Help Help with tactics for 1k challenge

[MegaBoi]

I am doing 1k challenge at Celtic with Evan Ferguson and this is my tactic In first season this tactics work very well and Evan Ferguson scored 56 goals in 48 games But in season 2 after scoring 11 goals in 4 matches he went goalless for next 4 matches. So can please someone tell me what am I doing wrong. Where the tactics is wrong

[Tubba]

First thing I would change would be the AP to AM and B2B to a maybe a CM.

Both AP and B2B will look to score goals rather than get it to your striker.

I'm not sure on the impact of BPD in this instance instead of CD, so maybe someone else can shed some light on that.

Look for the obvious things like your wingers being wingers and not IFs (traits, shooting, etc.) and the same for the midfielders.

 

A few of the game-breaker people on here have shared tactics recently too which will give you a good base to work from, however no tactic will suddenly take you to scoring 10 goals per game, your team needs to be superpowered and the opposition very weak.

@Scratch is doing a how-to here and it's incredible!

 

[MikeF]

Here’s my current career too with some info. Scratch’s is way more in depth but follow mine too  

 

[MegaBoi]

15 hours ago, MikeF said:

Here’s my current career too with some info. Scratch’s is way more in depth but follow mine too  

 

I have read your career and I am following it but I want to know how can I create a tactic for 1kc challenge

I have tried lots of different combo but can't get the results. After many tries I have got a tactics that works decent but I think my shape and final third does not suit it

My Formation

G/WB/CD/CD/WB/CM/AP/CDM/W/W/TF

Three midfielders are part of a flat midfield

Shape

Mentality-Balanced

Width-Wide

Temp-Normal

Creative freedom-normal

Defence

Defensive line-Normal

Closing down-all over

Tackling-Normal

Offside trap-off

Final third

Early cross And Run At Defence

Passing style-Short

Passing focus-Both Flanks

GK Distribution-Short

Can you please let me know what is wrong with this and how can I fix that for 70-100 goals a season results

Sorry for not sharing screenshot because I am posting it from my other device

[MikeF]

The main part in any of these challenges is the players. You need to get wonderkids or existing excellent or world class players and train them up to fit the system. No tactic is plug and play. You'll need to get your striker to 20 aerial and you want your wingers at 20 crossing (maybe dribbling and pace too). That's being overly simplistic, but it's very hard to get logs of goals without massively overpowered players doing as very specific job. 

[MegaBoi]

24 minutes ago, MikeF said:

The main part in any of these challenges is the players. You need to get wonderkids or existing excellent or world class players and train them up to fit the system. No tactic is plug and play. You'll need to get your striker to 20 aerial and you want your wingers at 20 crossing (maybe dribbling and pace too). That's being overly simplistic, but it's very hard to get logs of goals without massively overpowered players doing as very specific job. 

I have a really strong squad in season 3 because I bought almost 9-10 wonderkids in season 1 and sell 5 of them for for 700 million and bought rudiger, pay Torres,Dembele on wings and he have 20 Crossing and dribbling, I also found bale's Regen and train him and now he has 17 crossing and 16 dribbling and I hope he will reach 20 Crossing by the end of season,I have fabinho and lobotka in midfield I also have wing backs with good positioning and great crossing my striker Evan Ferguson has 20 aerial 17 Strength,15 pace,17 shooting and I am at Celtic,

After all of this Ferguson have not crossed 70+goals in 3 seasons

Now what can I do after having this powerful squad?

Does I need to start from scratch?

 

[MikeF]

Don’t start over. It’s a long career. It’s never too late to change anything and you’ll be changing a lot throughout. 
 

The main thing I can really suggest is to follow @Scratch’s career as he’s explaining everything amazingly (and mine of course )

Its not a quick thing and takes a lot of work. 

[Scratch]

I'd agree with what everyone said above. Sounds like you should be scoring a lot more.

It can get a little harder from season 2 onwards, as teams will start going even more defensive with you, but if your team is superpowered it can generally cut through this.

There are some tweaks to tactics that I will cover in my thread later on, but it comes down to watching the extended view of the play and seeing where your players get swamped etc. In my my case there are a couple of formations that when the other team is using it, my striker ends up with about 4 players on him! So if he's not getting shots in a game and they are using one of those tactics, then I will move my AM up to a PF next to him - I don't care if the AM is red for the PF position, I just need someone there to draw a couple of defenders off the striker. 

Oh and sometimes it just helps to get a 'new' tactic in case the game has gotten used to your one. By 'new', I don't actually make a new tactic, I just mess around with the instructions (maybe change runs with ball to through balls for eg) or change one role (maybe make and IWB a WB). If that helps, then I keep using that until that stops working and then change back to the original. Note: I haven't actually done this one for a while, not 100% sure it's necessary or even works these days. Most of the time I just make sure my team is really really strong and that makes things work.

From your original screenshot, I would say get rig of Down Both Flanks and see if that helps. I've had cases were I was getting way more crosses with that turned off vs on. And I'd turn off Work Into Box - seems defenses can close you down better when you are passing it around more. 

Apart from that, the other thing to look at is your player's match stats during a game. How many shots is Ferguson getting? Are other players shooting too much? how many crosses are being sent in? etc etc. Maybe post the match stats here to show us?

Also watch the corners and make sure he's not taking the corners and crossing to no-one! Strikers seem to like doing that, so make sure your corner takers list is long so there is always someone on the field who will take them.  Make sure your right sided players are right footed, etc. 

[MegaBoi]

1 hour ago, Scratch said:

I'd agree with what everyone said above. Sounds like you should be scoring a lot more.

It can get a little harder from season 2 onwards, as teams will start going even more defensive with you, but if your team is superpowered it can generally cut through this.

There are some tweaks to tactics that I will cover in my thread later on, but it comes down to watching the extended view of the play and seeing where your players get swamped etc. In my my case there are a couple of formations that when the other team is using it, my striker ends up with about 4 players on him! So if he's not getting shots in a game and they are using one of those tactics, then I will move my AM up to a PF next to him - I don't care if the AM is red for the PF position, I just need someone there to draw a couple of defenders off the striker. 

Oh and sometimes it just helps to get a 'new' tactic in case the game has gotten used to your one. By 'new', I don't actually make a new tactic, I just mess around with the instructions (maybe change runs with ball to through balls for eg) or change one role (maybe make and IWB a WB). If that helps, then I keep using that until that stops working and then change back to the original. Note: I haven't actually done this one for a while, not 100% sure it's necessary or even works these days. Most of the time I just make sure my team is really really strong and that makes things work.

From your original screenshot, I would say get rig of Down Both Flanks and see if that helps. I've had cases were I was getting way more crosses with that turned off vs on. And I'd turn off Work Into Box - seems defenses can close you down better when you are passing it around more. 

Apart from that, the other thing to look at is your player's match stats during a game. How many shots is Ferguson getting? Are other players shooting too much? how many crosses are being sent in? etc etc. Maybe post the match stats here to show us?

Also watch the corners and make sure he's not taking the corners and crossing to no-one! Strikers seem to like doing that, so make sure your corner takers list is long so there is always someone on the field who will take them.  Make sure your right sided players are right footed, etc. 

Thank you @Scrath this is very helpful for me. And soon I will post my match stats here and tactics with I played that matches because as you say some tweaks Can make a lot of difference so I will tweak my Formation and post match stats here so you both can help me out more

[MegaBoi]

I have just completed season 2 in my main save that 3 seasons were in my test save that I was playing since 7th or 8th April

I am sharing a tactic which I used in season 2 because my Ferguson scored 94 goals in this season and can you please let me know what I have to change in my tactics according to tactics I am sharing now. And the tactics is which @Scratch had shared in his ongoing thread. (Introducing weiper how to make a goal scoring legend)

Can one of you explain final third instructions because I think they are most important in this challenge

[MikeF]

10 hours ago, Scratch said:

It can get a little harder from season 2 onwards, as teams will start going even more defensive with you, but if your team is superpowered it can generally cut through this.

Yeah everyone’s 3/5 at the back for me now 🙄 

[MegaBoi]

I want to ask one more thing. 

In my striker Evan Ferguson's training page there is showing that Being over played does that affect the goal scoring numbers?

[MegaBoi]

On 26/04/2024 at 05:22, Scratch said:

I'd agree with what everyone said above. Sounds like you should be scoring a lot more.

It can get a little harder from season 2 onwards, as teams will start going even more defensive with you, but if your team is superpowered it can generally cut through this.

There are some tweaks to tactics that I will cover in my thread later on, but it comes down to watching the extended view of the play and seeing where your players get swamped etc. In my my case there are a couple of formations that when the other team is using it, my striker ends up with about 4 players on him! So if he's not getting shots in a game and they are using one of those tactics, then I will move my AM up to a PF next to him - I don't care if the AM is red for the PF position, I just need someone there to draw a couple of defenders off the striker. 

Oh and sometimes it just helps to get a 'new' tactic in case the game has gotten used to your one. By 'new', I don't actually make a new tactic, I just mess around with the instructions (maybe change runs with ball to through balls for eg) or change one role (maybe make and IWB a WB). If that helps, then I keep using that until that stops working and then change back to the original. Note: I haven't actually done this one for a while, not 100% sure it's necessary or even works these days. Most of the time I just make sure my team is really really strong and that makes things work.

From your original screenshot, I would say get rig of Down Both Flanks and see if that helps. I've had cases were I was getting way more crosses with that turned off vs on. And I'd turn off Work Into Box - seems defenses can close you down better when you are passing it around more. 

Apart from that, the other thing to look at is your player's match stats during a game. How many shots is Ferguson getting? Are other players shooting too much? how many crosses are being sent in? etc etc. Maybe post the match stats here to show us?

Also watch the corners and make sure he's not taking the corners and crossing to no-one! Strikers seem to like doing that, so make sure your corner takers list is long so there is always someone on the field who will take them.  Make sure your right sided players are right footed, etc. 

I have implemented all things you said. I made my squad strongest squad in the league and I turn off work ball into box but I stayed with passing focus on both flanks and that worked very good for me average 40 crosses per game but only 15-20 crosses against big teams like City,Barca,Madrid etc . I tweak my Formation a bit now I have only one cb

This is my tactic now-

A full season with this tactics and boom my Ferguson scored 130 goals and my wingers got many assists

My main winger who is bale's Regen he cheap in with 47 assist in 45 games all though he only has 17 crossing but he does the work better than Dembele who has 20 Crossing but he only cheaps in 27 assist in 41 games I think that's because off my bale's Regen takes corners for me. And sorry for not sharing screenshot of players stats.

[MikeF]

How are Ferguson stats now? Screenshot?

[MegaBoi]

59 minutes ago, MikeF said:

How are Ferguson stats now? Screenshot?

Here are my Ferguson's stats after 3 seasons I don't know why he's dribbling drops

Also I am sharing stats of all my wingers

Doak was my substitute winger in season one but this season Dembele got injured for 3 weeks so he takes on the roll of starter and does better then Dembele

He was substitute winger for bale's Regen and started some games as well

He is bale's Regen and with only 17 crossing he does better then all other 3 wingers and i don't know why he's crossing has stuck on 17 from past 6-8 months

And finally here is Dembele's stats and I am very disappointed with him because with these stats he should be my main supplier be he isn't

And yeah I have used editor in this because I wanted Ferguson's stamina more so I changed his stamina from 16 to 17 and I only used editor for this after some while I will do this challenge again without a single use of editor and you can understand me because I am not that old player of this game I have started playing this game recently and found this website for tactics but found this cool challenge so...

Edited April 28, 2024 by MegaBoi

[MikeF]

Editor 🙄 

[MegaBoi]

12 minutes ago, MikeF said:

Editor 🙄 

If you want it without a single use of editor then from tomorrow I will start a thread on 1kc but if on one condition if you follow my thread all the way and give me instructions time to time. Because I know you can understand the pain of a new player with game engine and tactics

[Dai_]

You only used editor to change Ferguson's stamina? Yeah, having £180m at Celtic to buy Dembele is just how it is.... 🙄😂

[MegaBoi]

That is rich benafactor I doesn't have any good winger so I used rich benafactor but after using it I read the rules of this challenge and made a mistake and now form tomorrow I will do this challenge again and with all rules without any cheating

And I am inviting you to come tomorrow on my thread and I hope you will come and analyze my challenge and help me in the way

Edited April 28, 2024 by MegaBoi

[MikeF]

5 hours ago, MegaBoi said:

If you want it without a single use of editor then from tomorrow I will start a thread on 1kc but if on one condition if you follow my thread all the way and give me instructions time to time. Because I know you can understand the pain of a new player with game engine and tactics

No. But thanks for the offer. 

[MegaBoi]

4 hours ago, MikeF said:

No. But thanks for the offer. 

No no no. This can't be accepted I have started the save and posted on my new thread and you have to come and have to give direction to your younger brother.

[deepheat83]

On 25/04/2024 at 15:02, MegaBoi said:

I have a really strong squad in season 3 because I bought almost 9-10 wonderkids in season 1 and sell 5 of them for for 700 million

Wow, that is very impressive, sold 5 players with Celtic in the 3rd season for an average of £140 million.

But why sign them if you are not going to develop them?

[MegaBoi]

2 hours ago, deepheat83 said:

Wow, that is very impressive, sold 5 players with Celtic in the 3rd season for an average of £140 million.

But why sign them if you are not going to develop them?

Because I wanted to use different players and now I have started this challenge over again today and I hope I can complete this challenge with weiper in 7-9 seasons

Hey can you suggest a good affordable mentor for weiper

[deepheat83]

39 minutes ago, MegaBoi said:

Because I wanted to use different players and now I have started this challenge over again today and I hope I can complete this challenge with weiper in 7-9 seasons

Hey can you suggest a good affordable mentor for weiper

Giroud, can usually get him for about 10 million 

[MegaBoi]

3 hours ago, deepheat83 said:

Giroud, can usually get him for about 10 million 

Thanks I will surely go for him in January transfer window

At this time I am in November

[MegaBoi]

23 hours ago, deepheat83 said:

 

 

[MegaBoi]

I am having another problem can someone know a good young wingback with good potential for future because I am having a problem to find one

[deepheat83]

3 hours ago, MegaBoi said:

I am having another problem can someone know a good young wingback with good potential for future because I am having a problem to find one

Left or right?

[MegaBoi]

Right.

In fact I want for both sides but a good left back has came from my academy so now I just want right wing back

[MegaBoi]

Can someone tell me what is this happening with my new save

On average team is attempting 40-45 crosses per game but only 10-15 crosses completed. Why this is happening I have fairly good wingers with 15+ crossing.