Help I can't upgrade training facilities

[JoracaJorarz]

Does anybody know why can't I upgrade the training facilities? I'm managing Tambov in the first division of Russia, I complied the targets of directives in three seasons my reputation now is excellent. At present I reached over 1.500.000 on my finances but some time ago I had more and they keep denying it because the "economical situation of the club". Now the training facilites of the club are "basics" so upgrade them it should not be much expensive. I'm trying since the first season and I need it because my players need something else to continue their developments. Thank you!

[Rich]

I’ve found with smaller clubs, until I start performing in European competitions they don’t seem to want to update the facilities which can be quite frustrating.

[JoracaJorarz]

2 hours ago, RichD said:

I’ve found with smaller clubs, until I start performing in European competitions they don’t seem to want to update the facilities which can be quite frustrating.

Yes it is. I think the same but I use to manage small clubs and I found FM21 much more difficult for the directive to accept you the proposals on the meetings. Maybe another way might be earning a good quantity of money by a sale or something. Thanks!

[Mr Tree]

I've actually found "leveling up" really easy in Scotland - I've just taken a club from Poor-Poor through to Good training facilities now in the Scottish second tier. We've never had much money but as soon as we get some, i ask. 

One thing I've found, which doesn't sound like your issue but worth mentioning, is that they won't let Training facilities develop too far ahead of Youth facilities - i don't care about the Youth cos i plan to move on soon, but they need to stay roughly in line, one can't be three levels ahead of the other...

[Rob]

I’m convinced your staff standards are linked, so make sure you keep them as good as you can too.

[JoracaJorarz]

On 21/12/2020 at 04:49, Mr Tree said:

I've actually found "leveling up" really easy in Scotland - I've just taken a club from Poor-Poor through to Good training facilities now in the Scottish second tier. We've never had much money but as soon as we get some, i ask. 

One thing I've found, which doesn't sound like your issue but worth mentioning, is that they won't let Training facilities develop too far ahead of Youth facilities - i don't care about the Youth cos i plan to move on soon, but they need to stay roughly in line, one can't be three levels ahead of the other...

Really? This year on FM20 I had a game with Stranraer in 4th division of Scotland and it was really really hard to improve the facilities because even though I was doing it fine in the league my incomes were too low at that level and this it got worst with the wages season after season. Then I promote to second tier but even at that point I didn't have a big change on my incomes. It was the first time I decided to manage a semi-professional club and even if the challange of make it professional is interesting I found it too hard because of that.

[JoracaJorarz]

On 21/12/2020 at 05:39, Rob said:

I’m convinced your staff standards are linked, so make sure you keep them as good as you can too.

Thanks! It's a good point! that's imply their studying levels of preparation or you mean their abilities?

[Mr Tree]

5 hours ago, JoracaJorarz said:

Really? This year on FM20 I had a game with Stranraer in 4th division of Scotland and it was really really hard to improve the facilities because even though I was doing it fine in the league my incomes were too low at that level and this it got worst with the wages season after season. Then I promote to second tier but even at that point I didn't have a big change on my incomes. It was the first time I decided to manage a semi-professional club and even if the challange of make it professional is interesting I found it too hard because of that.

Definitely - I've been slowly building money and spending it on facilities or coaches when possible. Most signings are free or loan. You can see my progress on my career post

[Mr Tree]

Just sold a player for £5.5m, so invested again - from Poor facilities 3.5yrs ago, we are now at Impressive. So the simple solution is, move to Scotland 🙃

[Pharel]

On a smaller club i manage, i need to sold some player with high price to impress the board to improve the facilities, instead of doing good and being promoted in league.

[Mr Tree]

7 minutes ago, Pharel said:

On a smaller club i manage, i need to sold some player with high price to impress the board to improve the facilities, instead of doing good and being promoted in league.

A healthy balance of both really, isn't it?

[George Traistă]

The first thing I do when I take over a club is to make sure I have only natural staff and I spend my money on their badges instead of players and the board will always improve my facilities when the money is there 

Edited January 27, 2021 by George Traistă

[Pharel]

13 hours ago, Mr Tree said:

A healthy balance of both really, isn't it?

A quite balance i think, since my carrer on that club wont last for two seasons or so or maybe less because of getting sacked.

I mean you need bravely battle some kind of situation with over budget wage but no support to improve facilities from the board.

Not to mention lower league on germany for example have higher pressure from england. 

In terms gap of player  attribute and higher intensity of match.

[broodje kip]

2 hours ago, Pharel said:

A quite balance i think, since my carrer on that club wont last for two seasons or so or maybe less because of getting sacked.

I mean you need bravely battle some kind of situation with over budget wage but no support to improve facilities from the board.

Not to mention lower league on germany for example have higher pressure from england. 

In terms gap of player  attribute and higher intensity of match.

Tbh Germany lower leagues are a lot easier than England since they got only 3 leagues available to load. 

Edited January 28, 2021 by broodje kip

[Mr Tree]

5 hours ago, Pharel said:

I mean you need bravely battle some kind of situation with over budget wage but no support to improve facilities from the board.

Well yeah, cos you're already spending more than they have, so they can afford to invest further (to increase facilities). You've got to remember, these are the clubs that are generally owned by a local businessman, who has some funds but not a limitless amount. 

One of the first steps, i find, is to get a player to blossom so that you can sell him and reinvest that money into the club. It's hard to say goodbye sometimes, but that's life