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Career It's a long way to the top... academy edition


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It's not strictly the IALWTTT challenge as I'm not starting unemployed, but I liked the look of @deepheat83 effort at taking a team from the bottom of the FMM24 pyramid to the top using only existing and academy players - no signings at all.

In start contrast to the oil money flowing at Human Rights FC in Newcastle, I thought I'd attempt to create a premier league rival with South Shields. Sitting mid-table in the National League North in real life, the expectations were for a top half finish. 

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So here we go...

 

Season 1

The team isn't great and the facilities are both 2 star for training and youth.

Our first youth intake:

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I never trust the star system as I believe its relative to your current squad as opposed to based on PA but I'm happy to have a couple of hot prospects in the first batch. Here are the highlights...

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Jobson has the barebones of a RP which will fit my system well.

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Olusesi has amazing pace so I feel he has more to offer than just a BWM but lets see how he develops.

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Russe can play anywhere so will be a very useful utility player, nice pace too so belongs on the wing somewhere.

 

The result:

I spent the first half of the season trying to get my previous low league tactics to work. We started off playing a "we'll score more than you" approach but after a couple of 7-4 thrillers it really wasn't sustainable. We scored 100 goals but conceded 77. Towards the end of the season I settled on a completely new system which i'm happy with as it's much more stable. I'm hoping it'll work through the divisions.

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It wasn't pretty but we won promotion through the playoffs - a great result. We need a better rep and money to get better facilities and attract better youth.

How did the new boys do?

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Jobson is coming along well with a 7.8 average over the season.

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Olusesi didn't develop too much but I have plans for him for next season.

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I'm training Russe as a winger as expected with the stats but also getting him fully green as full back so he can cover a lot of areas.

Onwards and upwards (hopefully)

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Season 2

Season 1's goals brought the curse of the Entertainer title. All players hate it and i can't get rid of it.

Season 2 brought Star Maker which I'm hoping will help keep the youngsters around so that's a bonus.

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Youth intake:

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Highlights:

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Another B2B midfielder with good pace but with the added high teamwork/work rate. 

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A potentially good GK here but that aerial needs to increase and he's a way off being ready for the first team.

Aside from that, not much else from the academy. Training facilities are 2.5 stars and youth is now 3 star which will help things hopefully.

 

The new tactic is is working nicely but I'm really feeling the lack of signings. Our defence is p!ss poor and really needs new blood.

But, the boys dug in and showed wisdom beyond their years taking us to the VNL title and promotion to the football league.

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Key player development:

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I always felt this boy had more in store than just a BWM (and I don't play a BWM in my new system) so I've moulded him into my star CB with the pace of Van de Ven and the aggression of Romero. He's fast, angry and strong - what's not to love.

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Jobson is playing a vital role in my new system as the deep lying roaming playmaker and although he LOVES a yellow card, he's performed amazingly.

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Here is the system i've settled on. Quite different than anything I've gone with before as I usually like my wingers but this gives me a lot more defensive stability but uses the poplar midfield trio of B2B/RP/B2B to charge forward. 

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There are already 4 of my youngsters in the first team in Hernandez, Jobson, Russe (currently filling in at LB as i have no other options) and Olusesi as the existing team is getting older but they've got a way to go if they're to handle League 2 and beyond.

I really need new defensive options so I've hired a defensive coach to help pull in the defensive youngsters hopefully. Saying that we also need a new striker, new wingers and new full backs so i'll take anything!

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Season 3

Youth intake in our first season in League 2 didn't look too great:

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Highlights:

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I'm hoping he'll turn into a decent full back and like Russe can play down either wing so that helps with depth but he doesn't look great.

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This chap however, only rated 2 stars by my academy head, he looks like he could be pretty decent. Great pace for a 16 year old, good stats in other key areas for a striker. I really need a new striker too so fingers crossed.

 

It was a tight season in the league not helped by the game resetting my tactics a couple of times leading to three losses in a row that I'm sure I could have got a result if I'd paid more attention but we managed to get automatic promotion still saving the stress and potential upset of the play offs.

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Here's how a few key youngsters are progressing...

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A solid box to boxer for me - fast, hardworking and decent all round stats.

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Not progressing hugely but he's fully green as CB now and turning in some nice performances.

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Solid RP, 7.67 rating - decent at free kicks too. 

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Oh hello there! Scored 21 from 39 in his first season at the age of 16. This kid could be special.

 

The team is coming along nicely, but we have no depth and when the fixtures of these leagues pile up we're not doing well so i can see L1 being a big challenge but onwards and upwards.

The club is also skint (£4k transfer budget anyone? I'm glad I'm not dependant on that!) so keep refusing upgrades to training or youth and we're still sitting at 2.5/3 stars.

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Looking good to far mate.

Found that you never get players in the position your require. That or you are overloaded with them.

The amount of right wingers I have at the moment is crazy!!!

Keep going. I didn't manage to get 5 star facilities until I made it to the prem.

You'll be there in no time

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Solid start, and lucky you on your first intake, I got 3 players and in 2nd season 2 GKs 🥲

 

Funnily enough I've just the exact same formation except Poacher up top. Any particular reason you've gone for Advanced Forward?

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Good start will follow this one mate.

Whats your strategy do you just promote all of your youth immediately or do you ever leave them in there to develop ?

I never know which is best…as I’ve always just promoted everyone immediately.

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On 12/01/2024 at 17:16, MikeF said:

Season 2

Season 1's goals brought the curse of the Entertainer title. All players hate it and i can't get rid of it.

Season 2 brought Star Maker which I'm hoping will help keep the youngsters around so that's a bonus.

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Youth intake:

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Highlights:

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Another B2B midfielder with good pace but with the added high teamwork/work rate. 

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A potentially good GK here but that aerial needs to increase and he's a way off being ready for the first team.

Aside from that, not much else from the academy. Training facilities are 2.5 stars and youth is now 3 star which will help things hopefully.

 

The new tactic is is working nicely but I'm really feeling the lack of signings. Our defence is p!ss poor and really needs new blood.

But, the boys dug in and showed wisdom beyond their years taking us to the VNL title and promotion to the football league.

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Key player development:

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I always felt this boy had more in store than just a BWM (and I don't play a BWM in my new system) so I've moulded him into my star CB with the pace of Van de Ven and the aggression of Romero. He's fast, angry and strong - what's not to love.

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Jobson is playing a vital role in my new system as the deep lying roaming playmaker and although he LOVES a yellow card, he's performed amazingly.

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Here is the system i've settled on. Quite different than anything I've gone with before as I usually like my wingers but this gives me a lot more defensive stability but uses the poplar midfield trio of B2B/RP/B2B to charge forward. 

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There are already 4 of my youngsters in the first team in Hernandez, Jobson, Russe (currently filling in at LB as i have no other options) and Olusesi as the existing team is getting older but they've got a way to go if they're to handle League 2 and beyond.

I really need new defensive options so I've hired a defensive coach to help pull in the defensive youngsters hopefully. Saying that we also need a new striker, new wingers and new full backs so i'll take anything!

Can you post what tactical instructions you use please mate and il give it a go with my save.

cheers

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On 12/01/2024 at 21:49, Tubba said:

Solid start, and lucky you on your first intake, I got 3 players and in 2nd season 2 GKs 🥲

 

Funnily enough I've just the exact same formation except Poacher up top. Any particular reason you've gone for Advanced Forward?

I like the movement from an AF and feels he’s tricker to play against whilst also getting involved when we don’t have the ball. I do love a poacher though. 

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4 hours ago, bcfclee27 said:

Can you post what tactical instructions you use please mate and il give it a go with my save.

cheers

Maybe at the end. It takes a while to fine tune a new tactic so I don’t always share. 

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4 hours ago, bcfclee27 said:

Good start will follow this one mate.

Whats your strategy do you just promote all of your youth immediately or do you ever leave them in there to develop ?

I never know which is best…as I’ve always just promoted everyone immediately.

Thanks. For this challenge I’m promoting everyone immediately. If they look like they could add something to the first team squad ill promote them and use them as they develop fastest that way, if they don’t look good enough, I’ll set their training up and then loan them out for a season to see how they develop. 
 

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29 minutes ago, MikeF said:

Thanks. For this challenge I’m promoting everyone immediately. If they look like they could add something to the first team squad ill promote them and use them as they develop fastest that way, if they don’t look good enough, I’ll set their training up and then loan them out for a season to see how they develop. 
 

So I’ve just started my same save in vanarama north and promoted 5 x 16 year olds in first intake.

Have noticed a lot of red arrows so I’m wondering if they’re too young playing in the first team at 16 years.

Did you find this or not ?

My training facilities are the lowest though so could be a factor.

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Season 4

This year’s intake was pretty poor which didn’t help things. 

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The only prospect who looks half decent:

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We started off incredibly sitting comfortably on top of the table 15 games in and then the December fixtures pile up came and without any depth we suffered as usual having to play people out of position or at 80% fitness. 
But we managed to hang on and had a great end to the season, missing out on automatic promotion but managing to beat Reading and Charlton on the play offs with ease to win promotion to the Championship. This is where sh!t gets real. 
 

My best players:

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He’s been great since day 1 and continues to grow.

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Borg is a beast. 40 goals from 50 games he really carried the team. Same hairdresser as Jobson too.

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My star CB continues to develop and should make the step up in divisions with that height boost.

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Another key midfielder for me growing each year. 
 

The rest of my team isn’t great. Well my GK is decent but full backs, one CB and wingers all need improvement.

The board invested in the club and gave us 4 star youth and 3.5 star training facilities which I’m hoping helps and I can get better coaches in the Championship so providing I can stay up and keep my players happy, we should see good growth as the main boys start to hit a good age.

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Saying that, they all want to leave to bigger clubs but I’ve got them tied down on long contracts so I need to manage their egos now. 

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Flying mate,

Keep up the good work,

You'll be there very soon.

 

Whats the end game?

Champions league glory?

 

Got a feeling I might get it this season

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Some great results and some amazing development of the players. Jobson in particular went from 1.5 star rating to one of your best players, contributing goals and assists consistently. Same with Borg - 2 star rating to 5 stars, amazing attributes and insane goal average. Just shows you can't always rely on the coaches rating!

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Season 5

Stepping up to the Championship will be a challenge but with our new 4 star facilities i'm hoping the intake will be better this year. 

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Some 5 star prospects and in the positions I need, LB and CB.

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A left footer finally, i'll train him as my left winger and hope for the best, stats are ok in key areas but he's a way off the first team.

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Another left footer - you wait 5 seasons and then 2 come along at once. I really need a natural left back but we'll need to see how he develops. Good decision making, tackling and work rate for a 16 year old so fingers crossed he can make the step up to the first team at some point. 

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Now he looks interesting. Solid stats all round for a 16 year old, i'll ship him off to an affiliate club and see how he comes along. I have high hopes for this kid.

 

So how did we do? A bit of a struggle at the start unlike other seasons where we started well and then declined, these boys seemed to click and we went from strength to strength. It's a shame we couldn't win the league but second place and automatic promotion is very welcome.

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Player highlights:

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Tyreeq is thriving now and running the midfield.

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Still a solid CB with pace and how he's got a bit more height too. He's a bit of a problem child in wanting to go all the time but i've got him locked down.

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Jobson still doing well but plateauing and gives some inconsistent performances.

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New lad from last year has slotted in nicely as my right winger to displace the last OG from the original South Shields team - we're now fully a team of academy players bar 4 old players on the bench. 

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Borg is still a beast but he's quite injury prone so missed 11 matches compared to last season but a great return for the games he did play in. Also quite inconsistent but that might be due to overplaying him.

And the new boys...

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I recalled my left back from an affiliate club half way through the season when i needed him due to injuries. He did ok, under 7 average rating but has developed nicely so he'll be starting for me next year. 

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Well Howe do you do, Herbie? He's looking great after a year playing in the lower leagues. He's now my 3rd choice CB but reckon he'll be pushing for the first team very soon if he keeps developing.

 

At the end of the season the Board gave me a little treat and bumped us up to 4.5 star youth facilities (although wouldn't improve training facilities) so lets see what next year has to offer us.

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We've come a long way, but the Premiership might be brutal for some of these youngsters.

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Season 6

First season in the prem and first season with 5 star youth facilities (although I think it takes a year for better recruitment to kick in?).

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We had a big intake of players but only a couple really stood out:

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Wonderkid with lots of potential, looks like he'll be a nice fit for my DM/RP position if he develops.

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I like the look of Benton, only 1 star but he has good stats in key areas and a good mentality so lets see how he improves.

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Undecided on this chap so will farm him out on loan and see if he can turn into a decent striker.

That brings me to our performance...

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9th place isn't too bad for the first season in the Prem. We had some good performances, and some bad losses. But the main issues for us is a serious lack of goals with only 3 teams scoring less than us. Luckily we had the best defence in the league so that kept us in a lot of matches but Borg really struggled being our only striker and have wildly inconsistent performances and goal droughts galore.

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His stats are great but perhaps he's too young to lead the line or he's just not getting the service needed.

Other key players:

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As always, a key player in midfield for me.

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Still doing well as CB but is a moody little ****

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Oyeleke stepped up and put in a good shift on the right wing

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Prior was my left winger and won young player of the season in the Prem so we're happy with that.

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Benton - new kid on the block. The only one who stepped up to the first team from this year's intake and he's starting to look like a good player

I'm hoping for a better season this year and getting some kind of European football to help with development of players. 

On the plus side we now have 5 star youth and training facilities.

Oh and no players in the England squad yet but 9 players in the under-21s (4 in the starting 11)

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2 hours ago, deepheat83 said:

Flying through the seasons 

You can get through seasons pretty fast when you don't haver to sorry about signings and only have 11 good players for team selection haha

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20 hours ago, MikeF said:

You can get through seasons pretty fast when you don't haver to sorry about signings and only have 11 good players for team selection haha

Yeah this is very true. 

I was flyin but haven't played much after last seasons Champions League final defeat plus work being crazy!

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Season 7

Second season in the prem went a lot better.

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Youth intake looked decent, although upon closer inspection we only had one guy who looked good, but boy did he look good...

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I changed my tactic to be more attacking halfway through the season and it helped us with goals and results and we managed to scrape a CL place coming in 4th.

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Key players:

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Much better from Borg this year and he's still improving a little bit.

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New left winger has developed really nicely after a loan spell away and is now first choice. 

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Benton continues to do well - future captain here too.

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Howe is a great CB and first choice now too

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The new kid has improved a bit, i should have sent him out on loan in hindsight but needed a back up striker. He was overwhelmed most of the time so didnt improve much, but as he gets older he will and i'm hoping he's a beast. He certainly looks it.

 

We dont have a huge amount of squad depth so the CL will be tough but lets give it a go.

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Season 8

A great season, so close and yet so far. More on that to come. Here's the intake:

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Lots of players came through but only a couple looked decent and there were some right stinkers in the mix.

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He looks like he has potential and has great pace but isn't ready for the first team yet. 

 

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Vlad the lad. Some decent stats, some poor. It's loan time.

 

Anyway onto how we did. 

My tweaked tactic of last season was doing ok, but as my forward line developed i needed to change things up to fit everyone in. I went back to my Spurs tactic (https://fmmvibe.com/forums/topic/49102-jumping-on-the-angeball-bandwagon/) and the boys thrived.

We won the league with a solid defence and a good amount of goals.

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And had a great run in the CL, beating PSG in the league stage

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Barca in the knockout stage:

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And Ajax.

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We even beat Villa in the semi final taking us to a rematch with PSG in the final.

But it wasn't to be. It was a tough match and despite putting 3 past them again, the lads couldn't quite get there and we lost on pens.

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Gutting, but that's the game.

 

Other key events, we got ourselves a nice new stadium:

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And managed to lose a great prospect by me being an idiot and not checking contract expiry dates this year.

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The coaches say he could be world class. Balls.

 

Key players:

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Thats why I needed 3 up top - they're beasts.

 

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Here's hoping for a clean sweep this year.

 

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Season 9

Youth intake:

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Some potential here.

 

The season started with us losing the Community Shield to Arsenal, but things picked up after that...

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I do like my Spurs tactic...

 

I consider that challenge complete. I might play on one more season to get to the CWC but lets see.

 

My top players:

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Crazy to get such good players through the academy so i imagine there was a large element of luck in this. 

And my two OGs. Blackett wasn't near the first team but i made sure he played each season and if he plays one more and retires at the end of his contract as he plans to, I get my son.

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Lukeman was still my first choice RB due to a lack of other options. He played as my RB from VNN all the way to the CL Final and he's still only 27. My guy.

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A couple new titles for me still being unable to shift the Entertainer title but the others were very positive.

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And this is how i leave the club. In hindsight the stadium should have been named after me ;) 

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We also had 4 players in the England squad and 10 players in the U21s.

 

fin.

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At the start I had mostly fitness coaches as found the youngsters that came through had good stamina and that’s key for them to get minutes. 3 fitness 1 general and 1 motivational, or 3 fitness and 2 general. 

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On 20/02/2024 at 16:46, MikeF said:

At the start I had mostly fitness coaches as found the youngsters that came through had good stamina and that’s key for them to get minutes. 3 fitness 1 general and 1 motivational, or 3 fitness and 2 general. 

Wait... Why its 5 coach... didn't the max coaching staff is only 4...sorry I'm still a newbie

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