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How Pressing Forword works


The Inspiration.

I have tried pressing forword In the past but always for support. Never able to get Pressing Forword score. And I thought from their description that they press and creates chances for others to exploit. But recently I tried Black hawk and I was shocked because in that tactics Pressing Forword scored 45 goals for me in just 39 games. But How?

 

Main Question.

How Pressing Forword works in the game engine and how it scored 40+ Goals in Black hawk without an Aerially strong striker?

Can someone explain all the Striker roles how they works in game engine?

I am counting on @DanEnglish @Black Hawk @Bolajoko 

Please do explain.

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First can we ask - which club and which player did you get the 45 goals from 39 games? Screenshots please so we can see that striker’s attributes 🙂 

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59 minutes ago, DanEnglish said:

First can we ask - which club and which player did you get the 45 goals from 39 games? Screenshots please so we can see that striker’s attributes 🙂 

Welcome Dan and thanks for coming.

I was at Sporting And the Striker was Viktor Gyokeres. First season attributes.

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These are the Attributes. I was playing with base Sporting without any Transfers.

The Tactics was Black Hawk base on for 24 Version.

If you need anything more than just ask.

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Disclaimers - I haven’t used a central PF often, and my main test of the black hawk was in FMM23.

Below you can see my analysis of Rashford as a PF during my FMM23 black hawk test. He was pretty good with 0.8 (non-penalty) goals per league match.

You can see more details <here>

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4 hours ago, MegaBoi said:

I was at Sporting And the Striker was Viktor Gyokeres. First season attributes.

I would say part of the reason is that you have a near-elite forward in a weaker league

<edit: perhaps also some goals against very weak domestic cup opposition?>

  • If you used Gyokeres at Arsenal / Newcastle / etc, then I think you’d get good results, but not great. Perhaps somewhere around 0.8 to 1.0 goals per league game including penalties and free kicks (similar to my Rashford’s 0.8 goals per game, excluding penalties and free kicks)
     
  • If you used Gyokeres in China, or with Celtic, then I’d expect perhaps 1.5 to 2.0 goals per game as a guess.

In this sense, I think it’s about the player vs the opposition quality. I don’t think it’s about the role - PF and AF should both work well for him 👍 

Thoughts? 🙂

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1 minute ago, DanEnglish said:

I would say part of the reason is that you have a near-elite forward in a weaker league.

  • If you used Gyokeres at Arsenal / Newcastle / etc, then I think you’d get good results, but not great. Perhaps somewhere around 1.0 goals per league game including penalties and free kicks.  
     
  • If you used Gyokeres in China, or with Celtic, then I’d expect 2.0 goals per game.

In this sense, I think it’s about the player vs the opposition quality. I don’t think it’s about the role - PF and AF should both work well for him 👍 

Thoughts? 🙂

That means it depends on the competition my Striker is facing.

The weaker competition means Great results. And the Stronger the competition means good to average results. Am I right?

If am right and according to this I cannot achieve these numbers in league like premier league?

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?

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2 minutes ago, MegaBoi said:

If am right and according to this I cannot achieve these numbers in league like premier league?

See my second post 😉 which I probably posted while you were typing!

6 minutes ago, DanEnglish said:

If you used Gyokeres at Arsenal / Newcastle / etc, then I think you’d get good results, but not great. Perhaps somewhere around 0.8 to 1.0 goals per league game including penalties and free kicks (similar to my Rashford’s 0.8 goals per game, excluding penalties and free kicks)

 
Thoughts? 🙂

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3 minutes ago, DanEnglish said:

😉

🙂

I think You are fairly right. Gyokeres struggled to score in CL big matches.

It means that it is Impossible to achieve these number in PL?

I recently saw a Thread of @Bolajoko Where he used Young Manquent and Scored around 35 goals in his first season in Ligue-1.

So is it possible to get those numbers against Strong opposition like @Bolajokodid?

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?

 

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6 minutes ago, MegaBoi said:

I recently saw a Thread of @Bolajoko Where he used Young Manquent and Scored around 35 goals in his first season in Ligue-1.

So is it possible to get those numbers against Strong opposition like @Bolajokodid?

You think the French league-1 is ‘strong’? Like Portugal, there’s a few string clubs, but the rest are much weaker.

Sure France’s top league is probably a little better than Portugal’s top league - BUT the more difficult / competitive leagues for Gyokeres would be England, Germany, Italy, and probably Spain.

8 minutes ago, MegaBoi said:

It means that it is Impossible to achieve these number in PL?

Not impossible, but unlikely. I’d expect 0.8 to 1.0 goals per game, if you have Gyokeres taking penalties and direct free kicks.

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What I am trying to find out is can I get those numbers with Any other striker in PL? (Other then Haaland)

What do you think is it possible with a High Pa Striker or a Player?

I still remember @Dai_ His split Challenge with Yamal where he got Unreal numbers that means I can get over 40-50 goals in PL with a High Pa player if I Play my cards right?

And what do you think how big Role tactics play in getting these type of numbers?

I AM RELYING HEAVILY ON YOU MAN. CAUSE I HEARD YOU ARE PEP OF FM🗿🗿

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Haha I’m not the ‘goal-scoring’ guy here. You should look up this thread to see how to MAXIMISE your striker’s goals

 
Absolutely you can get a striker to score +1.0 goals per game in the EPL:

  • You’d want a world class striker (Mbappe, Haaland, Kane, Salah, etc)
  • Or a very high potential striker who you painstakingly train up over 5-10 seasons
  • and you definitely should pick a more attacking tactic, where all your other outfield players are supporting your ST to score.

Makes sense?

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What do you mean by the "Writing test of message now"?

So what do you think Who can help me with this problem?

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2 minutes ago, MegaBoi said:

What do you mean by the "Writing test of message now"?

I had clicked ‘submit’ too early on that post by accident. So needed an extra few mins to edit my post above 👍 

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1 minute ago, DanEnglish said:

I had clicked ‘submit’ too early on that post by accident. So needed an extra few mins to edit my post above 👍 

Sometimes writing quickly can cause some misunderstandings.

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7 minutes ago, DanEnglish said:

Haha I’m not the ‘goal-scoring’ guy here. You should look up this thread to see how to MAXIMISE your striker’s goals

 
Absolutely you can get a striker to score +1.0 goals per game in the EPL:

  • You’d want a world class striker (Mbappe, Haaland, Kane, etc)
  • Or a very high potential striker who you painstakingly train up over 5-10 seasons
  • and you definitely should pick a more attacking tactic, where all your other outfield players are supporting your ST to score.

Makes sense?

Thanks Dan I will look up this thread.

And yeah Having a World class striker to score goals in PL makes sense. 

Now I will read this thread and Then I will eat head 🗣️ of the Vibers of completed unreal challenges to learn their experiences.

And yeah everyone was right.

YOU ARE SURELY PEP OF FM MOBILE🗿🗿

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5 hours ago, MegaBoi said:

I think You are fairly right. Gyokeres struggled to score in CL big matches.

It means that it is Impossible to achieve these number in PL?

I recently saw a Thread of @Bolajoko Where he used Young Manquent and Scored around 35 goals in his first season in Ligue-1.

So is it possible to get those numbers against Strong opposition like @Bolajokodid?

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?

 

My experiences with PFs ii mixed because I haven't studied them I alot of situations e.g Creative expression settings

All I know is the press higher up the pitch and they operate based of 

1. The team tactics i.e whether is in creative approach or an individual approach

2. The player teamwork attributes for instance pressing forward with a high teamwork attribute model bring back the ball higher up the pitch and pass to teammates who have better chances or creative teammates 

While a person forward with a low teamwork attribute would take the ball and would fashion chances for himself 

Then again to further know if your player is effective take a look at the shorts per game over 5 matches if the strike are doesn't get majority of the shots then change the role of the player getting the most shots to a supporting role.

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7 minutes ago, Bolajoko said:

My experiences with PFs ii mixed because I haven't studied them I alot of situations e.g Creative expression settings

All I know is the press higher up the pitch and they operate based of 

1. The team tactics i.e whether is in creative approach or an individual approach

2. The player teamwork attributes for instance pressing forward with a high teamwork attribute model bring back the ball higher up the pitch and pass to teammates who have better chances or creative teammates 

While a person forward with a low teamwork attribute would take the ball and would fashion chances for himself 

Then again to further know if your player is effective take a look at the shorts per game over 5 matches if the strike are doesn't get majority of the shots then change the role of the player getting the most shots to a supporting role.

Learned something knew.

I never look at the stats of matches and always thinks that Striker isn't good enough. But I think I should start to look at match stats.

And I am playing with my Tactics to Get Trequartista work. I don't know what to do To get Teq Work.

I know if I'll be able to Find out how to get Treq to work than I think I can Create another Messi💀

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36 minutes ago, MegaBoi said:

Learned something knew.

I never look at the stats of matches and always thinks that Striker isn't good enough. But I think I should start to look at match stats.

And I am playing with my Tactics to Get Trequartista work. I don't know what to do To get Teq Work.

I know if I'll be able to Find out how to get Treq to work than I think I can Create another Messi💀

My experiences with treq has been wonderful, use them in the AMC position 

And watch the magic

I mostly use a PF or CF when I use a Treq as an attacking midfielder 

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Just now, Bolajoko said:

My experiences with treq has been wonderful, use them in the AMC position 

And watch the magic

I mostly use a PF or CF when I use a Treq as an attacking midfielder 

Didn't happen that magic with me.

I don't know why? I don't know what is keep going wrong that my Treq never works.

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I used these two as Treq But neither worked. Here Ayala is Messi's regen and I don't know about the other.

If you know some tricks then do share 😶🌫️

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17 minutes ago, MegaBoi said:

Didn't happen that magic with me.

I don't know why? I don't know what is keep going wrong that my Treq never works.

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I used these two as Treq But neither worked. Here Ayala is Messi's regen and I don't know about the other.

If you know some tricks then do share 😶🌫️

Finally someone asking for my knowledge on  Treq

So the static midfield actually helps a lot by locking down the midfield and defense it gives the freedom to the Treq to roam higher up the pitch since  they don't press at all and their usually higher up the pitch ever time.

This is mostly where I would recommend midfield combinations like

BBM and DLP (and an IWB on the BBM side) 

And have one winger stay wide like maybe in an AF or W role so there'll be space for the Treq to work

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Just now, Bolajoko said:

Finally someone asking for my knowledge on  Treq

I know man this is so weird That no one talks about a role as powerful as Treq.

 

1 minute ago, Bolajoko said:

Finally someone asking for my knowledge on  Treq

So the static midfield actually helps a lot by locking down the midfield and defense it gives the freedom to the Treq to roam higher up the pitch since  they don't press at all and their usually higher up the pitch ever time.

This is mostly where I would recommend midfield combinations like

BBM and DLP (and an IWB on the BBM side) 

And have one winger stay wide like maybe in an AF or W role so there'll be space for the Treq to work

So you are saying Static midfield can Help Treq?

And what you suggest for the Striker what role the striker will acquire? One Winger wide and Another one I can use IF for Support to Treq.

And another thing which one will you use as Treq. Ayala or Alba?

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58 minutes ago, MegaBoi said:

I know man this is so weird That no one talks about a role as powerful as Treq.

 

So you are saying Static midfield can Help Treq?

And what you suggest for the Striker what role the striker will acquire? One Winger wide and Another one I can use IF for Support to Treq.

And another thing which one will you use as Treq. Ayala or Alba?

Ayala

and  team mentalities like counter doesn't work with the role only control or attacking 

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14 minutes ago, Bolajoko said:

Ayala

and  team mentalities like counter doesn't work with the role only control or attacking 

This is it. I caught my mistake I was using Counter mentality now I will switch it to Control.

And I am having some issue with Which striker roll to use.

Best option seems are either DLF or a PF.

What are your thoughts on striker role

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