Posted April 12, 2023 Hi everyone and welcome to some fun. I think we can all agree that Pep Guardiola is a great manager, he has however not won the Champions League with Manchester City yet. This season he has the help from Haaland to achieve this. What if we gave Pep some more help and get him a strike partner for Haaland, none other than Mbappé! 🙂 For this little experiment I've moved Mbappé to Manchester City, using the editor. I also edited Pep his preferred formation to every 2 striker formation for a season to see how he would do. He will be using the following formation for 1 season: 4-4-2 4-4-2 Diamond 4-2-2-2 4-3-1-2 5-1-2-2 5-2-1-2 5-3-2 4-2-4 What are your thoughts every formation? What will be the best formation? Can he win the Champions League? Vote for the formation that you think will do best in the poll. We will soon find out the results 😄 PART A: Formations 1 - 4 4-4-2 Spoiler 4-4-2 Diamond Spoiler 4-2-2-2 Spoiler 4-3-1-2 Spoiler More in PART B 2 Quote Report Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 12, 2023 PART B: Formations 5 - 8 + Overview 5-1-2-2 Spoiler 5-2-1-2 Spoiler 5-3-2 Spoiler 4-2-4 Spoiler Overview This is the end of it, thanks for reading. Feel free to ask questions. Pep failed to win the Champions League every time, what does he (the AI) need to win it with Manchester City? Thoughts? 0 Quote Report Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) I suggest you 4-4-2 for your test in the UCL for Man City ( this tactic creates a lot of clear cut chances ) —P—TF— W—RP—BBM—W FB—CD—CD—FB —SK— ATTACKING / BALANCE / FAST / BALANCE / HIGH / ALL OVER / COMMITTED / YES / NO / LOOK FOR OVERLAP / WORK INTO BOX / RUN AT DEFENCE / SHORT / MIX / SHORT / Edited April 12, 2023 by till malkovich 0 Quote Report Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, till malkovich said: Edited April 12, 2023 by till malkovich 0 Quote Report Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 12, 2023 1 minute ago, ericm544 said: @тилл малковичМне нравится эта идея, я думаю, что, возможно, он мог бы использовать BPD и WB, потому что защитники «Манчестер Сити» умны и техничны, даже Кайл Уокер и Рубен Диас, со всем остальным я согласен. Мбаппе-Хааланд в комбинации P/TF звучит устрашающе. I categorically do not recommend BPD+WB for this tactic! Otherwise you will miss a lot, only FB+CD. on the flanks there is W why there is still WB, BPD - too risky he often moves out of the line throwing his position, for reliability need flat four defenders. 0 Quote Report Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, ericm544 said: @тилл малковичЯ вижу, это имеет смысл. В этом случае «Ман Сити» тоже отлично подойдет для этого, имея более оборонительную четверку защитников, которая все еще может продвигать мяч. Я также думаю, что, поскольку уже есть BBM и RP, четыре средних игрока будут часто терять позиции, поэтому имеет смысл иметь сильных крайних защитников для защиты от контратак. Эта тактика больше основана на цели, владении мячом или защите? 0 Quote Report Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 12, 2023 16 minutes ago, ericm544 said: @till malkovich I see, that makes sense. In that case Man City would be great for that too, having a more defensive back four that can still progress the ball. I think also since there is already a BBM and RP the middle four players will be out of position a lot so it makes sense to have strong fullbacks to defend counterattacks. Is that tactic more goal based, possession based, or defense based? This is a tactic that creates a lot of chances without the viscous game, I would call it "chancetactical" 0 Quote Report Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 12, 2023 1 hour ago, till malkovich said: I suggest you 4-4-2 for your test in the UCL for Man City ( this tactic creates a lot of clear cut chances ) —P—TF— W—RP—BBM—W FB—CD—CD—FB —SK— ATTACKING / BALANCE / FAST / BALANCE / HIGH / ALL OVER / COMMITTED / YES / NO / LOOK FOR OVERLAP / WORK INTO BOX / RUN AT DEFENCE / SHORT / MIX / SHORT / 58 minutes ago, ericm544 said: @till malkovichI like this idea, I think maybe he could use BPDs and WBs due to the Man City defenders being very smart and technical. Everything else I agree with as outside of the 433, 343, and 442 are what I mainly use for tactics and formations. Mbappe-Haaland in a P/TF combination sounds terrifying. 52 minutes ago, till malkovich said: I categorically do not recommend BPD+WB for this tactic! Otherwise you will miss a lot, only FB+CD. on the flanks there is W why there is still WB, BPD - too risky he often moves out of the line throwing his position, for reliability need flat four defenders. 45 minutes ago, ericm544 said: @till malkovich I see, that makes sense. In that case Man City would be great for that too, having a more defensive back four that can still progress the ball. I think also since there is already a BBM and RP the middle four players will be out of position a lot so it makes sense to have strong fullbacks to defend counterattacks. Is that tactic more goal based, possession based, or defense based? 36 minutes ago, till malkovich said: 28 minutes ago, till malkovich said: This is a tactic that creates a lot of chances without the viscous game, I would call it "chancetactical" I'm not creating the tactics. I'm just using editor to change Pep his favorite formation, so he (the AI) plays in that formation all the time, everything else stays the same. After doing all 8 formations I will compare which did best. 0 Quote Report Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 12, 2023 20 minutes ago, Titjes said: Я не создаю тактики. Я просто использую редактор, чтобы изменить Пепа в его любимой расстановке, поэтому он (ИИ) играет в этой расстановке все время, все остальное остается прежним. Выполнив все 8 формаций, я сравню, какая из них удалась лучше всего. Sorry, I guess I did not quite understand you when I wrote all these comments, now I understand what you want to do. Good luck with that) 1 Quote Report Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 13, 2023 Whichever with KDB as left wing-back will work best 😂 0 Quote Report Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 13, 2023 PART A has been added 0 Quote Report Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 13, 2023 I went with 4-3-1-2 because for me Pep does use the IF's (Grealish, Mahrez, Foden etc) but in this content, 4 solid back players and knowing how the 2 CD work, even though BPD push them forward, both CD's have the passing attribute which they are very good at doing, so midfield only need to receive the ball and get it up field more to Mbappe because he has Lightning pace, Haaland will also contribute with Pace, but his towering frame is what makes him so good in the air, and strength, so I picture IF's a waste of time in this situation, bolster midfield with an attacking player in Foden, with a flat back 4, giving opportunities for the FB to venture forward when they are in the oppositions half. 1 Quote Report Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 13, 2023 20 hours ago, Titjes said: PART B: Formations 5 - 8 + Overview 5-1-2-2 <Stats> Reveal hidden contents <screenshots> 5-2-1-2 <Stats> Reveal hidden contents <screenshots> 5-3-2 <Stats> Reveal hidden contents <screenshots> 4-2-4 <Stats> Reveal hidden contents <screenshots> Overview This is the end of it, thanks for reading. Feel free to ask questions. Am I going crazy, but I cannot see anything in here yet, it just says <screenshots> with no images? are these coming later? 0 Quote Report Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Cockers2505 said: Am I going crazy, but I cannot see anything in here yet, it just says <screenshots> with no images? are these coming later? going to update them now, was still making them all 😉 0 Quote Report Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 13, 2023 Just now, Titjes said: going to update them now, was still making them all 😉 Ok mate, apologies, I thought I was losing the plot 🤣 1 Quote Report Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 13, 2023 It is now updated with part B 😂 0 Quote Report Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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