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Challenges You can't win the Premier with oldies? (Aged 32+)


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A new challenge.....brought about by the vibe record store (oldest goalscorer)...got me thinking...could you win the premier league with a team of oldies??

Simple rules....your squad must only contain players aged 32 or over at all times.....no unlockables used....

Good luck 🙂

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I think this is doable. Not easy + requires a massive transfer overhaul at the start of season 1, but doable. Am guessing you’d want all fitness coaches as well!

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4 hours ago, DanEnglish said:

I think this is doable. Not easy + requires a massive transfer overhaul at the start of season 1, but doable. Am guessing you’d want all fitness coaches as well!

Yes lots of fitness coaches lol it's tough, had one go and things trial off half way through the season, was 2nd to Liverpool up until then though, but was a struggle....mainly in defence

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Defense was the issue? Huh. Didn’t think that would be the problem - though would be problematic to play with a high defensive line, as their pace will be relatively low.

Who did you pick? There are some classy veterans available!

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DCs aged 32+
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GKs aged 32+
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9 minutes ago, DanEnglish said:

Defense was the issue? Huh. Didn’t think that would be the problem - though would be problematic to play with a high defensive line, as their pace will be relatively low.

Who did you pick? There are some classy veterans available!

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DCs aged 32+
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GKs aged 32+
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Just now, DanEnglish said:

Defense is an issue? You’re playing a one-at-the-back formation, where your only DC has just 11 pace?! 🤔

Haha I know I know.....more than risky, but fun 🙂

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2 hours ago, Gazzaeverton said:

Haha I know I know.....more than risky, but fun 🙂

👍

I have just realized WHY this challenge connects with me … because I have already tried (and SUCCEEDED) in a kinda-similar version of it last year 🙂

In @Titjes 2021 Draft League, I played the first season with a “players aged 30+ only” policy.  See spoiler.

Spoiler

It’s a pretty good, but unsustainable squad.

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With a pretty good end result…

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Though it’s similar to your challenge, it’s not the same.


If I was going to do your 32+ challenge:

  • 🔻probably can’t play a high defensive line, as the defenders lack pace.
  •  🔻probably can’t play a high press / gengenpress, as the attackers lack pace + stamina.
  •  🔻probably can’t play a winger / aerial game, as the wingers lack pace!
  • 🔻 probably can’t play a direct counter attack game, as the attackers lack pace.

So instead I’d probably go for a 41221 / 451, or maybe with a limited budget I’d go for a 532 variant again (5221?):

  •  mid-press, using hard-working midfielders + lots of bodies in the center to limit the amount of space opposition attackers have centrally.
  •  full / wing backs positioned high up the pitch (in the DML/R positions), taking advantage of the space left by wide attackers cutting inside (IFs/APs), crossing (from deep?) to an aerially strong TM/Poacher (Ronaldo?)
  •  slow passing through the center, to keep possession and get close to the opposition box before a ‘moment of magic’ (Messi) or ‘an inch of space’ (Aguero) appears to get a close range shot / chance for the IFs / poacher,

Just my thoughts 🙂 

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38 minutes ago, DanEnglish said:

👍

I have just realized WHY this challenge connects with me … because I have already tried (and SUCCEEDED) in a kinda-similar version of it last year 🙂

In @Titjes 2021 Draft League, I played the first season with a “players aged 30+ only” policy.  See spoiler.

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It’s a pretty good, but unsustainable squad.

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With a pretty good end result…

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Though it’s similar to your challenge, it’s not the same.


If I was going to do your 32+ challenge:

  • 🔻probably can’t play a high defensive line, as the defenders lack pace.
  •  🔻probably can’t play a high press / gengenpress, as the attackers lack pace + stamina.
  •  🔻probably can’t play a winger / aerial game, as the wingers lack pace!
  • 🔻 probably can’t play a direct counter attack game, as the attackers lack pace.

So instead I’d probably go for a 41221 / 451, or maybe with a limited budget I’d go for a 532 variant again (5221?):

  •  mid-press, using hard-working midfielders + lots of bodies in the center to limit the amount of space opposition attackers have centrally.
  •  full / wing backs positioned high up the pitch (in the DML/R positions), taking advantage of the space left by wide attackers cutting inside (IFs/APs), crossing (from deep?) to an aerially strong TM/Poacher (Ronaldo?)
  •  slow passing through the center, to keep possession and get close to the opposition box before a ‘moment of magic’ (Messi) or ‘an inch of space’ (Aguero) appears to get a close range shot / chance for the IFs / poacher,

Just my thoughts 🙂 

Brilliant thoughts, thought of some of that but not all those things....very good analysis!

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It should be straightforward enough - I think you could have a challenge if it were over 35s. Still lots of good players at that age but you would have to manage tactics carefully.

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1 hour ago, Pete123 said:

It should be straightforward enough - I think you could have a challenge if it were over 35s. Still lots of good players at that age but you would have to manage tactics carefully.

Yes I set it at 35+ to begin with, but was a complete nightmare 😁

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Just for some fun, I had a go at this yesterday - but (full disclosure) used the Editor to:

  • release all of Norwich’s players
  • edited in a ~25 man squad of 32+ year old stars
  • set the captains, set piece takers, improved staff (all fitness coaches!)
  • then holidayed through the season, letting the new assistant manager take charge…

… and wow what a season it was …  

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Team Selection:

Spoiler

Not a bad squad - right?!

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The squad dynamics look quite extreme …

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1st Half Season:…

Spoiler

Dec 31st = TOP of the league!

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Though when we get beat, we get absolutely hammered…

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End Season

Spoiler

A horrific drop of form in the final 8 games …

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… led us a 4th placed finish …

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… alongside being knocked out of the cups …

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… here are the end-season player stats …

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… plus the (even more extreme!) squad dynamics!

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Key Lessons:

  • Build up a lead - you must had a lead in the 1st half season - as your elderly squad will deteriorate towards the season’s end.
  • Build squad depth - as the squad had so many injuries - including to key players Cuadrado + Tadic’s broken leg!
  • Plus well done to Lewandowski

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Thoughts? 🙂 

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Edit - yes I know this wasn’t within the challenge rules, I just did it for some fun :-)
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7 hours ago, Gazzaeverton said:

Yes I set it at 35+ to begin with, but was a complete nightmare 😁

That would be very tough towards the end of season 1. Can you imagine how little pace + stamina your midfield would have vs Man City / Liverpool / etc

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5 hours ago, DanEnglish said:

That would be very tough towards the end of season 1. Can you imagine how little pace + stamina your midfield would have vs Man City / Liverpool / etc

Great fun though Dan, well done.....yes the second half of the season goes downhill fast from my experience too.....

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On 03/09/2022 at 08:38, Gazzaeverton said:

Great fun though Dan, well done.....yes the second half of the season goes downhill fast from my experience too.....

You adding me to your leaderboard as the only current one to finish it??

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