Tactics Battering Ram mk3

[deepheat83]

I've updated my old classic formation but changed the inverted wing backs to wide central defenders.

The results have been outstanding so far.

My current save:

https://fmmvibe.com/forums/topic/50552-the-mighty-dons-🐑/#comment-503159

Going from strength to strength every season so far with the addition of a couple of players here and there.

No sure if this is plug and play as I haven't had the chance to test it with any other team.

Would love to hear some feed back if anyone wants to try it out.

Looks like it could be fantastic with a treat here or there.

Always keen to hear what others think but for the moment its doing magic for my Aberdeen team.

Just went undefeated in my 2nd season after narrowly missing out on winning the league on the last day of the season in my 1st year 

 

Edited November 13 by deepheat83

[Rav44]

This looks great with amazing results. I will give it a go. Did you make any in game changes if you were loosing?

[deepheat83]

10 minutes ago, Rav44 said:

This looks great with amazing results. I will give it a go. Did you make any in game changes if you were loosing?

Not particularly. 

Kind of just trusted the process.

Occasionally changed player but never set up.

 

Alternatively short and central is effective, short and mixed also works well.

Just decided that mixed and mixed worked better for my players

[kikimaloy]

 

Bro, show the players and instructions please.

[deepheat83]

31 minutes ago, kikimaloy said:

 

Bro, show the players and instructions please.

What do you mean?

I have shown you instructions.

Dont be so lazy, I've shared a link to my save. 

[Schwantz34]

This looks fun!

Loved the original version back in the day too. I'll apply it to my struggling Leeds save later and see how it goes.

[DutchTony]

3 hours ago, deepheat83 said:

I've updated my old classic formation but changed the inverted wing backs to wide central defenders.

The results have been outstanding so far.

My current save:

Going from strength to strength every season so far with the addition of a couple of players here and there.

No sure if this is plug and play as I haven't had the chance to test it with any other team.

Would love to hear some feed back if anyone wants to try it out.

Looks like it could be fantastic with a treat here or there.

Always keen to hear what others think but for the moment its doing magic for my Aberdeen team.

Just went undefeated in my 2nd season after narrowly missing out on winning the league on the last day of the season in my 1st year 

 

The link doesn't work for me mate. No issues as I found the thread anyway. Just thought I'd let you know.

I used to love this formation and used it back in 2015 😁

Looking forward to giving this a try.

[deepheat83]

31 minutes ago, Schwantz34 said:

This looks fun!

Loved the original version back in the day too. I'll apply it to my struggling Leeds save later and see how it goes.

Let me know if it somehow manages to save you 🤞

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21 minutes ago, DutchTony said:

The link doesn't work for me mate. No issues as I found the thread anyway. Just thought I'd let you know.

I used to love this formation and used it back in 2015 😁

Looking forward to giving this a try.

I'll repost. Dunno why its not working.

Thanks for letting me know 

[DutchTony]

6 hours ago, deepheat83 said:

I've updated my old classic formation but changed the inverted wing backs to wide central defenders.

The results have been outstanding so far.

My current save:

https://fmmvibe.com/forums/topic/50552-the-mighty-dons-🐑/#comment-503159

Going from strength to strength every season so far with the addition of a couple of players here and there.

No sure if this is plug and play as I haven't had the chance to test it with any other team.

Would love to hear some feed back if anyone wants to try it out.

Looks like it could be fantastic with a treat here or there.

Always keen to hear what others think but for the moment its doing magic for my Aberdeen team.

Just went undefeated in my 2nd season after narrowly missing out on winning the league on the last day of the season in my 1st year 

 

A quick test. Played 12 league games and some cup games.

I'm conceding around 1 goal per game which is fine considering I score around 3 per game. How did you find the libero in your experience? I occasionally changed it to a BPD at around 65-70 minutes when I had to sub off Van Dijk due to tiredness.

I like how the goals and assists are spread out amongst the team.

I really like the tactic. It's the most fun I've had on this year's game after trying many other tactics, and there's some decent tweaks that can be made mid game that seem to actually effect how the team play.

I'm definitely going to start a new career now using this tactic. I wont be getting any 'park the bus' awards but it will be fun 😁

Good job mate.

[Schwantz34]

3 hours ago, deepheat83 said:

Let me know if it somehow manages to save you 🤞

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I'll repost. Dunno why its not working.

Thanks for letting me know 

This was the situation;

 

Started well;

 

That puts me two points behind them and they've now played a game more.

Edited November 13 by Schwantz34

[deepheat83]

18 minutes ago, Schwantz34 said:

This was the situation;

 

Started well;

 

That puts me two points behind them and they've now played a game more.

You got this mate.

I feel a come back for thr ages coming.

Maybe lib isn't best for that. 

Maybe try no nonsense or cd instead.

Maybe even sweeper if you have a pacy centre back 

[deepheat83]

45 minutes ago, Schwantz34 said:

 

 

Edited November 13 by deepheat83

[deepheat83]

1 hour ago, DutchTony said:

A quick test. Played 12 league games and some cup games.

I'm conceding around 1 goal per game which is fine considering I score around 3 per game. How did you find the libero in your experience? I occasionally changed it to a BPD at around 65-70 minutes when I had to sub off Van Dijk due to tiredness.

I like how the goals and assists are spread out amongst the team.

I really like the tactic. It's the most fun I've had on this year's game after trying many other tactics, and there's some decent tweaks that can be made mid game that seem to actually effect how the team play.

I'm definitely going to start a new career now using this tactic. I wont be getting any 'park the bus' awards but it will be fun 😁

Good job mate.

Good stuff. 

 

Glad you're enjoying it.

 

Am never really that bothered about contending, as long as I am winning.

 

Find that he does wander and sometime get caught out when the other two split it can leave a gap.

 

I find the pros outweighs the cons though as he covers the 2 mids who aggressively push forward into the box.

 

Funnily enough it was Liverpool I tried it with 1st.

 

Had a crossing formation that wasn't working and 3 good striker with only 1 spot so tried this.

 

Danns is a player in this eh.

 

Had him at Aberdeen last season. Tore up the league 

[Schwantz34]

42 minutes ago, deepheat83 said:

You got this mate.

I feel a come back for thr ages coming.

Maybe lib isn't best for that. 

Maybe try no nonsense or cd instead.

Maybe even sweeper if you have a pacy centre back 

Next two games I lost away at Palace 3-4 then got whacked 4-1 away at Man Utd.

This isn't going to be easy 🤣

Part of the problem may be Perri in goal. He has really good keeper stats but he doesn't seem to save anything.

[DutchTony]

Made the following 2 changes after my screenshot above.

Team Mentality: Counter

Width: Balanced

The next 5 premier league games (2 home and 3 away) I scored 14 goals and only conceded 1 (and that was from a corner)

I'm going to test this further against all away teams, and home games against decent opposition.

Genuinely enjoying this 👏 

[Schwantz34]

Changed Ampadu to a sweeper instead of a libero and put Darlow in goal. Won the next game at home 5-2 against Wolves.

This tactic is bonkers with Leeds and you never know if you'll get battered or win well but I love it!

[Schwantz34]

SKIN OF OUR TEETH!

Changed to BPD-S-BPD at the back for the last 4 games.

 

[rseven]

I tried same combination of 3 backs. WCB + L + WCB. The question is why use WCB? WCB will go wide, but what is the purpose for WCB? 

How about change WCB to BPD? 

[DutchTony]

5 minutes ago, rseven said:

I tried same combination of 3 backs. WCB + L + WCB. The question is why use WCB? WCB will go wide, but what is the purpose for WCB? 

How about change WCB to BPD? 

Did you try BPD + L + BPD?

If so, how did that combination perform for you?

[deepheat83]

Yaaaaas!

Big push for top half next season!!

Sounds like you half sorted out your defensive issues!

Yeah I find keepers ain't great in this.

Ive got the same issue with mine.

Got a neuer regen joining us on a free next season so could be good, or could be terrible!!

 

Happy you survived and excited to see your progress

[deepheat83]

3 minutes ago, DutchTony said:

Did you try BPD + L + BPD?

If so, how did that combination perform for you?

No never tried. Just fancied wide, kind of cause its new, kind of because pretty much every other team you play use IFs.

Figured if could close them down ASAP then they couldn't do much damage.

Good in theory but as they say the proof is in the pudding. 

Sounds like you've got it sussed with that combo, great stuff.

 

Also tried counter when I needed a result against Atalanta away, ended up taking them to extra time but ultimately lost 2-1.

 

Probably works better when you're a stronger team.

But thats the direction we're going in.

Maybe I'll try it at against some bottom of the league teams and see how it goes

[Schwantz34]

9 minutes ago, deepheat83 said:

Yaaaaas!

Big push for top half next season!!

Sounds like you half sorted out your defensive issues!

Yeah I find keepers ain't great in this.

Ive got the same issue with mine.

Got a neuer regen joining us on a free next season so could be good, or could be terrible!!

 

Happy you survived and excited to see your progress

The defensive ratings improved a little but that's definitely the problem area. The attackers have all been getting 8/9/10 ratings and I have Gelhardt (recalled him from loan when I applied the tactic as he's a natural SS on the game) who isn't an elite player but still getting those high ratings.

 

My defenders and keeper frequently got 4/5/6 ratings. The BPD-S-BPD seemed to help but the players aren't good enough either. Not sure what's more to blame though so will start the new season with the setup still and buy better defenders. If it's still the main issue then I'll have to tinker with the three defenders roles again.

Edited November 14 by Schwantz34

[deepheat83]

1 minute ago, Schwantz34 said:

The defensive ratings improved a little but that's definitely the problem area. The attackers have all been getting 8/9/10 ratings and I have Gelhardt (recalled him from loan when I applied the tactic as he;s a natural SS in the in the SS on the game) who isn't an elite player but still getting those high ratings.

 

My defenders and keeper frequently got 4/5/6 ratings. The BPD-S-BPD seemed to help but the players aren't good enough either. Not sure what's more to blame though so will start the new season with the setup still and buy better defenders. If it's still the main issue then I'll have to tinker with the three defenders roles again.

Sounds like you need to sure up that defence!!

Once you do that you'll fly up the table 

[DutchTony]

30 minutes ago, Schwantz34 said:

SKIN OF OUR TEETH!

Changed to BPD-S-BPD at the back for the last 4 games.

 

Well done!!!

You won your last 4 home games and lost your last 5 away games. Crazy how playing away always makes a big difference. 

[Schwantz34]

9 minutes ago, DutchTony said:

Well done!!!

You won your last 4 home games and lost your last 5 away games. Crazy how playing away always makes a big difference. 

I hadn't even noticed that 🤣

[Kiliminjaro]

I absolutely love this tactic I'm using it for my rtg team we the highest scoring team but we have the 4th worst defense in the league any tips to improve the defense? 

[deepheat83]

1 hour ago, Kiliminjaro said:

I absolutely love this tactic I'm using it for my rtg team we the highest scoring team but we have the 4th worst defense in the league any tips to improve the defense? 

Firstly, that is great to hear, glad you are enjoying it.

I also enjoy it as it is pretty balanced but very effective going forward.

 

Secondly, I've not tried but a few about have suggested changing the back three roles.

A couple of others have tried 2 ball playing defenders and a sweeper which seems to work pretty well I believe.

I personally haven't tried this or any other set up yet but if I was having the same defensive issues I would.

[DutchTony]

2 hours ago, Kiliminjaro said:

I absolutely love this tactic I'm using it for my rtg team we the highest scoring team but we have the 4th worst defense in the league any tips to improve the defense? 

I changed it to counter and balanced width and conceded 1 goal (from a corner) in 5 games. I've stopped the tactic test now as I'm starting a new career just to use this tactic.

Try it and let us know how it goes for you.

[deepheat83]

15 minutes ago, DutchTony said:

I changed it to counter and balanced width and conceded 1 goal (from a corner) in 5 games. I've stopped the tactic test now as I'm starting a new career just to use this tactic.

Try it and let us know how it goes for you.

Look forward to seeing the results.

Which team have you gone for?

[DutchTony]

40 minutes ago, deepheat83 said:

Look forward to seeing the results.

Which team have you gone for?

It's my first career this year so it had to be Liverpool 😂

Next will definitely be Wimbledon which will be significantly more difficult...