Career 3KC For Šeško? Let’s Go!! [Complete]

[JamesVilla]

@Scratch out of interest mate, which leagues do you load? Always struggled to pick them when I manage in a ‘smaller’ league and usually just end up with the big 4/5 anyway. 

[Dai_]

5 minutes ago, Rob said:

2.72 goals per game by my calcs. So another 18 and a bit seasons assuming that run rate is maintained… which you should eclipse for a good chunk of those.

This is brilliant!

I've told him it can't be done. Especially without International goals but he's making a believer out of me!

[broodje kip]

3 hours ago, Dai_ said:

I've told him it can't be done. Especially without International goals but he's making a believer out of me!

It seems possible to me. 

[Scratch]

8 hours ago, mannezz said:

what leauge you choose at  start of the savee bro ? 

Scotland (so I can play Celtic) and England (to stop there being free English wonderkids that should be in EPL reserve teams).

[Scratch]

5 hours ago, JamesVilla said:

@Scratch out of interest mate, which leagues do you load? Always struggled to pick them when I manage in a ‘smaller’ league and usually just end up with the big 4/5 anyway. 

Popular question today. As per previous answer:

Scotland (so I can play Celtic) and England (to stop there being free English wonderkids that should be in EPL reserve teams).

I generally load as few leagues as possible, just to keep it slightly faster. That said with Scotland you can run out of Gold staff unless you have a second league loaded, so it's probably worth having at least 2.

Spain is worth a shout because you can get some wonderkids dirt cheap with the release clauses there, but work permits can be a problem and the best youngsters will be in the game even if you don't load Spain, so I don't normally bother. For eg, no need to load Spain to get this guy for a couple of million:

In fact, that's a good reason not to load more leagues that you absolutely need. If you have Spain loaded then there will be a lot of Spanish youngsters, some great, some not so great. If you don't load Spain, then the chances are that any Spanish youngsters in the game are fairly good (the bad ones don't make it in). 

I do sometimes load Italy because I seem to have a thing for Italian players and there are some I use that you can't get without Italy loaded - but in that case I know exactly which ones I want anyway, I'm not targeting random Italian youngsters.

I know some people have a second bigger league they can switch to if their player gets sick of being a massive fish in a muddy puddle, jumping from Celtic to Barca for eg, but I've never needed to do that. I'm at Celtic until this ends!

[Scratch]

5 hours ago, Rob said:

2.72 goals per game by my calcs. So another 18 and a bit seasons assuming that run rate is maintained… which you should eclipse for a good chunk of those.

This is brilliant!

Yeah, I'm aiming for 3 per game for the next 10 seasons or so. Hopefully slightly more, but 3 is the minimum average to have a realistic shot. Injuries are the problem though - lost him for 3 weeks in Season 4 and was a little slow coming back, but into the swing of things now. 

[Scratch]

5 hours ago, Dai_ said:

I've told him it can't be done. Especially without International goals but he's making a believer out of me!

I still don't quite believe, but not sure I disbelieve anymore either.

We're just taking it a game at a time.  

[JamesVilla]

3 minutes ago, Scratch said:

Popular question today. As per previous answer:

Scotland (so I can play Celtic) and England (to stop there being free English wonderkids that should be in EPL reserve teams).

I generally load as few leagues as possible, just to keep it slightly faster. That said with Scotland you can run out of Gold staff unless you have a second league loaded, so it's probably worth having at least 2.

Spain is worth a shout because you can get some wonderkids dirt cheap with the release clauses there, but work permits can be a problem and the best youngsters will be in the game even if you don't load Spain, so I don't normally bother. For eg, no need to load Spain to get this guy for a couple of million:

In fact, that's a good reason not to load more leagues that you absolutely need. If you have Spain loaded then there will be a lot of Spanish youngsters, some great, some not so great. If you don't load Spain, then the chances are that any Spanish youngsters in the game are fairly good (the bad ones don't make it in). 

I do sometimes load Italy because I seem to have a thing for Italian players and there are some I use that you can't get without Italy loaded - but in that case I know exactly which ones I want anyway, I'm not targeting random Italian youngsters.

I know some people have a second bigger league they can switch to if their player gets sick of being a massive fish in a muddy puddle, jumping from Celtic to Barca for eg, but I've never needed to do that. I'm at Celtic until this ends!

Cheers for the detailed reply! Never noticed that someone else has asked so apologies for that 😂

You make a excellent point with the whole not loading leagues, but still get the quality youngsters coming from. 

Im about to start a game in China and was debating which to load so given me some food for thought. 
 

Anyway, not to go too off topic here, you are smashing this and confident you can get extremely close even without the international job!

[Scratch]

1 hour ago, broodje kip said:

It seems possible to me. 

Are you feeling okay mate? 😄

[Scratch]

This is the thing that's taken this tactic from great (capable of 150 club goals in a season) to one that saw 178 goals last season. 

There are some formations it doesn't do so well against, including those with 3 at the back, eg:

Some games we're just on it and will blow the opposition away anyway. Some games it's more like this (only 3 chances in the first 26 mins):

It it's the second case I will push my AMC forward as a PF, eg: 

I normally have a midfielder retrained as a forward in the team, but not today (out injured), so Turnbull goes forward even though he's red. That doesn't matter, he just needs to draw a defender or two away from Sesko. 

Now, if I didn't make a change, Sesko would probably pinch a goal in the end - it's very rare he doesn't score at all - but that's all. After making the above change, Sesko ended up with 3 goals from 13 shots (some days more would have gone in):

As you can see, Turnbull's not stealing any goals from him with only 2 shots (that seems to hold true even with the other players who've been retrained, although neither are full green).

I have a few other tricks now for other formations - going narrow against a 442 for eg. And actually with the above eg, I also went with Mixed instead of Centre for passing focus (seems to work better against the 2 CMs and 2 AMCs who seem to jam up the centre).

Can't tell you all of my tricks! And what works for my tactic and players might not work for yours - so used extended highlights to notice problems and keep tweaking until things works better. 

But for me, this sort of thing has taken it to the next level, where a 3KC might actually be on...

 

[Superking]

This is a wonder kid just cost only 1.7 millions to 2.5 millions .

try this player with very good team work + techniques attributes and+ can Play no of positions from starting the game.

I just noticed u signed him 🙂 already. 

And u play CM BWM CM I never had great success with this players combo . 

I play with BBM AP BBM .. with 2 IF at AF positions and 2 WB so this roles gives All out Attack .

 

 

 

Edited July 12, 2022 by Superking

[broodje kip]

2 hours ago, Scratch said:

Are you feeling okay mate? 😄

Perhaps I’m not. I shouldn’t be praising!

[Scratch]

3 hours ago, broodje kip said:

Perhaps I’m not. I shouldn’t be praising!

Hmm, maybe you better lie down for a bit. 😄 

[Scratch]

4 hours ago, Superking said:

This is a wonder kid just cost only 1.7 millions to 2.5 millions .

try this player with very good team work + techniques attributes and+ can Play no of positions from starting the game.

I just noticed u signed him 🙂 already. 

And u play CM BWM CM I never had great success with this players combo . 

I play with BBM AP BBM .. with 2 IF at AF positions and 2 WB so this roles gives All out Attack .

Yeah, I signed him because he's promising, cheap and develops really well, just perfect for the first few seasons at a club like Celtic - he has been doing very well for me.

With some saves I use BBMs or RPs to give more threat to the midfield, but they aren't good for a goal scoring challenge like this one - at least with my tactic. I've been fine tuning and updating this tactic since FMM17 and the whole point of it is to maximise the amount of goals going to the TF. 

BBMs would a) score too many goals themselves and b) take the ball forward (which I don't want). I want CMs who are going to get the ball from the IWB and just pass it on to the W. That's all they need to do. The Ws have 19 or 20 Crossing and can land it on Seskso's 20 Aerial head and bingo, 178 goals in a season. If I was using BBMs or IFs, then Sesko would have a lot less goals.

So that approach works for some tactics, but not this one. 🙂

[Superking]

🤣👍 I tried this tactics with wolves.. but  CM stated scoring goals more often than striker . 

[Scratch]

8 minutes ago, Superking said:

🤣👍 I tried this tactics with wolves.. but  CM stated scoring goals more often than striker . 

I don't know mate, it's working for me. Must be down to the players being used or something.

[broodje kip]

20 minutes ago, Scratch said:

I don't know mate, it's working for me. Must be down to the players being used or something.

Or the drug you put in Sesko?

[Scratch]

1 hour ago, broodje kip said:

Or the drug you put in Sesko?

Who needs drugs with someone like Sesko? Starts looking pretty good, gets 9 or 10 updates, don't need to be a rocket scientist. Then find wingers with similar improvement in them. Then do the same with the rest of the team. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[broodje kip]

1 hour ago, Scratch said:

Who needs drugs with someone like Sesko? Starts looking pretty good, gets 9 or 10 updates, don't need to be a rocket scientist. Then find wingers with similar improvement in them. Then do the same with the rest of the team. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Instant improvement drugs and consistency drugs of course.

[Scratch]

1 hour ago, broodje kip said:

Instant improvement drugs and consistency drugs of course.

Well, he did shoot up some quagliarella...

[Scratch]

Season 5 Update

Alright, surely this is the season that Sesko breaks the 200 goal barrier and Campbell smashes through the 100 assists mark?

Hmm, that's oddly specific, isn't it? 🙂

 

Transfers

Here are the transfers:

Spoiler

I didn't sell anyone this time round and I only brought in a couple of wonderkids for the future.

 

Results

Another great year domestically, although the goal total was down.

In Europe, after 3 years of being knocked out of the UCL by Man City, we avoided them - and ended up winning it, beating Juve 2-0 in a hard fought final.

Spoiler

 

Injuries

We've been pretty lucky so far, but that ended this year (though it can always be worse).

Sesko was out for 3 weeks in September and 10 days in April and got injured in the UCL final above, but there was no follow up injury the next day. Campbell was out for 3 weeks in October, 10 days in December and 3 weeks in April.

So that threw a spanner in the works and stopped us getting any big totals this year (sorry no 200 goals or 100 assists this season).

Spoiler

 

Development

Both looking utterly fantastic:

 

Goals - Sesko

Sesko ended up scoring 144 goals from 50 games:

He did well to play that many games given the injuries, but he was slow to come back each time, resulting in a disrupted season.

 

Assists - Campbell

Campbell ended up with 71 assists from 44 games:

On one hand, that's an incredible amount, but on the other hand, it's disappointing compared to last year. Once again, it seems to be down to the impact of the injuries.

 

Progress

Season	Šeško Goals	Campbell Assists
01	100	1
02	118	42
03	143	93
04	178	97
05	144	71
Total	683/3000	304/1500

 

Final Thoughts

So, it's hard to say it was a bad season, but it definitely wasn't as good as I was hoping for. Next year, I just want the lads to stay injury free so we can see what they can achieve.

Thanks for reading.

 

[Dai_]

The injuries suck! I can see where the slight disappointment would sneak in and the fact that you can't afford them (well, Sesko anyway) to drop off too much makes it even more frustrating. Still massive numbers.

I'm seriously interested in seeing them both with a full season now they're top notch. I'm not religious at all but even I'll pray for an injury free season so we can all see what you can actually get out of them. 🙏

Still don't like Campbell being English.

[Scratch]

2 hours ago, Dai_ said:

The injuries suck! I can see where the slight disappointment would sneak in and the fact that you can't afford them (well, Sesko anyway) to drop off too much makes it even more frustrating. Still massive numbers.

I'm seriously interested in seeing them both with a full season now they're top notch. I'm not religious at all but even I'll pray for an injury free season so we can all see what you can actually get out of them. 🙏

Still don't like Campbell being English.

Yeah, they still managed excellent numbers so I should be happy! I don't actually think Sesko can get 200 goals, despite what I said (just messing around), but I do think Campbell can get 100 assists.

Mind you I might need to weaken the left wing a little to get it going to him more often, but I'm probably not going to do that because I'm more worried about getting goals for Sesko, even if they come from the 'wrong' wing. 

And look I've tried to talk Campbell into changing back to Welsh, but he says he'll always BE Welsh, but it's too late to change the ITN affiliation back now.

 

[broodje kip]

Such injuries must be disappointing.

[Scratch]

4 minutes ago, broodje kip said:

Such injuries must be disappointing.

Swings and roundabouts... Lucky there wasn't anything longer.

[Rob]

Firstly, and most importantly, Campbell dumping Wales and pretending to be English is the best thing ever. 

Secondly, an excellent season. Injuries are a nightmare and I am convinced the game has learnt who your focussed players are and injures them. IT IS A CONSPIRACY.

[Scratch]

31 minutes ago, Rob said:

Firstly, and most importantly, Campbell dumping Wales and pretending to be English is the best thing ever. 

Secondly, an excellent season. Injuries are a nightmare and I am convinced the game has learnt who your focussed players are and injures them. IT IS A CONSPIRACY.

I think the fact that an English game studio created a game that takes the best young Welsh players and turns them English is a conspiracy! 😄

[Donushev]

3kc with Sesko is too easy a task for @Scratch. Come on, @Scratch, do it with a central defender (I suggest Valentin Antov from Monza). Turn him into a central striker, give him Carrillo, Giroud and CR7 as mentors. In the meantime, while learning from them, he will score at least 100 goals and already from the 2nd season, the ready striker will start scoring 250-300 goals 😁😁😁

[Scratch]

Update - Seasons 6 & 7

I've been a little busy and didn't have time to write season 6 up separately, so you get a combined update!

 

Transfers

Here are the transfers:

Spoiler

Going out: In season 6, Scamacca finally decided he'd had enough of being backup and it was the end of the road for club legend Callum MacGregor. In season 7, Livakovic wanted a new challenge so we let him leave, along with Kacavenda who'd slipped to the fringes.

Coming in: Just a few more wonderkids to top up our growing stocks.

 

Results

We won everything in season 6:

While in season 7 we got knocked out of the UCL at the quarter final stage by Man Utd (Sesko in a very rare goal drought) but won every single league game for the first time:

Spoiler

 

Injuries

Season 6 was perfect, with no injuries to Sesko or Campbell, although Sesko got hit with a 3 week injury while on ITN duty in the offseason. In season 7, they had one injury a piece, with Sesko out for 2 weeks and Campbell out for a month.

Spoiler

 

Development

Both looking utterly fantastic (but it took Sesko 6 months to get back to his maxed out level after the injury):

 

Goals - Sesko

Sesko scored 159 goals from 56 games in season 6 and 156 goals from 52 games in season 7:

Two fantastic seasons, but nowhere near that high-water mark of 178.

 

Assists - Campbell

Campbell got 92 assists from 57 games in season 6 and 84 assists from 49 games in season 7:

Two really solid seasons, but it's looking like 100 assists in a season may be out of reach here (unless I dumb down the LW side, which I'm not willing to do).

 

Progress

Sesko needed 5 goals from the last 2 games to make the 1K mark, but only managed 3, leaving him on 998.

Season	Šeško Goals	Campbell Assists
01	100	1
02	118	42
03	143	93
04	178	97
05	144	71
06	159	92
07	156	84
Total	998/3000	480/1500

I have a chart showing the average needed to reach 3K in 22 seasons and Sesko is now ahead of the curve (he needs to be as he will slow down a lot near the end).

 

Final Thoughts

Two very good seasons - if we can keep this up we might just make it. 🤞

BTW, from next season we'll be playing at a new stadium. It wasn't hard to think of a name for it:

Jimmy McGrory had been our record goal scorer (522 goals from 501 games), but Sesko has gone so far past that now that it was unanimous that we name the stadium after him.

Thanks for reading.

 

Edited July 24, 2022 by Scratch

[Superking]

Almost 1k in 7 season 👍