Help How to use Speedy Striker in higher leagues?

[MegaBoi]

I am playing this game for 6-7 monthes now but I have never seen a low aerial but speedy striker scoring 50-60 goals a season. I tried many different tactics but my speedy striker never scored more than 30 goals in a season.

If someone know how to make them score more goals then please help.

[Rjgreeno]

I would like to know this as well. Using a formation kind of similar to the black hawk and have got a striker with 11 aerial to get about 30 goals in a season but never more.

[DanEnglish]

It’s easier if you know what type of goals you want him to score:

• through balls? Then have a low / mid defensive line (so there’s more space behind the opposition defense) … plus lots of movement up front (like with a DLF partner(s) to drag away the opposition DCs) … plus lots of players to play those through balls (DLFs, wide APs, central APs/RPs/B2Bs) … with a central passing focus.
• counter attack / direct / long balls? Then also a low / mid defensive line (same reason) … perhaps with a partner TM(s) to head on the ball … with faster direct / long passes.
• intense press? High line + high press … with multiple supporting PF / SS / DW roles … and lots of players forward (like a 4231, not a 41221)
• low / early crosses? mixed passing (so your wide players get the ball) … wide attacking roles (like DWs, WMs, wingers, wide APs) … perhaps early crosses on … perhaps a mid / wide width to stretch the play …

The alternative is to have the lower aerial attackers as wide IFs, and the higher aerial attacker as the central ST(s).

Thoughts? 🙂 

[DanEnglish]

PS. Here was a conversation about how to best use speedy strikers in FMM22 - with a short poll about peoples preferences!

[DanEnglish]

A here are 3 tactics I tested - together with the number of goals scored by ‘8’ aerial Rashford as our central ST - in standardized half-season tests

• black hawk - 19 goals in 22 games (though only 7 goals in 15 league games)
• ‘tweaked’ black hawk with IWBs - 14 goals in 23 games (with 12 in 16 league games)
• ‘updated + great again’ welcome to Wrexham 441 - 18 in 23 games (didn’t record how many in league vs cups)

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[MegaBoi]

55 minutes ago, DanEnglish said:

It’s easier if you know what type of goals you want him to score:

• through balls? Then have a low / mid defensive line (so there’s more space behind the opposition defense) … plus lots of movement up front (like with a DLF partner(s) to drag away the opposition DCs) … plus lots of players to play those through balls (DLFs, wide APs, central APs/RPs/B2Bs) … with a central passing focus.
• counter attack / direct / long balls? Then also a low / mid defensive line (same reason) … perhaps with a partner TM(s) to head on the ball … with faster direct / long passes.
• intense press? High line + high press … with multiple supporting PF / SS / DW roles … and lots of players forward (like a 4231, not a 41221)
• low / early crosses? mixed passing (so your wide players get the ball) … wide attacking roles (like DWs, WMs, wingers, wide APs) … perhaps early crosses on … perhaps a mid / wide width to stretch the play …

The alternative is to have the lower aerial attackers as wide IFs, and the higher aerial attacker as the central ST(s).

Thoughts? 🙂 

I want to get goals with through balls. 

I tried low and mid defensive line but as you say have lots of movement up front. I genuinely never tried it. I will try it.

You have mentioned use wide APs. But I think they will drift in and will try to take shots.(I think so..)

I also try counter attack as you say I will use a TF partner. But in your opinion which roll will be best for my Speedy striker AF or P?

My thoughts on intense pressure is that will only work when you have a strong back line with a strong goalkeeper.

And as low/early cross I don't like it.

At last what will be final third instructions like I would like to get goals with through balls then in sense through balls is first. But what other like SOS or WBIB? Look for overlap or Early cross? Or turn all off.

And I also want to say that I have read threads which are on tactical help and see everyone mention your name for tactical help. And I am glas that you have reached my thread and helping me with this. 

[MegaBoi]

1 hour ago, DanEnglish said:

PS. Here was a conversation about how to best use speedy strikers in FMM22 - with a short poll about peoples preferences!

Thank you for sharing this I will take a look at it.

[MegaBoi]

27 minutes ago, DanEnglish said:

A here are 3 tactics I tested - together with the number of goals scored by ‘8’ aerial Rashford as our central ST - in standardized half-season tests

• black hawk - 19 goals in 22 games (though only 7 goals in 15 league games)
• ‘tweaked’ black hawk with IWBs - 14 goals in 23 games (with 12 in 16 league games)
• ‘updated + great again’ welcome to Wrexham 441 - 18 in 23 games (didn’t record how many in league vs cups)

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I want to ask couple of things.

I recently discovered this platform for FMM players. I take look at lots of tactics.

But I see black hawk tactics many times. I want to ask what is black hawk tactics? Like a tactical style? Or the name of person who created this?

And then there is plug and play. What is plug and play? With name it seems like we plug opposition with 7 or 8 players. Out number their defenders like have 8 attackers against their 6 defenders. Is it right definition of plug and play?

[DanEnglish]

Great questions.

Firstly Black Hawk is the name of a user here, but usually refers to his popular 'Black Hawk' tactic - see link below. Many people (including myself) recommend it.

Secondly, plug and play refers to a playing style - where you can setup a tactic and don't need to tweak / change it, which makes it very easy / quick to play the game & progress through the season. The Black Hawk tactic above is an example of a more-suitable 'plug and play' tactic, where you absolutely could do that ... some more experienced players (but not all) prefer to make many tweaks to their tactic in each game: depending on their players, the opposition tactics, the score at different points in the match. If someone complains that they continually concede late goals, that's probably (but not always) because they are not tweaking their tactics in the last 10-30 mins of a match to hold onto a narrow lead.

Hope this helps! 🙂 

[MegaBoi]

So i would like to ask some more things.

Like how I can create a 'plug and play' tactic? Using all attacking roles in midfield like RPs BBMs? WB? A PF as central striker?

What team instructions would be? like mentality? I think mentality should be attacking or maybe overload if you have a dominating squad.

And defensive instructions is as usual high line and closing down all over. That is I see in every plug and play tactic.

And final third instructions. I'll be honest I don't have knowledge about how they work or which instructions I need to give upon my player roles.

But as of plug and play I think shoot on sight and run at defence. I think so...

And also the main topic of this thread. I want to get goals with through balls for my pacy striker.

So what roll I should give him? P or AF?

And as of mentality which will work better defensive,counter or balanced or control?

[DanEnglish]

Which club are you going to be? Which pacy striker will you use? Which players will be your main creators / assisters? Any other major transfers in/out (vs the games starting squad)?

Plus what are your preferences around tactical formation, tactical style, etc? 🙂 

Edited May 15, 2024 by DanEnglish

[MegaBoi]

I am going to choose Aston villa.

I will use inaki Williams as my pacy striker. As I remember his pace is around 17-18.

My main creaters who is in my mind are Nkunku,Tielemans,Calvin stengs. Stangs has 16 passing and 16 creativity,Joy veerman.

Not any other major transfers in but I am think to sell Watkins as with his sell I can get a fair good amount.

I will use 4-2-3-1 formation. With 1 AP at AMC position one RP and BWM. Two IFs.

I don't get what you mean by tactical style? Is it the tactical template available in game like gegenpress or tiki taka?

[DanEnglish]

PS. Check this guide out - should be a decent start 👍 

 

[MegaBoi]

13 minutes ago, DanEnglish said:

PS. Check this guide out - should be a decent start 👍 

 

Thanks for this brother.

This is little complex for me to understand but surely It will help alot me for create my tactics.

And one thing the player roles chart is awful. I think only god or experienced can understand that because the only thing I understand from it that stop looking at it if not then my mind will blow.

Again thanks for your help.

[DanEnglish]

7 hours ago, MegaBoi said:

I will use 4-2-3-1 formation. With 1 AP at AMC position one RP and BWM. Two IFs.

If you’ve already decided this - then maybe I recommend my tactic here which matches what you want … 🙂 …

 
If you want more through balls, then I recommend:

• Balanced Line - Changing the defensive line to ‘balanced’ (for more room behind the opposition defense)
• Wide PF ? - If you have a weaker IF, perhaps due to injuries / rotation, change that IF’s role to a PF (so they do more pressing).
• IWB + ‘Central’ - if you’d like more passing through the center + fewer crosses, then switch on ‘central’ passing focus + change one FB to an IWB (the one on the same flank / side as your B2B).

This should work nicely 🔥 as a base for you to have a ‘plug and play’ tactic … and for you to make your own tactic from.

[MegaBoi]

Does attacking mentality doesn't affect the numbers of through balls being played. Because players will go more higher in the pitch and I think once they gone higher on the pitch then there will be short space to play a through ball. This is my thought

As I wants to play more through balls then I will need more creativity in the midfield. So I think changing BBM to RP will work.

These are my thoughts.

What's yours?

[DanEnglish]

About mentality, I’ve noticed (but no screenshots / no stats) that:

• On more attacking mentalities, wide APs should play a lot of high risk / high reward passes like through balls.
• On more defensive mentalities, wide APs are surprisingly good for finding space to receive the ball, then keeping / recycling possession in a low-risk way!

Also about mentality - you can read my thoughts about what it actually does in the match engine <here>

About RPs vs B2Bs:

• I have no idea if RPs play more through balls. I’d hope it’s true, but have never tested it.
  What I have tested and evidenced is ‘how they move’ which is documented (with screenshots) on the RPs vs B2Bs post in this thread <here>

Hope this is ‘food for thought’ 🙂 

[MegaBoi]

Now I know how RPs and BBMs work in game

But here's a question

Like you showed that RPs move centrally so if I use 3 RPs like one at dm position and 2 in cm position and 2 if with counter or balanced mentality with narrow width. Then RPs in cm position will go outside the opposition box while dm one will hold him in MC position because of mentality. It makes sense isn't it?

And as 2 cm position RPs will move up centrally then there will be space for my IF/IW/wide AP.

This all make sense. right?

And I can have 2 IWBs to fill the gap that left behind by RPs and then this will make our Central play more strong. Right?

I would like to know your thoughts