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George Traistă

Career Spanish Armada - Triple Threat Challenge [Complete]

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After my Rogerio Ceni Challenge I had to take on something different, something... and I saw how nice of a career @RichDave32had on his Triple Threat with PSG and made me wonder if I can do it. The problem is that I've never ever played with 3 strikers. I have developed two tactics with two strikers, one with two strikers and one shadow striker, one tactic with one striker but never with a front three.

And because I don't look at the tactic index and I like to develop my own tactics, the first and big part of this challenge is to create one working tactic using 3 strikers...

 

As the title implies, I will take this challenge to Spain, Barcelona... not FC Barcelona as I never start with a club above 3.5 stars rating, so Espanyol Barcelona it is!!

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Because I want to manage the trio also at the National Team sometime in the future, I have chosen 3 players from the same nation... 3 strikers that are not natural strikers :))

1. Pedri ,is the only one from these 3 that I had him before. It was in my last career and he developed into a world class winger.

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2. Ansu Fati,a hot prospect right now that is Inside Forward natural but can also play as a striker.

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3. Carlos Alvarez, the youngest from the lot and the weakest with only 3.5 stars potential, also not a natural striker.

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There are 2-3 better players than Alvarez that are 16-17 years  but they have few "problems": one has Spanish as second nationality so most likely will be drafted for other NT until, and if ever, I will be Spain manager; one from Lazio will not sign; and one is almost 18, so 2 years older than Carlos Alvarez.

 

That being said, I will get soon with the first update. All comments and more than  welcomed, thanks!

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Good player choices mate, looking forward to this. You'll have a frustrating, long and enjoyable time with this one. 

How did you get Fati and Pedri to jump ship to arch rivals? 

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6 hours ago, Aaron Thornton said:

Good player choices mate, looking forward to this. You'll have a frustrating, long and enjoyable time with this one. 

How did you get Fati and Pedri to jump ship to arch rivals?

I must confess that I had to start the game 3 times as Fati didn't want to sign. 

With Pedri is easy, he has a release fee in the contract of 34.5 or 35 million (weird that in two games was 35m and in one is 34.5) and even that he asked wage is 110 he signs for 45-50k.

On Fati, the scouts states that he is interested every time but he won't sign "at this moment". And I want him before our first official game. On the third game he signed right away, he asked for 55k and he was OK with 20k.

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Good luck mate, I really enjoyed my triple threat game, really enjoyable, I like the choice of players and the team you’ve gone, look forward to seeing how you get on😁

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Yeah good luck mate, like the others have said a TT is very enjoyable (but sometimes frustrating!). 🙂

Like your choice of player. Fati and Pedri will score a bucket load and hopefully Alvarez will too. Good luck! 

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Good luck mate. Didn't follow ur TT post that much but will be following this one. 

Player choice 👍 but kinda sad that signed for our arch rival, not a true culés 😜 (especially Pedri Gonzalez)

Will you be trying 3-4-3 formation or something like 4-3-3 ?

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@RichDave32@Nick11 @Scratchand @Ian Thanks a lot, I will need a bucket load of luck with this... because:

Season 1 - The fail

As I love too much to play with Inside forwards the first versions of the tactic had inside forwards but I soon realized that they will score goals that I want to be scored by my young strikers so I've changed, and changed, and changed again... as I was fully concentrated making my tactic work on the front I kind of neglected the defense and the board didn't like it and even if I did try to work, the last few games were fatal and I got kicked out.

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The good part is that we had the best offence in the league, the bad part is that we had the worst defense in the league. Still 12 games to achieve mid table finish as the season expectations were...

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All matches

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No, I take my words back, the bad part is that I need to go to step one, making Fati sign... I now started the game 9 times and no luck. I got him 3 times on loan but even after half a season he didn't want to sign so I need to keep on starting games and maybe I will get the luck again and Fati would sign, my god this guy is stubborn.

 

Back to the 60% season that I had, 57 goals total from these 3 players in 42 games, and none of them they got more than 65 minutes on the pitch, in fact there were few games that they got 0 minutes... poor stamina! They are young, the squad was young as 6 out of 10 field players were under 19, 3 under 23 and only one was over 25 (he was 26), so I think the team had potential, the manager was an Idiot maybe :D

Fati

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Pedri

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Alvarez

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@Nick11, I have created few tactics but the most effective was 2 central defenders (on NCB and one CD), 2 wing backs, one CM (box to box), 2 wingers and 3 in line stikers (one CF, one TM and one P)

 

Thanks all for your support and comments, I will try again few times to sign Fati... or quit? What do you think?

 

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Ohh so unlucky mate, was always going to be tough whilst using a smaller club like Espanyol, such a shame as well as the players were doing really well. I say try again as I think once one season is done it gets easier, but I’m behind whatever you go for 😁

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2 minutes ago, Aaron Thornton said:

The sacking seemed very harsh, what was their expectations? They didn't appreciate goals galore 🤷‍♂️

Mid-table finish. I don't understand their decision but... what can I do?

 

3 minutes ago, RichDave32 said:

Ohh so unlucky mate, was always going to be tough whilst using a smaller club like Espanyol, such a shame as well as the players were doing really well. I say try again as I think once one season is done it gets easier, but I’m behind whatever you go for 😁

Well, I will never play with big clubs so... I and liked Espanyol that they have EURO Cup matches from the first season and very good training facilities, I would say is the perfect club for me. Yes, the players were really good, 57 goals, and I think they could have done maybe 70 goals in the first season with this young squad 

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Ouch! Sorry to hear that. Hope you get it started again, or find a different club somewhere that are big enough to attract him, but not too big for you to want to play them. Can be tricky getting it all lined up (one of the reasons I've gone big clubs for my last couple of saves). 

Looks like they were doing pretty good for the first season (which is always hard with 3 youngsters), so it's a shame the board didn't trust you more. But yeah, IFs are not a good choice for most goal scoring careers... Anyway good luck with the next career, whether it's this or something else.

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Quick update.

I did managed to sign Fati and it took me around 20-25 games to start. In one game I've signed his brother that also play for Barcelona B and is his favorite person and he finally asked for a salary but it was huge and I could not afford it... sold more players and then he didn't want to sign, again! 

But in the end I've managed to get him only to see that him and Pedri have "development has plateaud" right from the start. I'm in January and they are still like that and not only that, Alvarez is like that from October and in total I have 8 youngsters from my first 23 with the same problem, they need to mature... I hope is not a bug of some sort, only one wonderkid has not plateaued. 

I will finish the season today or tomorrow am d I will be back with updates. 

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The 'development had plateuaed' training report is annoying sometimes especially when doing a career like this one, but overall I think them bringing it in made the game just a bit harder, as it now basically stops you buying a 16/17 year old Wonderkid and fully developing him into a world class player in 2/3 seasons, there is still exceptions.

I've never had 8 youngsters all plateau at the same time, maybe that is a bug but I doubt it, could just be the level of your club and their age of course, facilities maybe also. 

Anyway glad to hear your back on track and I respect that your doing with Espanyol rather than going big

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12 minutes ago, Aaron Thornton said:

The 'development had plateuaed' training report is annoying sometimes especially when doing a career like this one, but overall I think them bringing it in made the game just a bit harder, as it now basically stops you buying a 16/17 year old Wonderkid and fully developing him into a world class player in 2/3 seasons, there is still exceptions.

I've never had 8 youngsters all plateau at the same time, maybe that is a bug but I doubt it, could just be the level of your club and their age of course, facilities maybe also. 

Anyway glad to hear your back on track and I respect that your doing with Espanyol rather than going big

I think I went overboard and bought too many youngsters and maybe that's the problem... or I hope that. The facilities are Superb and the staff all silver and gold. I will sell 2-3 youngsters at the end of the season and bring some 25-35 years old, maybe that will do the trick.

 

For me is no point in doing it with a big club, there are few things that I keep consistent like attribute masking, 3.5 stars max club, never buy a player because you know how it will develop, I'm always send scouts, I don't use search player tab to filter players, etc.

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That is frustrating mate, hopefully that gets sorted for you! Must have been annoying trying so many times to get Fati, glad you finally got him though and good luck with the rest of the season. You have definitely got me wanting to start my next challenge with a smaller club 😁

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13 minutes ago, RichDave32 said:

That is frustrating mate, hopefully that gets sorted for you! Must have been annoying trying so many times to get Fati, glad you finally got him though and good luck with the rest of the season. You have definitely got me wanting to start my next challenge with a smaller club 😁

@Foxy wrote a article earlier this year about how you can play FMM as close as you can to reality and I think it sums pretty well how I play because I want to have an extra challenge no matter what type of game I play (career or challenge) and in the end, you will get satisfaction even if you don't win nothing in the first few seasons, you see the progress right from the beginning and that's beautiful.

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2 hours ago, George Traistă said:
2 hours ago, George Traistă said:

@Foxy wrote a article earlier this year about how you can play FMM as close as you can to reality and I think it sums pretty well how I play because I want to have an extra challenge no matter what type of game I play (career or challenge) and in the end, you will get satisfaction even if you don't win nothing in the first few seasons, you see the progress right from the beginning and that's beautiful.

Where can i find that ??

Okay ..i found it.

Sorry 😬

 

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Good stuff, look forward to seeing how you go.

The development has plateaued thing is frustrating, especially as it's so obvious (just gotta wait until their birthday), but I do like them slowing down youngsters' development as it used to be over the top. These days, top players keep developing right up until they're 26 or 27 (but most of it happens when they are younger), which seems more reasonable than them being fully developed by 19. 

I tend to avoid the 15 to 17 age range as result. 18 and even 19 can still hit this, but when they are real young you can get that message, wait until their birthday, then get an immediate update, followed by them being immediately plateaued again until their next birthday. 🤦‍♂️

But for a long career, yeah sometimes you gotta go young and just play through this... 

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11 hours ago, Scratch said:

Good stuff, look forward to seeing how you go.

The development has plateaued thing is frustrating, especially as it's so obvious (just gotta wait until their birthday), but I do like them slowing down youngsters' development as it used to be over the top. These days, top players keep developing right up until they're 26 or 27 (but most of it happens when they are younger), which seems more reasonable than them being fully developed by 19. 

I tend to avoid the 15 to 17 age range as result. 18 and even 19 can still hit this, but when they are real young you can get that message, wait until their birthday, then get an immediate update, followed by them being immediately plateaued again until their next birthday. 🤦‍♂️

But for a long career, yeah sometimes you gotta go young and just play through this... 

Usually I buy 2, 3 max 4 players of 16-18 (or even 19 but not that often) years old per season in the first 2 or 3 seasons so they have time to develop until the next batch comes in and I get the "development has plateaued" very rare. Now that this challenge is to have 3 strikers to score a big score of goals I thought that I will sign 3 strikers plus those 2-4... Espanyol already had 2 and voila, 10 players under 21 with great potential... and it seams the game won't let you have that much at once.

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· Posted (edited)

Season 1, version 2

On the last update I was in January and because the transfer window was still open I had the idea to sign some veteran players, for 3 reasons:

1. Maybe some of the young player will exit the "development has plateaued" phase,

2. Use them to mentor younger players,

3. Use them as backup.

My luck is that my scouts are always busy because I send them all around the world and I found some familiar names and with just little money I signed 4 players, Lux (GK), Adriano (DL), Tevez (AMC) and Honda (AMR) and the trick worked... 3 out of 8 youngster exited that phase, one of which is Ansu Fati. I hope some others will follow next season or I must sell or loan them.

 

so, transfers

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Competition wise, the bad and good things remained in La Liga, we had the second best offence (on par with Barcelona and just 3 goals less than Real) but also the worst defense... we finished 13 so kind of mid table.1675863418_compprimera.thumb.png.fc9351530f393f9fe77a03fbaa39b634.png

 

In the Spanish Cup we lost in the 5th round, so quarterfinals, against Sevilla

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And in EURO Cup.... we won it! 23 games from start to finish as we had to battle in the qualifiers from the second round. Cork City, Luzen and PSV in the qualifiers. Brondby, Ludogorets and AZ in the group stage and in the knockout stages we have eliminated one by one Dynamo Kyiv, Benfica, Wolfsburg and Arsenal to battle with Porto in the final. Next year we will compete in the Champions League and will be a lot harder and less goals... around 30-35% of our goals came from EURO Cup.

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All mathces

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Some awards for the players

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And now, the players.

Fati is now "un-plateaued" and looks way better, Alvarez had 3 and half monts to develop and looks semi-decent and Pedri look bad bad bad, he didn't develop at all, maybe he added 1 point on 2 or 3 attributes.

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None of them didn't get more than 60-70 minutes per game. In the last few games Alvarez got around 75-80 minutes per game.

 

Fati, only one minor injury

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Alvarez, the same, only one minor injury

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Pedri, clean, just like on the start of the season :))

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Next season I must find a solution for the bad defense, maybe another tactic, and something for the plateaued issue.

Thanks all for your support and comments!

 

 

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Great start mate, especially for strikers so young! They will be scary good in a few years. Just need to patch up the defence, keep building the player quality and this will go great!

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7 hours ago, Scratch said:

Great start mate, especially for strikers so young! They will be scary good in a few years. Just need to patch up the defence, keep building the player quality and this will go great!

Thaks. I've changed the tactic all together with bringing few players.

Small update, I'm in April and I have a biiiiiig problem, Pedri wants to leave the club... I've tried from August to get new contract for the trio: Alvarez signed right away, Fati signed after many atempts just in February and Pedri No, he wants to leave the club.... Help!? 

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Might just have to soldier on with him unhappy for a while, if hes got plenty of years left on his contract then you should be OK, praise him after good performances and stuff to keep his morale high cause in theory if he's happier he might be more inclined to discuss a new contract 

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35 minutes ago, George Traistă said:

Thaks. I've changed the tactic all together with bringing few players.

Small update, I'm in April and I have a biiiiiig problem, Pedri wants to leave the club... I've tried from August to get new contract for the trio: Alvarez signed right away, Fati signed after many atempts just in February and Pedri No, he wants to leave the club.... Help!? 

This has happened to me with Haaland on my current game and it came down to the last 6 months and then he signed a new deal, if he’s got a few years left on it, you should be fine, once you keep winning and improving he should be happier.

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I would say once he has 6 months left or even 3 as long nobody gets him ona bosman, he will discuss a contract then, I've had it with Haaland in the past as well, you should be OK, I'll keep my 🤞for you. 

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Yeah, I've had it too, it's even gone down until the final days before my striker was happy to re-sign. I've heard of other people who've had the striker leave and then resigned them / rebought them. But normally it doesn't come to that and they re-sign sometime in the last 6 months.

Good luck!

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@Aaron Thornton and @Scratch

The season is done and I just got a offer from Juve and Bayern for him. I saved the game and closed. I did something in the past with a polish striker, I have accepted the offer and when it was time to go I hit cancel of the transfer and worked... meybe I will do the same... Jost got my new phone so I will take some time off and think. .. Until tomorrow 😂

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