Tactics 【CK】The Storm | 1KC tactic 🌩️⚔️

[ChingkiFM]

So I recently completed a 4KC - this post is just for sharing some thoughts about the main tactic that I use, and hopefully useful for someone who would like to give 1KC a go in the future.

I name it "The Storm"...

Key Features:

• Dynamic Wing Play: Utilizing wingers and wing-backs to deliver quick, accurate crosses, we keep the opposition on their toes and create constant threats from the flanks.

• High-Pressure Strategy: Just like a storm that builds up and unleashes its power, the team applies immediate pressure after losing possession. This disrupts the opponent's rhythm and forces mistakes, perfect for capitalizing on quick transitions.

• Fast-Paced Attacks: "The Storm" emphasizes swift, aggressive advances toward goal. The team moves quickly to exploit spaces created by our pressing game, ensuring that we maintain momentum and maximize scoring opportunities.

• Overwhelming Force: The imagery of a storm captures our attacking philosophy, where the aim is to dominate the game and capitalize on the chaos created by overloading attacks.

 

Don't forget the set piece tactics...they are also very (if not more) important.

 

Key attributes by position 

CF: Aerial (20), Shooting, Movement 
CAM: Passing, Movement, Tackling, Positioning
WF: Crossing, Movement, Dribbling, Passing
CM: Crossing, Passing, Tackling, Positioning
WB: Crossing, Tackling, Positioning, Passing
CB: Tackling, Positioning, Pace, Aerial

 

What if at the beginning of the save (or national team side) the team is not good enough yet?

Simple - Move the AM to CB. Then you have a 4-3-2-1 which is still very effective. Play slightly more defensive - use the control mentality. 

 

 

That's about it. I tested loads of different formations and combinations (including anything with PFs). Overall, this is my favourite variation - I feel it is the most balanced in terms of attacking threat and defense (i.e., winning the ball back for more attacking returns), and also able to effectively direct the majority of goals to the CF.

Time to take the game by storm...🌩️

 

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Note that you need to have an absolute overpowered team to get these numbers! It takes time and patience to develop the players into world-class.

 

Example 1: Scottish League

220 (domestic) + 36 (international) = 256 goals in a season

 

Example 2: La Liga

166 goals (domestic) + 57 goals (international) = 223 goals in a season

[Rav44]

Great tactic and write up. Thanks 

[deepheat83]

Great write up and undoubtedly quality tactic,

Some achievement hitting 4k goals!!

Just wondering how effective it is in 2024 version?

Have you tested it and if so how does it compare?

[ManagerFm]

I followed your career just out of curiosity. Now when you write like a ultimate player and giving advices here let me share few notes about your career and game in general. 

With all due respect:

-You used overpowered players in overpowered team in a weak Scottish league. It's not like you played any top league.

-Your advices about formation are not really.. simply they do not have some credibility if you ask me. I am actually surprised you had some struggles (in terms of result) in UCL finals with such an overpowered team against AI teams which are horrific built few seasons into the game. Simply, they do not have enough quality players. As game progresses AI teams decrease in quality. But, as in my save I upgrade and boost top AI teams manually in order to keep some challenge and difficulty I can tell you that you would get destroyed with that 1 central defender formation against any of top 30 teams in my save. I just had season in Italy with 120 scored goals, with an ok team against brutal Italian teams, manually boosted. I was using 433 with 3 CF. Before I was using 41221 and 4231. And guess what, every formation works. So I think you point people in wrong direction with your tactical advices. With your players and in your league every formation will work.

-I disagree with your advices on most important attributes for each position. Since I was editing and boosting I gained some understanding of CA and it's performance on pitch. I boosted so many players in AI teams on 200 CA (5 stars), yet they didn't play like that against me. Then I scout them and I see in negatives they have unconvincing penalty and set pieces takers in their report. Which is massive blow and influences CA and performance on the pitch significantly. Seems when you boost player game decreases that. Basically you can have CM or IF with 20 shooting and 20 technique and he still will not be able to score on pitch against average team because of that stuff. Many those hidden stuff affects actual CA on the pitch. For example, WB is not only crossing and attributes affected. You can have WB with 15+ crossing, creativity, movement, passing and he still not being able to deliver in attacking phase. Because of some hidden attributes and set pieces combination of that player. Set pieces and penalty stuff affects many player performances massively as it is taken into account during the game, not only in dead ball situations, despite their attributes. How good is and some player will be is calculated by much more than attributes you listed for each position. I repeat, you used overpowered players in overpowered team in a weak league, which is making your observations and conclusions questionable.

-Regarding your player development, I find it very unrealistic. You might not used editor, but maybe you used that hex editor people mentioning or whatever it's name to edit even hidden attributes. So far I developed pretty much players with high PA that I know that player with 9 creativity and 13 heading (among the rest) can't develop in that direction. To get that increase in heading and creativity is only possible if you mentored Andrade with Cristiano himself, what is not possible, even then Andrade would decline in some other attributes. Creativity is a tricky attribute, affected by 2 or 3 hidden subattributes. You can have player with 20 creativity yet he will not be described as mercurial talent and unpredictable player, neither he will behave like that on the pitch. When I wanted to raise creativity and flair in some youngster I would usually mentor him, but it would come at cost of some his other attribute stagnating or decreasing (even set pieces and penalty taking are affected by mentoring) as there is simply no 100% perfect mentor in the game. Yet, your players, and Andrade especially developed in that weird way. Don't get me wrong, but it simply doesn't go that way, I myself developed so many players that I'm in a position to notice such stuff. I mentored players, sometimes let them alone without mentor and it's impossible to push development in a direction you did with Andrade. I noted someone questioned your player development and you dismissed it, like you can they cant. I'll tell you one thing: Even if I disagree a lot with this community and it's members on a numerous topics and approaches regarding game and it's stuff, they know player development and possibilities up to a smallest details, those are ages of playing of this game, and you can't simply dismiss theirs opinions.

This is a solo game, and everyone can play it in a way they want, I only chose to comment when I saw your advice post. I'll repeat once more, you used overpowered players with an overpowered team in a very weak league. In my opinion, what is working and what's not, what is important in formation or in players can't be assessed through your career. I would much more like and appreciate if you invested this much time in communication and discussion with developers on SI forum how to make this game more challenging in AI improvements than making this career.

No harsh feelings, only my observations, cheers!

[MikeF]

You left out the bit about reloading and hex editing 

[ChingkiFM]

48 minutes ago, MikeF said:

You left out the bit about reloading and hex editing 

Lmao it’s you again. First you say my careers are pointless, and now you’re accusing me of editing out of nowhere😂 Just admit you’re salty and take the L already Mr. loser

 

[MegaBoi]

So I only commented on this 2-3 times. Now I think I might add something more.

@MikeF is one of the Most experienced players here. And also @ManagerFm. So you can't just call them Loser and neglect their opinions.

I agree with Managerfm. Your Players especially Andrade is just out of this World, and you can't just build a player like that. I have seen some of your Player who can play in Almost every position, And retraining any player a whole new role takes almost 1 and half season. And the stuff you did seems impossible to achieve.

Another point I would like to add is, Every player in this game have specific build. And training him other way then his Build is very difficult, and takes more CA sometimes. Some points of Managerfm on mental attributes like Creativity is right. How can you have any player with 20 creativity, Decision,Pace, Movement, Positioning,Tackling, Technique. That just seems impossible cause some attributes takes a lot of Ca as I experienced. And you will not have any room after that to achieve 20s in every attributes.

I am not saying straight up that you have cheated. But if you shared your insights on these things, how you did that. Then that will be better. Cause this type of development can rise questions. And you will have to answer those questions.

[ChingkiFM]

1 hour ago, ManagerFm said:

I followed your career just out of curiosity. Now when you write like a ultimate player and giving advices here let me share few notes about your career and game in general. 

With all due respect:

-You used overpowered players in overpowered team in a weak Scottish league. It's not like you played any top league.

-Your advices about formation are not really.. simply they do not have some credibility if you ask me. I am actually surprised you had some struggles (in terms of result) in UCL finals with such an overpowered team against AI teams which are horrific built few seasons into the game. Simply, they do not have enough quality players. As game progresses AI teams decrease in quality. But, as in my save I upgrade and boost top AI teams manually in order to keep some challenge and difficulty I can tell you that you would get destroyed with that 1 central defender formation against any of top 30 teams in my save. I just had season in Italy with 120 scored goals, with an ok team against brutal Italian teams, manually boosted. I was using 433 with 3 CF. Before I was using 41221 and 4231. And guess what, every formation works. So I think you point people in wrong direction with your tactical advices. With your players and in your league every formation will work.

-I disagree with your advices on most important attributes for each position. Since I was editing and boosting I gained some understanding of CA and it's performance on pitch. I boosted so many players in AI teams on 200 CA (5 stars), yet they didn't play like that against me. Then I scout them and I see in negatives they have unconvincing penalty and set pieces takers in their report. Which is massive blow and influences CA and performance on the pitch significantly. Seems when you boost player game decreases that. Basically you can have CM or IF with 20 shooting and 20 technique and he still will not be able to score on pitch against average team because of that stuff. Many those hidden stuff affects actual CA on the pitch. For example, WB is not only crossing and attributes affected. You can have WB with 15+ crossing, creativity, movement, passing and he still not being able to deliver in attacking phase. Because of some hidden attributes and set pieces combination of that player. Set pieces and penalty stuff affects many player performances massively as it is taken into account during the game, not only in dead ball situations, despite their attributes. How good is and some player will be is calculated by much more than attributes you listed for each position. I repeat, you used overpowered players in overpowered team in a weak league, which is making your observations and conclusions questionable.

-Regarding your player development, I find it very unrealistic. You might not used editor, but maybe you used that hex editor people mentioning or whatever it's name to edit even hidden attributes. So far I developed pretty much players with high PA that I know that player with 9 creativity and 13 heading (among the rest) can't develop in that direction. To get that increase in heading and creativity is only possible if you mentored Andrade with Cristiano himself, what is not possible, even then Andrade would decline in some other attributes. Creativity is a tricky attribute, affected by 2 or 3 hidden subattributes. You can have player with 20 creativity yet he will not be described as mercurial talent and unpredictable player, neither he will behave like that on the pitch. When I wanted to raise creativity and flair in some youngster I would usually mentor him, but it would come at cost of some his other attribute stagnating or decreasing (even set pieces and penalty taking are affected by mentoring) as there is simply no 100% perfect mentor in the game. Yet, your players, and Andrade especially developed in that weird way. Don't get me wrong, but it simply doesn't go that way, I myself developed so many players that I'm in a position to notice such stuff. I mentored players, sometimes let them alone without mentor and it's impossible to push development in a direction you did with Andrade. I noted someone questioned your player development and you dismissed it, like you can they cant. I'll tell you one thing: Even if I disagree a lot with this community and it's members on a numerous topics and approaches regarding game and it's stuff, they know player development and possibilities up to a smallest details, those are ages of playing of this game, and you can't simply dismiss theirs opinions.

This is a solo game, and everyone can play it in a way they want, I only chose to comment when I saw your advice post. I'll repeat once more, you used overpowered players with an overpowered team in a very weak league. In my opinion, what is working and what's not, what is important in formation or in players can't be assessed through your career. I would much more like and appreciate if you invested this much time in communication and discussion with developers on SI forum how to make this game more challenging in AI improvements than making this career.

No harsh feelings, only my observations, cheers!

If I ignored this you’d prolly say I dismissed you😂 not gonna type an essay either. Here’s the simple response:

- if you disagree/dislike the tactic it literally takes 2 seconds to return to last page 

- i write like a top player because I AM a top player (on iOS). And I am proud of it

- 1KC is literally about using a strong team in a weak league…wdym

- Every formation works? Try 5-5-1 Contain  

- Mentoring is just a small part in player development…claiming penalty and free kick abilities are impacted by mentoring (no, it won’t) just shows your knowledge level.

- Another hex editing accusation - i honestly have no idea how I am supposed to prove something I didn’t do.  I don’t think you can get a rank on iOS if the game is edited in anyway I suppose

 

[ChingkiFM]

38 minutes ago, MegaBoi said:

So I only commented on this 2-3 times. Now I think I might add something more.

@MikeF is one of the Most experienced players here. And also @ManagerFm. So you can't just call them Loser and neglect their opinions.

I agree with Managerfm. Your Players especially Andrade is just out of this World, and you can't just build a player like that. I have seen some of your Player who can play in Almost every position, And retraining any player a whole new role takes almost 1 and half season. And the stuff you did seems impossible to achieve.

Another point I would like to add is, Every player in this game have specific build. And training him other way then his Build is very difficult, and takes more CA sometimes. Some points of Managerfm on mental attributes like Creativity is right. How can you have any player with 20 creativity, Decision,Pace, Movement, Positioning,Tackling, Technique. That just seems impossible cause some attributes takes a lot of Ca as I experienced. And you will not have any room after that to achieve 20s in every attributes.

I am not saying straight up that you have cheated. But if you shared your insights on these things, how you did that. Then that will be better. Cause this type of development can rise questions. And you will have to answer those questions.

- Did I neglect them? No I enjoy destroying haters😂 

- I literally have a guide on player development here on Vibe. So I did already explained everything

- Andrade is CR7 regen with 198 PA…and you are telling me 20s in few areas is not possible. Okay

- Your claim about player build is NOT correct. It has little influence but definitely can be changed with training

[DanEnglish]

There’s a whole bunch of sub-topics here that I won’t comment on.

The one sub-topic that I will comment on is about the tactical shape…

• Defense - others here have also had success with ultra-attacking 2 or 3 at the back formations - like a single DC with 2x WBs / IWBs. Therefore that’s workable in game.
• Midfield - the flat 3 MCs is a known successful combo for ‘feeding the flanks’ - as it pushes the wider MCs even wider, so they’re closer to the flanks. So that’s workable in-game.
• Attack - if you’re going for a +1k, then having a single striker, with an AM and 2 wide wingers is entirely sensible, as all the goals will be funneled through the ST (as long as the AM doesn’t take too many long shots). So that’s a workable setup.

Overall - that tactic is obviously only suitable for an OP squad. But yes that’s workable and similar to other ultra-attacking 2 or 3 at the back tactics I’ve seen from other experienced Vibe players. 

A difference between this and a 433 with 3 CFs is that (even if both work effectively) this is aimed at a +1k where most of the goals are funneled through the main striker.

For this specific sub-topic on tactical shape / formation, it makes sense to me 👍 

PS. I’m not a moderator, but let’s keep this thread ‘nice’. It’s ok to disagree, challenge or question. But let’s keep it clean, let’s not make personal, nor insult each other. Yeah? 🙂 

[Scratch]

Well... This post is a lightning rod isn't it!

Anyway, nice job!

To the doubters - 4K is totally possible. I got 3K without any ITN goals and without a CR7 regen (who will obviously turn out better). I now have a better tactic than I had and I'm thinking I might have a go at 4K (without ITN). 

And yes, playing an overpowered team in a weak league is the name of the game for this sort of save. You're basically bending the game for all it's worth. That's the actual point - to see how far it can be bent. SI Games know people do these sort of saves and don't care that it's not realistic, because 99% of players will never play like this. 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[MegaBoi]

13 minutes ago, ChingkiFM said:

- Did I neglect them? No I enjoy destroying haters😂 

- I literally have a guide on player development here on Vibe. So I did already explained everything

- Andrade is CR7 regen with 198 PA…and you are telling me 20s in few areas is not possible. Okay

- Your claim about player build is NOT correct. It has little influence but definitely can be changed with training

Mmm. Read your training guide and yeah I will have to agree with you.

Although I can't develop a single player efficiently, So dumb I am🤥🤥

[MikeF]

I wasn’t saying 4K isn’t doable or that the tactic didn’t work. I was referring to you posting a player with 20 as every single attribute and claiming you trained them that way. It’s just not possible. And the fact you continue to insist that it is shows you’re hiding something. 
Anyway, Mike out. 

[leedsunited87]

8 hours ago, MikeF said:

I wasn’t saying 4K isn’t doable or that the tactic didn’t work. I was referring to you posting a player with 20 as every single attribute and claiming you trained them that way. It’s just not possible. And the fact you continue to insist that it is shows you’re hiding something. 
Anyway, Mike out. 

I have to agree here, if it wasn't for me seeing a player that can play literally every position, its literally impossible, no player can player every single position, they would refuse, yes maybe when past a certain age, they might say play me left back or centre back, but not every single position 

[ChingkiFM]

Well well well. All I did was to share some information that could be useful for some other members of the Vibe community, all with good intentions.  Didn’t expect the hate.

There’s a meme in crypto community that perfectly encapsulates what’s happening here:

 

And that’s the reality of life, similarities are everywhere! It’s just a game so - enjoy gaming, relax and chill!

Edited August 23, 2025 by ChingkiFM

[leedsunited87]

10 minutes ago, ChingkiFM said:

Well well well. All I did was to share some information that could be useful for some other members of the Vibe community, all with good intentions.  Didn’t expect the hate.

There’s a meme in crypto community that perfectly encapsulates what’s happening here:

 

And that’s the reality of life, similarities are everywhere! It’s just a game so - enjoy gaming, relax and chill!

No hate on here buddy. Just when your posting a career, do it to your best ability. No need to use HEX mate as I said on your other career. You can play the game however you like buddy. But when the game is so easy anyway. You don't need to overplay players to 20 standards on each attribute. You dont need a player whos are ST, playing every position. Doesn't make you any less of a player just playing it normal and people will follow your career, advise etc. Myself and a bunch of people on here are well experienced enough to help and guide you 

[ChingkiFM]

30 minutes ago, leedsunited87 said:

No hate on here buddy. Just when your posting a career, do it to your best ability. No need to use HEX mate as I said on your other career. You can play the game however you like buddy. But when the game is so easy anyway. You don't need to overplay players to 20 standards on each attribute. You dont need a player whos are ST, playing every position. Doesn't make you any less of a player just playing it normal and people will follow your career, advise etc. Myself and a bunch of people on here are well experienced enough to help and guide you 

Omg I cannot🤣

“I am well experienced to guide you” - From an absolute nobody to someone who is ranked first globally btw. It’s like me telling Elon Musk I can teach him how to make money🤣

But you know what, you are right. I’m out🤣

Spoiler

[leedsunited87]

4 minutes ago, ChingkiFM said:

Omg I cannot🤣

“I am well experienced to guide you” - From an absolute nobody to someone who is ranked first globally btw. It’s like me telling Elon Musk I can teach him how to make money🤣

But you know what, you are right. I’m out🤣

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Yeah globally through *HEX you forgot to put that on there. I tried 😕

[hueguero]

5 hours ago, leedsunited87 said:

Sem ódio aqui, amigo. Só que quando você estiver postando uma carreira, faça o seu melhor. Não precisa usar HEX, cara, como eu disse na sua outra carreira. Você pode jogar como quiser, amigo. Mas quando o jogo é tão fácil, de qualquer forma. Você não precisa jogar com jogadores acima do padrão 20 em cada atributo. Você não precisa de um jogador que seja ST, jogando em todas as posições. Isso não te torna menos jogador, apenas jogar normalmente e as pessoas seguirão sua carreira, darão conselhos, etc. Eu e várias pessoas aqui temos experiência suficiente para ajudar e orientar você. 

Your post may even be somewhat correct, but when you say you "have experience to advise" and put yourself above the rest, you ruin everything.
The guy never asked anyone for guidance, he simply posted his tactic here. And it's a tactic very similar to other 1KC tactics seen here.
It's bizarre for someone to want to advise someone who never asked for guidance.

[Scratch]

I'm still not quite sure where all the doubt is coming from.

I got 3K and didn't get this reaction. Chingki is using a similar tactic to mine (not the same, so he hasn't copied it), he's using a better player (literally the 2nd best player in the game), he's using the ITN goals (which I didn't bother with) - taking all that into account, 4K seems about right. 

Yes, some of his players look out of this world, but he is using the best regens available so of course they look good. I don't worry with working out who's regen players are, I just set up a wonderkid factory where I feed a whole heap in and keep the strongest - they aren't quite as good as Chingki, but they aren't that far off.

As for having a lot of positions, leaving aside there are some players who can play in a whole heap (Vidal!), with enough time and dedication you can retrain players into any position. I wouldn't bother spending that much time, but I do sometimes retrain people with no aptitude in the position I think they will be ideal in (and I once retrained 3 CDs into STs for a TT save!). It is possible. 

Now, does that prove Chingki (or I) didn't cheat? No - there is no way to know for sure if anyone has cheated or not. But equally, you can't really say this isn't possible - so it's generally best to give people the benefit of the doubt.

The one thing I'm not so sure is the "ranked first globally" part! What does that even mean? Ranked first where? 🤣

[leedsunited87]

6 minutes ago, Scratch said:

I'm still not quite sure where all the doubt is coming from.

I got 3K and didn't get this reaction. Chingki is using a similar tactic to mine (not the same, so he hasn't copied it), he's using a better player (literally the 2nd best player in the game), he's using the ITN goals (which I didn't bother with) - taking all that into account, 4K seems about right. 

Yes, some of his players look out of this world, but he is using the best regens available so of course they look good. I don't worry with working out who's regen players are, I just set up a wonderkid factory where I feed a whole heap in and keep the strongest - they aren't quite as good as Chingki, but they aren't that far off.

As for having a lot of positions, leaving aside there are some players who can play in a whole heap (Vidal!), with enough time and dedication you can retrain players into any position. I wouldn't bother spending that much time, but I do sometimes retrain people with no aptitude in the position I think they will be ideal in (and I once retrained 3 CDs into STs for a TT save!). It is possible. 

Now, does that prove Chingki (or I) didn't cheat? No - there is no way to know for sure if anyone has cheated or not. But equally, you can't really say this isn't possible - so it's generally best to give people the benefit of the doubt.

The one thing I'm not so sure is the "ranked first globally" part! What does that even mean? Ranked first where? 🤣

I would agree with you buddy. But when you have 20 for every single attribute, it's impossible, nobody could get that, no me, not you and certainly not the best without some sort of cheating. I have been playing games since the old CM series (loved that game) and FM mobile since it came out (I don't bother with full fat FM anymore) I train them up, do absolutely everything, might have the odd 18/19 but never have I had 20s on each. Just doesn't happen, wouldn't happen, and then say a player at 33/34, for his pace still to be extremely high. Again wouldn't happen, players 30 onwards start to downgrade very quickly, only know, spent years and sadly hours on this game. I always say to SI, look at Alan Shearer, he was class, slow but class, keep asking to maybe once in a while try and preserve that player, but nothing happens lol 

[leedsunited87]

3 minutes ago, leedsunited87 said:

I would agree with you buddy. But when you have 20 for every single attribute, it's impossible, nobody could get that, no me, not you and certainly not the best without some sort of cheating. I have been playing games since the old CM series (loved that game) and FM mobile since it came out (I don't bother with full fat FM anymore) I train them up, do absolutely everything, might have the odd 18/19 but never have I had 20s on each. Just doesn't happen, wouldn't happen, and then say a player at 33/34, for his pace still to be extremely high. Again wouldn't happen, players 30 onwards start to downgrade very quickly, only know, spent years and sadly hours on this game. I always say to SI, look at Alan Shearer, he was class, slow but class, keep asking to maybe once in a while try and preserve that player, but nothing happens lol 

As far as I'm aware, you could have all players say the CA (is it called that, or PA) whatever its called lol say it 200 over 200 (so they have reached potential) there stats won't improve much more. Because they have reached full potential, I remember the great one (he made the game) made the one and only CM 03/04, Marc saying once you hit a certain peak, your player won't improve much more

[leedsunited87]

1 minute ago, leedsunited87 said:

As far as I'm aware, you could have all players say the CA (is it called that, or PA) whatever its called lol say it 200 over 200 (so they have reached potential) there stats won't improve much more. Because they have reached full potential, I remember the great one (he made the game) made the one and only CM 03/04, Marc saying once you hit a certain peak, your player won't improve much more

Then when you hit 30, especially going into 30s, your player then goes down quite rapidly. I remember on this years version. I was in the American League with Messi (he's old lol) class but old, within 6 months of me starting the game, his pace went to around 7/8, dribbling went down, etc etc was kinda gutted, I had given him a 8 year contract lol think by 1st year he was dogshit lol 😆  🤣 👍 but I still kept him, great for training the youngsters 

[leedsunited87]

I'm so tempted to see if I'm calculations are correct. What I'll do, I'll make a thread. Never cheated in my life, but just want to see if what I stated above actually does work. So I'm going to take over a team, say in the prem. Sign everyone over 30, gives them full 20 stats, over the course of the season, let's see how much they drop in term of attributes. Then that will make my mind up lol I'll Sign the best coaches, do training myself. Let's just see 👀 😏 🤔 🙄 

[MegaBoi]

2 hours ago, Scratch said:

I'm still not quite sure where all the doubt is coming from.

I got 3K and didn't get this reaction. Chingki is using a similar tactic to mine (not the same, so he hasn't copied it), he's using a better player (literally the 2nd best player in the game), he's using the ITN goals (which I didn't bother with) - taking all that into account, 4K seems about right. 

Yes, some of his players look out of this world, but he is using the best regens available so of course they look good. I don't worry with working out who's regen players are, I just set up a wonderkid factory where I feed a whole heap in and keep the strongest - they aren't quite as good as Chingki, but they aren't that far off.

As for having a lot of positions, leaving aside there are some players who can play in a whole heap (Vidal!), with enough time and dedication you can retrain players into any position. I wouldn't bother spending that much time, but I do sometimes retrain people with no aptitude in the position I think they will be ideal in (and I once retrained 3 CDs into STs for a TT save!). It is possible. 

Now, does that prove Chingki (or I) didn't cheat? No - there is no way to know for sure if anyone has cheated or not. But equally, you can't really say this isn't possible - so it's generally best to give people the benefit of the doubt.

The one thing I'm not so sure is the "ranked first globally" part! What does that even mean? Ranked first where? 🤣

Yeah man, Where are these global rankings? I can not find them.

[Scratch]

2 hours ago, leedsunited87 said:

As far as I'm aware, you could have all players say the CA (is it called that, or PA) whatever its called lol say it 200 over 200 (so they have reached potential) there stats won't improve much more. Because they have reached full potential, I remember the great one (he made the game) made the one and only CM 03/04, Marc saying once you hit a certain peak, your player won't improve much more

Interestingly, there is a ... bug? feature? in this years game (maybe last year's too? I can't remember). where your CA can be higher than your PA. Never seen that in previous versions, not sure what the criteria is for it to actually happen, but it happens... Very strange.

The other thing I've noticed this year is that older players (especially top players) seem to keep their CA a lot better than they used to. Still goes decline, but they are more like milk left out in the English sun vs milk left out in the Australian sun in the older versions!  

[leedsunited87]

2 minutes ago, Scratch said:

Interestingly, there is a ... bug? feature? in this years game (maybe last year's too? I can't remember). where your CA can be higher than your PA. Never seen that in previous versions, not sure what the criteria is for it to actually happen, but it happens... Very strange.

The other thing I've noticed this year is that older players (especially top players) seem to keep their CA a lot better than they used to. Still goes decline, but they are more like milk left out in the English sun vs milk left out in the Australian sun in the older versions!  

I think it's all to do with how you train your player and how your player is actually playing maybe? Haha yeah! I remember having Messi (can't remember his age) old as me I think lol within 12 weeks. His stats went so pants 😕 his shooting went down to I think 14, I mean WTF lol he's Messi. 14 for shooting?! I think personally, I always says Shearer. In RL. He was a beast at 36/37, strength and ovs shooting. Pace was always pretty crappie. Now in FM. Why can't you have that sort of player lol I'm doing a test atm, just to see what actually happens. Already I signed 2 players. And the game won't allow me to have full 20. That's telling me everything already. You have a limit. I have no idea about how HEX works, I'm a yorkshireman lol I have seen the numbers in HEX and it's way past my level of knowledge lmao 😅 🤣 😆 😂 🙃 I will see how this pans out. But I think my theory is spot on, only HEX users will know how to change the attributes, sadly I will stick to throwing bags in planes lol 

[deepheat83]

Causing quite the "storm" this post ain't it 😉

[deepheat83]

I agree with what scratch is saying. I got 3k before and no hate at all if I remember right.

No doubt you've put in a lot of work and effort into this save.

Taking time to research regens etc.

People give the Scottish league a lot of hate but in reality after 10-15 years it is not much different to any other with the development of the league standard (assuming you keep winning everything).

This results in the majority of the league playing some sort of European football.

Resulting again in better players coming through the youth teams and better players joining the club's.

 

But I ask again as you never responded to my previous comment.

Why not do it in the latest version?

Would be far more impressive as you dont have the corner glitch.

Although saying that if you had, how much hate would you be receiving????

 

Also, you say you're ranked number 1 in the world. 

What are you referring to here?

Asking for a mate 

 

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[ManagerFm]

I don't think he got hate on this. He lost me when he started calling people "loosers" out of nothing. At first he said those careers are like his personal diary of those journeys, only to see him rubbing peoples noses with those careers and being very arrogant.

I chose to withdraw myself from discussion, even not to comment and not to correct his disrespectful reply on my post.

I am only amazed how he managed to convince experienced players that Messi regen can reach 20 heading alongside every other single 20s, when it's impossible to do that development. Who mentored Messi regen in Andorra and Ronaldo regen in Celtic? That picture of Messi regen attributes and positional versatility should been enough for everyone. We all know what is possible and where are certain limits. I do not know how he labeled people as haters, those that doubted it.

I didn't see anyone come with some hate on him, including myself, no one really said anything about his regens reloading system, you can play as you want, even if that alone is too much for me.

Then people come and defend 4k challenge. It's not my focus, I don't speak of it, everyone can play what they want. I spoke only of tactical and players advices, only said those advices on players and formations are not really credible, as when you play realistic, difficult and slow saves you getting more knowledge what really matters in formations and players, and what really matters could do even better performance even in this type of saves. I do not know how is that hate.

Could write an essay on that -player guide development- and on his reply to me, to dismantle it but no point. If I would I would ask, among the many points, how in a star system rating someone can know that certain player has exact 198 PA, where that number is? In hex editor or some other tool maybe? That's mere drop in a sea, I found so many stuff in his posts. We all know that even Messi regen on max PA will stop developing in some point, game will do that, there is absolutely no way he can reach 20s in every single attribute, thus no need for us to give so much attention to science fiction. I've got an essay as I said but will not.

Even this I wrote because I saw people turning this as he got some hate, and it's not what happened here.

MegaBoi you were right in your post and no need to apologise man, that guide is unrealistic and not correct, again I am amazed how so many experienced players accepted it.

Only I saw is people asking logical questions and being called loosers. There is so many experienced players here that calling yourself No1 player (which uses reloading by his words, and that reloading is a cover story for hex editing, by my conclusion) is not really way to go. Calling people haters is also unbelievable and without any justification. When you publish something of course people will react, I didn't see any being disrespectful. Arrogancy, insults and rest came from author when being doubted for presenting science fiction.

Throws insults and arrogancy on people and then comes and says chill and rest. Unbelievable.