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What If: 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 England was a Premier League Team?  

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  1. 1. What If: 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 the England men’s national team was a Premier League Team, what league position would they finish in?!

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    • 5th-7th / Euro Cup Places
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    • 8th-10th / Top Half of the Table
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WHAT IF: 
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 England was a Premier League Team?

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Using the editor, I’ve added England’s 26 man squad (for the 2020 Euros) into the English premier league (replacing Norwich) + will simulate the season to see how Kane, Henderson + the team perform! 

Where will they finish in the league? Are they a Man City / Liverpool ... or an Everton / Southampton?! 

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The Squad

Plenty of attacking talent + four great right full-backs - but lacking both in central defence and goalkeeper positions. 

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This was the England national team who got the final of Euro 2020 (played in 2021) - lined up in an approximation of how they started the first group game (from memory) - but how will they line up in FMM?

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The Setup

Replacing Norwich, this new England club side now play at Wembley with the highest reputation * facilities.

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As Kane, Grealish, Sancho etc have been transferred (edited) to this England club team, it means the other club sides (Man City, etc) are weaker as they don’t have these players anymore.

Note - any player sales / purchases will be reversed with the editor. 
 

The Manager

Just makes it into FMM22’s top 50 managers in the hall of fame. Gareth Southgate is a good manager, but can he compete with the likes of Guardiola + Klopp?!

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Answer in the Poll above - should they win the title, or struggle in mid-table - where do YOU think England should finish?!

 

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I'm sure you'd lead them to the title pretty easily Dan but I think Gareth will only make it to the Champions League places... be interesting to see how it turns out.

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WHAT IF: 
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 England was a Premier League Team?

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SQUAD DYNAMICS
Before installing Southgate as manager, I holidayed forwarded to Jan 1st to check out the squad dynamics.

Three A’s tick + two F’s 🔻 ... huh. That’s pretty extreme.

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It’s a close-nit squad with the players split into two social groups - with no one in the outsider “other” category!

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Surprisingly the squad has “no leaders” - which is a surprise given captain Kane importance + vice-captain Henderson’s leadership.

NEXT
We simulate up January + see how the 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 England team are performing! How good / bad do you think they are?!
 

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Not the best of starts ... 

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That’s right. “England” are not in the screenshot - so after six games, they’re not in the top 9 teams. Oh dear.

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WHAT IF: 
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 England was a Premier League Team?

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3rd?

Jan 1st. Half-way through the season and the 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 England team have climbed back into the top 4. Their goals scored doesn’t look great though - considering the attacking talent. 
 

League Leaders

Did you notice Man City with a 12 point lead - how?!

Spoiler

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Man City lost FIVE of their players to our England side - so I didn’t expect them to be this dominant above us.

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They’ve been sharing the goals around - their whole team is playing well (except Gabriel Jesus).  
 

 
Back to England 

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Nice to see full-back Reece James winning awards. With four right-backs in the squad, it seems ... oh ... OH ... really?

Spoiler

England are playing James at DMC, instead of Rice / Henderson / Phillips.

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WOW.

 
Our Squad Stats

As you’d expect - Kane is our main (only?) source of goals. Foden is providing more assists than anyone else - but it’s not a lot.

Bizarrely, Pickford was playing very well in goal, but poor-performer Henderson is Southgate’s first choice keeper! 

Spoiler

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We will simulate to the end-season. Does this change where you think the team will finish? 
 

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4 hours ago, vizardjr said:

I'm also wanna see Spanish National Team in LaLiga Santander 😅

That’s an interesting idea!

I’m wondering whether to do Scotland in the English premier league ... Spain / France / Italy / German in the English premier league ... or something like you said, Spain in the Spanish league.

Suggestions + opinions welcomed!

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Expert Predictions

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“Top 4” is the dominant prediction from a panel of footballing experts from the firm ‘Vibe consultancy’.

While some feel that is overly optimistic of the 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 England club side, with top 7 a more realistic outcome - there were two (truly optimistic) panelists who think the title is coming home! 

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WHAT IF: 
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 England was a Premier League Team?

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Is it coming home? Can 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 England win the league, or do they drop dramatically down the table?
 

The League
June 1st...

Spoiler

4th?!

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With one game remaining, there was a 10 point gap between England + the title winner, with another 10+ gap between England and 5th place.

So England were a solid top 4 side during this season. 
 


The Cups

Spoiler

Final #1

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Final #2

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Woohoo - an FA Cup win! 🏆 

 
The Squad

Spoiler

See the reliance on Kane’s goals!

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Here’s the full squad’s stats:

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SUMMARY

You were right. Our Vibe panel of experts correctly forecast that 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 England finishes in the top 4.

That’s in addition to TWO Wembley cup finals + one FA Cup Win 🏆.

Well done Gareth Southgate. Now you’ve just got to find a backup for Kane ... 🙂 
 

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On 20/03/2022 at 06:23, DanEnglish said:

WHAT IF: 
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 England was a Premier League Team?

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SQUAD DYNAMICS
Before installing Southgate as manager, I holidayed forwarded to Jan 1st to check out the squad dynamics.

Three A’s tick + two F’s 🔻 ... huh. That’s pretty extreme.

C55E543B-28B5-4F90-A409-AE015096F152.thumb.png.0d079021c73f6238f233b1b618985efa.png

It’s a close-nit squad with the players split into two social groups - with no one in the outsider “other” category!

14342405-A060-4640-B27D-9DE0252831E9.thumb.png.75fe0e14c3e1146240f9f5867a10e0a9.png

Surprisingly the squad has “no leaders” - which is a surprise given captain Kane importance + vice-captain Henderson’s leadership.

NEXT
We simulate up January + see how the 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 England team are performing! How good / bad do you think they are?!
 

Well you can't have Sterling, Rashford, and Chilwell and expect good morale and loyalty.

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