Fun/Games FMM Cup 2

[broodje kip]

3 hours ago, DanEnglish said:

I wasn’t sure whether to go with option A or B - as both seemed like upgrades.

However am surprised anyone went for option C - while the old guy is a better leader, he seems to be a downgrade in terms of player ability + suitability. I’d assume that extra leadership + personality is useful, it wouldn’t compensate for the downgrade in ability over just 1 match. Surprised. 

@leedsunited87 / @broodje kip / @DutchTony - can you share your logic / feelings of why you went with option C ? To educate the rest of us 🙂 

It’s based on my experience where sometimes older legends will perform great when playing consistently despite their weaker stats. Perhaps just some kind of myth I created haha.

[BatiGoal]

 

FMM CUP 2

- Round 3 -

 ☸ All About The Team ☸

 

The Results

 

Option A : Captain Campaña (GK)

Best Result : 7.6

Av. Team Rating: 6.92

• The average Team Rating without any of the 3 options gave us an Av 6.8 rating over 10 games. So we gained a mere 0.12 on average. It's an increase, which we take any day, but is it enough to score points?

 

Option B : Captain Réver (CB)

Best Result : 7.6

Av. Team Rating: 7.26

• Here we have a much larger increase over the original 6.8. we gained 0.46 / game on Av. That's quite a big step up in terms of overall performances. So Captain CB outscored the GK by a significant number.

 

Option C : Captain Blaszczykowski (AMR)

Best Result : 8.3

Av. Team Rating: 7.13

• Option C gives us a solid increase as well over the "optionless" formation. We get + 0.33 which outrates option A but falls just short of option B. The former being this round's loser and the latter the round's winner. 

 

Option A : Captain Campaña (GK)

• Av. Team Rating: 6.92 : 0 pts

 

Option B : Captain Réver (CB)

• Av. Team Rating: 7.26 : 3 pts

 

Option C : Captain Blaszczykowski (AMR)

• Av. Team Rating: 7.13 : 1 pt

 

Thoughts

To be honest, it's a little difficult for me to analyze this and explain why there's a difference. I can't really pinpoint a single factor for option B doing better than A and C. It's my opinion that GK Campaña is a small improvement over Poussin. CB Réver (altho terrible 'tackling') is a fair bit better than Mwanga and AMR Blaszczykowski is a slight downgrade to Oudin. But in terms of the Captain improving the entire strata he's on (as rumor goes) - 1. Too few games to make such conclusions. 2. I noticed widespread improvements on Av. not just the line they "cover". 

Last thing, both Options A and B were much more "stable" if you will, with fewer fluctuating ratings - somewhere between 6.7 and 7.6. (approx 1.0 pts difference) Option C, however, had highs of 8.3 and lows of 6.1. (difference of over 2.0 pts) That's double - that's massive! Much more inconsistent than the other two options. Why? Pff, I wish I knew. Maybe due to an inconsistent Captain? Do inconsistent Captains cause inconsistent team performances? I just don't have the answer to that. 

 

FMM Cup 2 Managers : Leaderboard

(Round 3/10 completed)

1.  9 pts - DanEnglish
2.  7 pts - AndersJ
3.  7 pts - StuartM
4.  6 pts - BakaSotong
5.  5 pts - broodje kip
6.  5 pts - DutchTony
7.  5 pts - leedsunited87
8.  5 pts - Titjes
9.  4 pts - Kanegan
10.  4 pts - Kun Aguero
11.  4 pts - Sqwagalog
12.  1 pts - AtleticoWolves
13.  0 pts - Chris Rawlings

[DutchTony]

6 hours ago, DanEnglish said:

I wasn’t sure whether to go with option A or B - as both seemed like upgrades.

However am surprised anyone went for option C - while the old guy is a better leader, he seems to be a downgrade in terms of player ability + suitability. I’d assume that extra leadership + personality is useful, it wouldn’t compensate for the downgrade in ability over just 1 match. Surprised. 

@leedsunited87 / @broodje kip / @DutchTony - can you share your logic / feelings of why you went with option C ? To educate the rest of us 🙂 

Yeah sure no worries at all.

I was brutally hung over and could barely function. I looked at the options and decided to go with one of them as i knew I couldn't leave it until I was feeling better today. I guess I picked C as that player is furthest up the pitch 🤷🏻

For the record I don't feel much better today. Don't go out on an empty stomach and definitely don't mix your drinks boys and girls

If you require any more of my supreme wisdom and tactic knowledge, please feel free to ask and I will oblige where possible 🤣🤣🤣

[leedsunited87]

Well having a experienced captain on the pitch surely would help the team as a whole, rather then a GK, ovs not 😆 

[DanEnglish]

Phew! 

Am surprised having a better GK (option 1) didn’t make as much difference as I existed AND that having the AMR (option 3) did so well.

Love both the commentary / explanations + the suspense you put in there Bati - I mealy spat out my cuppa tea twice reading it - first when I saw option A’s 7.6 (it took me a second to realize that was the best score, not the average) + then again when I saw option C’s best score (incorrectly thinking ‘OMG the average must be so much higher as well’). Nicely done 👍 

Edited February 20, 2023 by DanEnglish

[Kanegan]

Finally my option B started working.

[BatiGoal]

19 minutes ago, DutchTony said:

For the record I don't feel much better today. Don't go out on an empty stomach and definitely don't mix your drinks boys and girls

Some things just never change. If there's a Dutchie participating, do NOT post any challenge over the weekend. 😂

17 minutes ago, leedsunited87 said:

Well having a experienced captain on the pitch surely would help the team as a whole, rather then a GK, ovs not 😆 

Unless it's absolutely necessary, I never liked having GK captains. Eventho there are real life examples of excellent GK captains, one wonders (I do) if in those particular cases there isn't also an "outfield" captain that leads the team. Or at least a respected player the team looks up to. CMs and CBs are my usual picks.

18 minutes ago, DanEnglish said:

Phew! 

Am surprised having a better GK (option 1) didn’t make as much difference as I existed AND that having the AMR (option 3) did so well.

Love both the commentary / explanations + the suspense you put in there Bati - I mealy spat out my cuppa tea twice reading it - first when I saw option A’s 7.6 (it took me a second to realize that was the best score, not the average) + then again when I saw option C’s best score (incorrectly thinking ‘OMG the average must be so much higher as well’). Nicely done 👍 

Thanks Dan, you're still on a perfect run. Let's see if next round we can spill some of that tea 👍

18 minutes ago, Kanegan said:

Finally my option B started working.

You may as well send in your vote for next round already 🤣

[Sqwagalog]

3 hours ago, BatiGoal said:

 

FMM CUP 2

- Round 3 -

 ☸ All About The Team ☸

 

The Results

 

Option A : Captain Campaña (GK)

Best Result : 7.6

Av. Team Rating: 6.92

• The average Team Rating without any of the 3 options gave us an Av 6.8 rating over 10 games. So we gained a mere 0.12 on average. It's an increase, which we take any day, but is it enough to score points?

 

Option B : Captain Réver (CB)

Best Result : 7.6

Av. Team Rating: 7.26

• Here we have a much larger increase over the original 6.8. we gained 0.46 / game on Av. That's quite a big step up in terms of overall performances. So Captain CB outscored the GK by a significant number.

 

Option C : Captain Blaszczykowski (AMR)

Best Result : 8.3

Av. Team Rating: 7.13

• Option C gives us a solid increase as well over the "optionless" formation. We get + 0.33 which outrates option A but falls just short of option B. The former being this round's loser and the latter the round's winner. 

 

Option A : Captain Campaña (GK)

• Av. Team Rating: 6.92 : 0 pts

 

Option B : Captain Réver (CB)

• Av. Team Rating: 7.26 : 3 pts

 

Option C : Captain Blaszczykowski (AMR)

• Av. Team Rating: 7.13 : 1 pt

 

Thoughts

To be honest, it's a little difficult for me to analyze this and explain why there's a difference. I can't really pinpoint a single factor for option B doing better than A and C. It's my opinion that GK Campaña is a small improvement over Poussin. CB Réver (altho terrible 'tackling') is a fair bit better than Mwanga and AMR Blaszczykowski is a slight downgrade to Oudin. But in terms of the Captain improving the entire strata he's on (as rumor goes) - 1. Too few games to make such conclusions. 2. I noticed widespread improvements on Av. not just the line they "cover". 

Last thing, both Options A and B were much more "stable" if you will, with fewer fluctuating ratings - somewhere between 6.7 and 7.6. (approx 1.0 pts difference) Option C, however, had highs of 8.3 and lows of 6.1. (difference of over 2.0 pts) That's double - that's massive! Much more inconsistent than the other two options. Why? Pff, I wish I knew. Maybe due to an inconsistent Captain? Do inconsistent Captains cause inconsistent team performances? I just don't have the answer to that. 

 

FMM Cup 2 Managers : Leaderboard

(Round 3/10 completed)

1.  9 pts - DanEnglish
2.  7 pts - AndersJ
3.  7 pts - StuartM
4.  6 pts - BakaSotong
5.  5 pts - broodje kip
6.  5 pts - DutchTony
7.  5 pts - leedsunited87
8.  5 pts - Titjes
9.  4 pts - Kanegan
10.  4 pts - Kun Aguero
11.  4 pts - Sqwagalog
12.  1 pts - AtleticoWolves
13.  0 pts - Chris Rawlings

I knew Blaszczykowski would do beeter than Campana

[AndersJ]

6 hours ago, DutchTony said:

Yeah sure no worries at all.

I was brutally hung over and could barely function. I looked at the options and decided to go with one of them as i knew I couldn't leave it until I was feeling better today. I guess I picked C as that player is furthest up the pitch 🤷🏻

For the record I don't feel much better today. Don't go out on an empty stomach and definitely don't mix your drinks boys and girls

If you require any more of my supreme wisdom and tactic knowledge, please feel free to ask and I will oblige where possible 🤣🤣🤣

Im heading out fridag night - what should i mix to get the worst hungover- the ones were its days 😁

[BatiGoal]

Important Announcement - Round 4 shall be posted soon. *It far exceeds the difficulty level of any of the previous 3 rounds*. If any of the participating managers want out - feel free to do so, you'll receive an honorable discharge from the competition. PM me within 24h so I can conclude your farewell ceremony in time. Thank you.

Your Host,

BatiGoal

 

 

Here's already a teaser of THE TERROR that's awaiting you.

 

FMM CUP 2

- Round 4 -

★  Goal Drought Woes  ★

 

Stay Tuned..

 

[DanEnglish]

12 minutes ago, BatiGoal said:

★  Goal Drought Woes  ★

This reminds me of trying to get Benteke + Zaha (big man, short man) scoring for Crystal Palace in FMM22 - using a horrible-to-watch defensive + long ball 442 tactic *sigh*

[BakaSotong]

15 minutes ago, BatiGoal said:

 

★  Goal Drought Woes  ★

Didn't know you got ahold of my DT save (pain)

[BatiGoal]

8 minutes ago, DanEnglish said:

This reminds me of trying to get Benteke + Zaha (big man, short man) scoring for Crystal Palace in FMM22 - using a horrible-to-watch defensive + long ball 442 tactic *sigh*

 

5 minutes ago, BakaSotong said:

Didn't know you got ahold of my DT save (pain)

Wrong end of the pitch, guys.

🤐

[Kun Aguero]

I'm gonna guess picking 1 out of 3 goalkeepers to play up front and see who scores more 😬

[BatiGoal]

7 minutes ago, Kun Aguero said:

I'm gonna guess picking 1 out of 3 goalkeepers to play up front and see who scores more 😬

I like it 😂 but no, no crazy challenges like that. It's something more related to what you might find during regular careers.

Although, it's become personal this one, it looks like we may have a mole somewhere... anyway - more later ..

[DanEnglish]

3 hours ago, BatiGoal said:

Although, it's become personal this one, it looks like we may have a mole somewhere... anyway - more later ..

All I can think of is an Austin Powers tribute challenge … ?!

Spoiler

 

Edited February 21, 2023 by DanEnglish

[BatiGoal]

9 hours ago, BatiGoal said:

PM me within 24h so I can conclude your farewell ceremony in time

1 wise person has decided to retreat. Who will follow?

[BarnDoor]

I didnt even participate, but I'll take a farewell ceremony if you're handing them out just like that 😂

[DanEnglish]

10 hours ago, BatiGoal said:

1 wise person has decided to retreat. Who will follow?

Edited February 21, 2023 by DanEnglish

[AtleticoWolves]

Not faring too well this event, but might as well stick it to the end. That one point is surely going to go up soon...right?

[BatiGoal]

1 hour ago, AtleticoWolves said:

Not faring too well this event, but might as well stick it to the end. That one point is surely going to go up soon...right?

Right 😀

[BatiGoal]

 

FMM CUP 2

- Round 4 -

★  Goal Drought Woes  ★

 

 

No Goals Against

Here's what's been bothering me - this started out as just another FMM Cup 2 round until things took a very unexpected turn. A round that was supposed to test your defensive tactical skills, low goals against (GA), win + keeping clean sheets etc has now turned into a - Don't Concede at All Costs - challenge. More info on that ..

 

One Day Earlier - 09:37am

So I'm sipping coffee at my desk writing reading fodder when someone slips a white envelope under my door. The guy runs off - he's damn quick for a head full of bushy hair - but I couldn't give a toss otherwise, until I read the words 10-in-row in red. Having no clue what the deal is there, I open the envelope and read the letter: Hey BatiGoal, I know what you're up to. We know. You're replaying the same damn game 10x over, yeah. You now Trabzonspor yes, big team Turkey. Small team Europe. I'm scoring a hattrick x10 tomorrow and you're doing jack about that. JACK. You, your starting 11 AND your pathetic FMM manager buddies. I will annihilate you sorry @$$ f#$&ers real good !!

Mo -The Egyptian Pharaoh- Salah

 

WTF

WTF seriously? my immediate reaction. Where the geez did that come from? Always seemed like such a nice guy. Hmm .. I'm also left wondering how he obtained the info. We have a mole? A Vibe mole wanting to see us getting humiliated ?? I bet it's one of 'm sneaky bastards below.

Spoiler

@Ashez @FuddledFox @samhardy @Scratch @Rob @Cockers2505 @Ian

Just can't trust this bunch !

 

Trabzonspor v Liverpool

The game.

 

Twist

Twist is what this round begs. F?+k the mole and f+?k Salah. He wants x10 hattrick galore? He's getting a f123king drought, a severe Egyptian drought of Saharan proportions. Does the Sahara reach as far as Egypt.. tomorrow it will !!! Sorry guys, a little emotional.. I need a glass of water to shake off the shivers. Something our Liverpool friend will be begging for after his drought 👍

What's going down is the following:

• We MUST keep Salah from scoring. However, him staying dry but his compatriots netting 6-7 is no good. So a Liverpool goal counts x1 and a Salah goal count x2. That's your twist!
• Example: Trabzonspor 3-3 Liverpool (Salah x2 , Nuñez x1) means 5 conceded. Not 3 ---> 5 !

 

So we need to stop Liverpool from scoring and Salah in particular. Look at our #1 enemy in case you've forgotten..

He looks very determined to hurt our defense from AMR.

 

Liverpool (4-1-2-2-1)

Liverpool's most likely line up for tomorrow's game.

 

Option A : Defensive + Man Marking

• Our aim here is to go Defensive but with a somewhat more Balanced mindset. So a Defensive formation with mostly player roles that cover both att. / def. responsibilities on the pitch, as we don't want to soak up "too much" pressure and offer something in return. + we Man Mark The Pharaoh! - hence the extra 5th defender to form a back five for extra cover on the left. 

Additional Settings Here:

Spoiler

 

Option B : Defensive "Park The Bus"

• Here the starting formation is already very defensive as are the roles assigned to the players. No Man Marking here since we demand no one to run out of position. Well, there is an Anchor on Salah's side tho. And the "5th" defender has become a DM to stop "between lines" play. We try to park this Turkish bus in front of goal and NO ONE is getting a free bus ride.

Additional Settings Here:

Spoiler

 

Option C : High (Gegen) Pressing

• How about we cut off all support - nobody ain't scoring anything, especially Salah, if we cut off the supply. No build-up = no chances = no goals ---> a high pressing game. That's the idea on paper. This looks like Ashez / FuddleFox's Gegenpressing tactic, but our WBs dropped to FB, no BPDs and forwards got updated PF roles today. Are these players capable of doing so tho?

Additional Settings Here:

Spoiler

 

* If anyone requires additional info just drop a comment and I might comply * 😉

For each of the 3 options above, the CL home game Trabzonspor vs. Liverpool shall be played 10 times. I will then calculate the Av. number conceded goals per game - Remember: Liverpool goal x1 and Salah goal x2. Which of the 3 options (A, B or C) do you think gets lowest GA/g ratio? -> You may discuss the 3 options at length in this thread but do NOT reveal your answer. PM me the answer!

[DanEnglish]

2 hours ago, BatiGoal said:

Trabzonspor v Liverpool

Nice challenge + loved the write up!

Some thoughts about the options:

• as all three of them have a back 5 (if you include the DMC), I think this is all about possession - if you have 40% possession (instead of 50%), then the opposition have 20% more chances to score.
• Plus Nunez is the real worry (not Salah) - if you play a low block, his aerial will hurt you. If you play a high block, his pace will hurt you. Decisions decisions.

Spoiler

Option A:
I love this type of defensive formation. We shouldn’t have much possession (40-45% ish?) + nor many shots - but I can imagine a number of goalless draws or 0-1 losses. Would be better with an AMC (not a ST) + with short passing. Edit - am not sure how man-marking changes things, as I don’t use it myself.

Option B:
Similar to above, but probably less effective as Liverpool don’t play with an AMC. The issue is the wasted direct passing (to a DLF surrounded by two DCs + a DMC?!)) + the LOWER possession (<40%? Certainly lower than option A). The ‘committed’ tackles worries me - does Salah take penalties? Again would be better with an AMC (not ST) and short passing. Edit - wish this had WMs instead, I guess it’s ineffective to use DWs in a low block / low press.

Option 😄
It’s helpful that I just wrote a Vibe article on intense pressing!

Risky, as if we get beat it could be by multiple goals - but the back 4 + DMC still provide good cover. With short passing + a midfield diamond, this should have HIGHER possession numbers (50%? Maybe a little more? Certainly more possession than the other options). Edit - am not sure how good our GK as a SK, and have just realized we have Gomez upfront, but can’t use him in this formation! 

 
Your Picks:
Have you guessed my choice? So do you try to pick the same option, hoping I’m right - or do you pick a different option, hoping to catch up / overtake me? …

… or is this all ‘mind games’ eh?! 🙂 

Edited February 22, 2023 by DanEnglish

[BatiGoal]

45 minutes ago, DanEnglish said:

Nice challenge + loved the write up!

🙏

45 minutes ago, DanEnglish said:

as all three of them have a back 5 (if you include the DMC), I think this is all about possession - if you have 40% possession (instead of 50%), then the opposition have 20% more chances to score.

I need to somewhat tailor it to the Trabzonspor squad tho. As much as I love taking away possession from the opposition it's so risky to get dispossessed due to much lesser quality players. Hence option C reflecting a "defensive style" Gegenpressing if there was one. It's not ideal for sure but it might work?

45 minutes ago, DanEnglish said:

Plus Nunez is the real worry (not Salah) - if you play a low block, his aerial will hurt you. If you play a high block, his pace will hurt you. Decisions decisions.

I didn't pick Salah, Salah picked me ..the letter ..under my door .. 😂

45 minutes ago, DanEnglish said:

I love this type of defensive formation. We shouldn’t have much possession (40-45% ish?) + nor many shots - but I can imagine a number of goalless draws or 0-1 losses. Would be better with an AMC (not a ST) + with short passing.

I thought about swapping ST for AMC. Kinda regret not having done so. Maybe we need 4 options for FMM Cup 3 👍

45 minutes ago, DanEnglish said:

The issue is the wasted direct passing (to a DLF surrounded by two DCs + a DMC?!)) + the LOWER possession (<40%? Certainly lower than option A). The ‘committed’ tackles worries me - does Salah take penalties? Again would be better with an AMC (not ST) and short passing.

Perhaps from an attacking point of view yes, eventho there's no intent on counter attack, but from a defensive one 'direct passing' will ensure the ball to get away from our half ASAP. Some may ask why not go 'long'? It was an option too but due to the players, it probably means giving away possession too quick/easily whereas 'direct' keeps possession slightly longer and pushes Liverpool back a little bit to perform defensive duties. In theory, haven't played the games yet 😉

45 minutes ago, DanEnglish said:

the back 4 + DMC still provide good cover. With short passing + a midfield diamond, this should have HIGHER possession numbers (50%? Maybe a little more? Certainly more possession than the other options).

If the starting 11 eat and sleep well before the game this should do OK. Will they tho?

45 minutes ago, DanEnglish said:

or is this all ‘mind games’ eh?! 🙂 

I don't know about you but I never lie. At least I can't remember last time I did. So .. then again I can't remember what I had for breakfast..

🤡

Edited February 22, 2023 by BatiGoal

[broodje kip]

How about gegen + man mark

[BatiGoal]

2 hours ago, DanEnglish said:

The ‘committed’ tackles worries me - does Salah take penalties?

Oh dear, we will soon find out 🤔 

2 hours ago, DanEnglish said:

Edit - am not sure how man-marking changes things, as I don’t use it myself.

I used it on a couple of occasions during my Man Utd test save for FBs only tho. Basically what I observed is a/the target gets man marked as soon as they step into the "FB area", sort of like an invisible radius. So if Salah and Diaz swap sides I'll need to swap man marking as well or Diaz gets man marked. 

2 hours ago, DanEnglish said:

Edit - wish this had WMs instead, I guess it’s ineffective to use DWs in a low block / low press.

Won't DWs remain deeper tho, WMs slightly riskier? Altho they're performing very well this year and Trabzon WMs aren't super bad. 

Option A has WMs, I'm very curious to find out how they perform against Liverpool.

2 hours ago, DanEnglish said:

Edit - am not sure how good our GK as a SK, and have just realized we have Gomez upfront, but can’t use him in this formation! 

SK

What do you think?

Re Gomez up front, well spotted, it's either him out of position or a weaker replacement. I think the latter is safest.

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36 minutes ago, broodje kip said:

How about gegen + man mark

I'll try a few extra games and see how that goes 🙂

[DanEnglish]

2 hours ago, BatiGoal said:

I need to somewhat tailor it to the Trabzonspor squad tho.

That is a very VERY fair point.

2 hours ago, BatiGoal said:

from a defensive one 'direct passing' will ensure the ball to get away from our half ASAP.

Also a fair point. When I’m trying to avoid conceding in the last 20-30 mins of a fake (vs a better opponent), sometimes ill also go ‘direct passing’ - but against an opposition 41221 I’ll focus it ‘down the flanks’ - (1) our DWs are positioned closer to the rest of our team, so should be an easier pass, while our St is further forward + is a harder pass, + (2) our DWs receive the ball with only one opponent around them, while the ST has three opponents around him - their DC, DC, DMC.

50 minutes ago, BatiGoal said:

Won't DWs remain deeper tho, WMs slightly riskier?

Huh. I don’t know. That’s an interesting point. I was just thinking that when the opposition FB gets the ball, our DW is going to sprint forward to close them down, but they’re starting from a deep line + no-one else is pressing, so it’s a wasted press.

52 minutes ago, BatiGoal said:

SK - What do you think?

Not bad. Should be ok-ish right? 🙂 

55 minutes ago, BatiGoal said:

Re Gomez up front, well spotted, it's either him out of position or a weaker replacement. I think the latter is safest.

Agreed. Interestingly, both him + Weghorst are similar players, yet both moved to Turkey over the summer. If Man. United’s Weghorst experiment is successful (big if), then the younger Gonez could be a cheap end-season transfer target as a longer term TM for them 😲

[DanEnglish]

Found it! Knew that I’d posted my two favorite ‘ways to avoid conceding’ (with DWs 🤔 hmmm) - alongside my newly found third way in my pressing guide 🙂 

Spoiler

<here>

[Lilyay]

A is the right option

[BatiGoal]

44 minutes ago, DanEnglish said:

sometimes ill also go ‘direct passing’ - but against an opposition 41221 I’ll focus it ‘down the flanks’ - (1) our DWs are positioned closer to the rest of our team, so should be an easier pass, while our St is further forward + is a harder pass, + (2) our DWs receive the ball with only one opponent around them, while the ST has three opponents around him - their DC, DC, DMC.

👍 👍 9 out of 10 - no... 99/100 times that's the way to go. 

46 minutes ago, DanEnglish said:

when the opposition FB gets the ball, our DW is going to sprint forward to close them down, but they’re starting from a deep line + no-one else is pressing, so it’s a wasted press.

Right. I basically want him (DW) to act like a 2nd FB but he doesn't know it 😂

26 minutes ago, DanEnglish said:

Found it! Knew that I’d posted my two favorite ‘ways to avoid conceding’ (with DWs 🤔 hmmm) - alongside my newly found third way in my pressing guide 🙂 

  Reveal hidden contents

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Very cool. Definitely similarities there. Maybe I should try this as option E 😆

19 minutes ago, Lilyay said:

A is the right option

Could very well be 😁 Results after all votes are in.