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[thedank7]

Hey guys ... Just a quick random one but some things I've never quite figured out like who plays your through balls? Is it your cm/bbm/ap etc or your inside forwards but they "run directly at the center of the oppositions defence" or does it depend on your formation or if a player has high passing!?! The directional arrows suggest it's through the middle and deep but very rarely do I see through balls happening/working also ....

Who or when is overlapping  using that tactic?? surely not your inside forwards that'd defeat the point and a WB role anyway is to "fulfill all the attacking and defensive duties" so shouldn't he be overlapping anyway!!? Maybe there's a chat alresdy explaing any in game instructions but apart from a few I don't see these things happening.

[MegaBoi]

Firstly I noticed that AP is the role that plays most through balls. But they are not always from middle and not only from attacking players.

I noticed that Sometimes if your passing type is mixed then the BPDs can also play those deadly lob through balls. I would also like to know your tactics to help better.

And one thing also I recently started using AP on AM/R or AM/L position. And the thing is that the space where they operate (Dan showed in his Roles thread)They becomes very dangerous.

And the Overlap thing I don't know that much.

[TheManager]

So the role that plays your through balls or give you breakthrough pass/progressive pass in Deep Lying Playmaker (DLP). They are holding midfielder will positioning in DM area and will give long range pass. Player that play in this position is Toni Kroos.

Advanced Playmaker (AP) is the role that positioning in attacking area, usually in attacking midfield, and will likely to creating assist for teammate. But they don't plays through balls since their position more advanced than Deep Lying Playmaker. Player that play in this position is Florian Wirtz.

Central Midfielder (CM), Box To Box Midfielder (BBM), and Roaming Playmaker (RPM) is you can say runner midfielder. They will contribute in attacking and defending and will give progressive carries. The difference is to put it simple, B2B will focusing more in defending since this role will arrive late in opposition area, RPM will focusing more in creative since this role is playmaker, and CM will focusing more in attacking. Beside that CM will stay centrally, while B2B and RPM will roam in other area such as width area (winger and full back area). Player that play in this position is Steven Gerrard/Lampard/Federico Valverde (CM), Jude Bellingham (B2B), and Luka Modric (RPM). 

Anchor (A) and Ball Winning Midfielder (BWM) is role that focusing more in defending. They will intercepting moves, winning the ball, and pass the ball to creative role (DLP, AP, RPM). The difference is Anchor will stay in their position and will not move no matter what. They will not pressing nor will help in attacking. Meanwhile BWM will roam in their position and will intensively pressing enemy to win the ball. BWM will help with attacking and help with possession. Player that play in this position is Rodri/Busquets/Roy Keane/Patrick Vieira/Makelele (Anchorman) and N'golo Kante/Casemiro/Fabinho (BWM).

Inside Forward (IF) is winger that will cut inside (dribbling with the ball and suddenly changing direction towards the center of the field, heading towards the opposing team's penalty box). They simply will dribble to the central area and focusing more in scoring. Player that play in this position is Cristiano Ronaldo/Vinicius Junior/Mbappe. 

 

I don't understand about your second paragraph, but you can use DLP to plays your through balls and inside forward will receive the ball to scoring. In real life it's Kroos and Vini, Kroos will give long range pass and Vini will receive the ball and scoring. 

 

[MegaBoi]

4 hours ago, TheManager said:

 

Central Midfielder (CM), Box To Box Midfielder (BBM), and Roaming Playmaker (RPM) is you can say runner midfielder. They will contribute in attacking and defending and will give progressive carries. The difference is to put it simple, B2B will focusing more in defending since this role will arrive late in opposition area, RPM will focusing more in creative since this role is playmaker, and CM will focusing more in attacking. Beside that CM will stay centrally, while B2B and RPM will roam in other area such as width area (winger and full back area). Player that play in this position is Steven Gerrard/Lampard/Federico Valverde (CM), Jude Bellingham (B2B), and Luka Modric (RPM).

You explained how every role works in game. But I think you are little bit wrong about the CM role. Cause in Game Engine CM role is a conservative role. Which stays centrel and contribute least in attack. And you have mentioned that they help in attack. Which is a bit wrong in my opinion.

 

And the thing About DLP. I think they are just shit. Never gave assists for me. Only like 2 or 3 assist in whole season and avg rating of only 6 or 7. Never seen a DLP getting a avg rating above 8 in a match.

If you know something than that is different thing .

[TheManager]

1 hour ago, MegaBoi said:

You explained how every role works in game. But I think you are little bit wrong about the CM role. Cause in Game Engine CM role is a conservative role. Which stays centrel and contribute least in attack. And you have mentioned that they help in attack. Which is a bit wrong in my opinion.

 

And the thing About DLP. I think they are just shit. Never gave assists for me. Only like 2 or 3 assist in whole season and avg rating of only 6 or 7. Never seen a DLP getting a avg rating above 8 in a match.

If you know something than that is different thing .

oh right, bit misleading about that, CM is more link between defence and attack or you can say that this role help greatly on transitioning. They will carry the ball, hold the play, wait for teammate to overlapping, and simple pass it to the teammate. As I mentioned before, they play more centrally unlike B2B or RPM who roam in other area. 

DLP doesn't mean always give assist, they give progressive pass or you can say long range pass from defensive third. The mobile version combine all pass into the one (excluding key pass since they are different). DLP also holding more instead roaming, they will stay in front of defender. That's why they rarely get good rating cuz the rating favour more on attacking player. To find right DLP, you need to have player who have good passing, creativity, and decision (with good defending attributes ofc). 

Edited June 11 by TheManager

[MegaBoi]

15 minutes ago, TheManager said:

oh right, bit misleading about that, CM is more link between defence and attack or you can say that this role help greatly on transitioning. They will carry the ball, hold the play, wait for teammate to overlapping, and simple pass it to the teammate. As I mentioned before, they play more centrally unlike B2B or RPM who roam in other area. 

DLP doesn't mean always give assist, they give progressive pass or you can say long range pass from defensive third. The mobile version combine all pass into the one (excluding key pass since they are different). DLP also holding more instead roaming, they will stay in front of defender. That's why they rarely get good rating cuz the rating favour more on attacking player. To find right DLP, you need to have player who have good passing, creativity, and decision (with good defending attributes ofc). 

Agreed on everything mate.

And now I know why my DLP gets shitty ratings.

[DanEnglish]

1 hour ago, TheManager said:

DLP doesn't mean always give assist, they give progressive pass or you can say long range pass from defensive third

Agreed. They’re more likely to give a ‘pre-assist’ which won’t give them any in-game stats (I.e. the game doesn’t count ‘pre-assists’) & no so boost in their average ratings.

[MegaBoi]

2 minutes ago, DanEnglish said:

Agreed. They’re more likely to give a ‘pre-assist’ which won’t give them any in-game stats (I.e. the game doesn’t count ‘pre-assists’) & no so boost in their average ratings.

PEP GUARDIOLA OF FM IS HERE🫡🫡

[DanEnglish]

3 minutes ago, MegaBoi said:

PEP GUARDIOLA OF FM IS HERE🫡🫡

Haha. No - I just post more often than most others here in the past year or two. Actually @TheManager’s reply was more Pep worthy 👍 

Edit - PS. I’m not sure which roles play the most through balls. I’d have similar guesses as the above answers, but haven’t actually looked / explored / investigated this in a long time.

Edited June 11 by DanEnglish

[MegaBoi]

1 hour ago, DanEnglish said:

Haha. No - I just post more often than most others here in the past year or two. Actually @TheManager’s reply was more Pep worthy 👍 

Edit - PS. I’m not sure which roles play the most through balls. I’d have similar guesses as the above answers, but haven’t actually looked / explored / investigated this in a long time.

I am getting a good load of through balls from Wide AP. 

I read your roles guide and found out how Wide AP works. I used it with WB behind him for support. Another AP in RMC. Got good through balls.

I guess if you use roles that compliment each other than you can get good load of Through balls.

[TheManager]

2 hours ago, DanEnglish said:

Haha. No - I just post more often than most others here in the past year or two. Actually @TheManager’s reply was more Pep worthy 👍 

Edit - PS. I’m not sure which roles play the most through balls. I’d have similar guesses as the above answers, but haven’t actually looked / explored / investigated this in a long time.

To be honest, I'm not really sure what OP mean in this thread. As far as I understand, he asking about which role that plays through balls which is according wiki the definition is

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A through-ball is a pass into open space between two defenders for an attacker to receive the ball behind the defenders. It is usually used to run in behind the defenders and also to create goal-scoring opportunities

based on what I know, Deep Lying Midfielder is the only one who can give such pass. But if Op mean player role that give key pass or a pass that directly leads to a shot on goal by a teammate, then it's can be any role depending on your tactic. Also if Op mean player role that will receive the pass, then it's can be any role that move forwards as well.

I also doesn't understand Op second paragraph mean.