, we met Liverpool in the first KO round and that was that for us. 185 goals in 53 games across the season was a positive start. 

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A funny thing to note in the CL, we had some big wins in the qualifiers and this resulted in Maddison winning the golden boot come the end of the season. He ended up with 11 goals, the same as Salah and Lewandowski, but he got the award. Not bad for a player plucked from league 1!

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So, here’s how are guys look at the end of S1 and how they performed. The lack of discipline didn’t seem to affect performances too much and they also had quite a few positive attribute increases, so this all bears well for the following seasons. 
 

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A fantastic total of 110 goals and 67 assists across our three guys for season 1 is a great start! Berahino smashed in 42 goals but Morrison wasn’t far behind with 38 which is great coming from a treq role. Maddison contributed less but that is expected as he isn’t on any set pieces like the other two, he still notched a very decent 30 goals and 19 assists.

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Plenty to work with moving into season 2 and hopefully we will be able to progress further in Europe. Thanks for reading. 

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What a disruptive trio they are, deservedly fined haha. But what a performance on the pitch from all three, brilliant going Smog, you’ve got the best out of them, finally someone has! Who would have thought Maddison would get the golden boot 🤣  

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Double M picking up the CL golden boot, I think he can retire happy now. 

Great season mate, shame you drew Liverpool so early in the Knockout rounds. 

KUTGW. 

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Hopefully with all of the warnings and fines, you’ll eventually be able to turn them into model professionals.

They are certainly doing the business on the pitch though.

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On 03/10/2020 at 09:20, RichDave32 said:

What a disruptive trio they are, deservedly fined haha. But what a performance on the pitch from all three, brilliant going Smog, you’ve got the best out of them, finally someone has! Who would have thought Maddison would get the golden boot 🤣  

 

On 03/10/2020 at 12:32, Aaron Thornton said:

Double M picking up the CL golden boot, I think he can retire happy now. 

Great season mate, shame you drew Liverpool so early in the Knockout rounds. 

KUTGW. 

 

On 03/10/2020 at 13:50, Foxy said:

I love how much carnage these lads are causing round the club although you can’t fault what they are doing on the pitch tbf.

 

23 hours ago, Ian said:

Hopefully with all of the warnings and fines, you’ll eventually be able to turn them into model professionals.

They are certainly doing the business on the pitch though.

 

17 hours ago, Kanegan said:

A great start to this career. You have got hold on some real bad boys this time. 😀

Thanks all. They’re certainly interesting and challenging players to manage but they are performing well on the pitch so hopefully that continues. 

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Great start Smoggy! I fully expect that number to go up quite a bit in the second season too. As well as the normal bump from developing the team etc, like Ian said, they will end up professional if you keep on fining them. Worked for me with Andy Carroll. So they will be even better players by that point. Anyway, great stuff, keep it up...

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Thanks @Scratch

Season 2 was a lot smoother in terms of their discipline and warnings about training. Not quite sure why that is but I’m hoping it’s linked to their positive performances on the pitch. On the transfer front our main investment was £42m on Tonali, few squad players brought in and some unhappy ones left. 

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On the pitch again we were too strong domestically, however Europe was a mixed bag. We could only finish 3rd in our CL group but it did include Real, Bayern and Porto and we put up a good fight and only missed out by a point. On the plus side we had a nice run to the EL final, before unfortunately losing out to Dortmund in extra time. 
Please make sure you check out the last screenshot for one of my favourite comebacks in this years game!

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Here’s how our trio look attributes wise and how they performed. Berahino is getting better and better, Morrison is still improving too but little change from Maddison. Can’t seem to get that pace increased!
 

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So Berahino is smashing them in with a fantastic 61 goals! Morrison scored the same but notched 8 more assists, however he did play 8 games more this season with the EL run. Maddison unfortunately is proving difficult to improve on, he scored 13 goals less this season when I was hoping for an increase. As I mentioned he’s not on any set pieces so his stats suffer for that but I was still hoping for more after the first season from him. 

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Thanks for reading. 

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Great stuff again Smog, they are doing the business for you. Shame Maddison couldn’t repeat this golden boot heroics the year before, but there bad boys for a reason, never know what you’re going to get. Great job 😁

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Good stuff mate. I heard these were bad boys, but obviously they'd just never played for a real manager before! 😄

All going great except for Maddison underperforming a bit. Hope he comes good for you next season.

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On 09/10/2020 at 18:28, RichDave32 said:

Great stuff again Smog, they are doing the business for you. Shame Maddison couldn’t repeat this golden boot heroics the year before, but there bad boys for a reason, never know what you’re going to get. Great job 😁

 

17 hours ago, Scratch said:

Good stuff mate. I heard these were bad boys, but obviously they'd just never played for a real manager before! 😄

All going great except for Maddison underperforming a bit. Hope he comes good for you next season.

 

15 hours ago, Ian said:

Another nice season, well done.

 

4 hours ago, Kanegan said:

Great season again. 

Thanks all. Maddison is a struggle. I keep tweaking his role but it seems to affect the output from the other two. So at the minute although his personal contribution is low, his value to the tactic is fairly crucial. 

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Season 3 didn’t see a great deal of money spent on transfers, mainly bosmans which are so easy to pick up quality players a few seasons in. 
 

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This season was particularly special as we notched a clean sweep of trophies. We rode our luck at times in the KO stages of the CL but come the final we were fantastic and it was great to see each of my trio score. 
 

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This season was also notable for Berahino getting in the world team of the year and another fantastic comeback victory against a big opponent. 
 

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Here’s how our guys attributes are looking and how their seasons went. Morrison’s attributes took an alarming dive for some reason, he’s actually been training well too so no idea on that one. 
 

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Pretty consistent, slight decrease on last season but overall I’m fairly happy. I don’t think they’re going to hit the biggest heights due to their qualities but you never know, it would be nice to get 120+ from them. 

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Thanks for reading. 

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On 15/10/2020 at 22:07, RaphaëlJ12 said:

Sorry to bother could u tell me the tactics used on this challenge, thank u in advance sir. 

I will do when I complete, which will be after season 5. 
 

On 15/10/2020 at 22:21, Foxy said:

You’ve really whipped these trouble makers into shape and there doing great.

Thanks mate. 

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Season 4 was World Cup year so we had that long break and then a pile up of fixtures in the second half of the season. 
 

I’m really happy with the squad so didn’t splash out on anyone, just a few more Bosmans to supplement some positions. 

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We had the extra game in the Super Cup which we won, only a defeat to Real Madrid in the CL semis prevented a clean sweep. 
 

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Our guys are now close to or hitting 30 but we’re still seeing a few attribute increases and no sign of serious decline as yet. 

Spoiler

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The bizarre thing this season was the incredible amount of goals from Morrison! No changes or tweaks to anything so no particular explanation. Unfortunately it didn’t result in more goals as we were again fairly consistent with previous seasons, it was Berahino who saw a decrease in his goal output. 
Im going to call this career a day after season 5 so one more to go and see how our guys end up.

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Thanks for reading. 

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Quality season again Smog, amazing how many goals there getting between them and Morrison absolutely smashed that out of the park, good luck in your last season 👍

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