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Klopp wouldn’t even be in my top three. I’m bias, I know, but the transformation of my boys under Poch has been a much better achievement.

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3 minutes ago, 1759 said:

Klopp hasn’t done anything is just nonsense as winning the German league twice against Bayern is a decent achievement

He's been to three CL finals ffs, yes he's not won them but he's got there and he'll hopefully be holding the trophy two weeks today. Winning titles is important but it's not the be all and end all, we've gone from being dicked 6-1 to Stoke City to back to back CL finals and a Europa League final. I wouldn't swap Klopp for anyone, he's the perfect manager for us and he'll win eventually. 

6 minutes ago, 1759 said:

Pep would struggle at lesser sides

I agree, he's defo the most specialist

7 minutes ago, 1759 said:

Anyway I think prime Fergie would be able to deal with anything but age must’ve got to him a bit towards the end and he made the right decision to get out when he did.

It would have been fascinating

5 minutes ago, Rob said:

Klopp wouldn’t even be in my top three. I’m bias, I know, but the transformation of my boys under Poch has been a much better achievement.

Read the above 😛

I'm a big fan of Poch though. 

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18 minutes ago, 1759 said:

German league twice against Bayern is a decent achievement

Against the worst Bayern Munich team of the past 20 odd years 😛 

Not knocking Klopp at all, I actually like him but until he has sustained success then this isn’t even up for debate tbh 

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You Scousers clutch at everything don’t you! 

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1 minute ago, Nucleus said:

Against the worst Bayern Munich team of the past 20 odd years 😛 

Not knocking Klopp at all, I actually like him but until he has sustained success then this isn’t even up for debate tbh 

The question never was who is the best but if the three could compete with this type of season which two have shown they can. Fergie never reached these heights yet he never had to. 

I'll be the first to admit the challenge for Klopp now is repeating this next year, under Rafa and Rodgers we got close then fell away so next season is our test. Even winning the CL and dropping off in the league would be a disappointment. We've gone from a middling side to a dominant force in Europe, our improvement can't be understated as it's massive. 

Regardless of the CL final though we need to compete on all fronts next hear, we need to go for the title and the domestic cups. 

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13 minutes ago, Ashez said:

He's been to three CL finals ffs, yes he's not won them but he's got there and he'll hopefully be holding the trophy two weeks today. Winning titles is important but it's not the be all and end all, we've gone from being dicked 6-1 to Stoke City to back to back CL finals and a Europa League final. I wouldn't swap Klopp for anyone, he's the perfect manager for us and he'll win eventually. 

Yeah people like to bring up the finals Klopp has lost but as you say you’ve got to get to them. The 6-1 you mention rings a bell for me as at that time I had no idea what was going to happen at the club as we had no real financial muscle to get back in.

I had resigned myself to thinking that I’d never see the team win the league as I was too young last time but I think we will now and I’m lucky anyway as we’ve won everything else in my time apart from that tinpot world shite.

24 minutes ago, Rob said:

Klopp wouldn’t even be in my top three. I’m bias, I know, but the transformation of my boys under Poch has been a much better achievement.

Really like Poch Rob and he’s done a great job. 

7 minutes ago, Nucleus said:

Against the worst Bayern Munich team of the past 20 odd years 😛 

Not knocking Klopp at all, I actually like him but until he has sustained success then this isn’t even up for debate tbh 

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You Scousers clutch at everything don’t you! 

I said Fergie was the best but I’m more than happy with our current manager. 

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I wonder how many runners up awards Fergie had in his time, his honours list could potentially be massive 😂

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1 minute ago, Ashez said:

Find a fan who wouldn't swap our lost finals for their dull mid table or top four finishes. 

You were bloody fourth yourself last year 😂

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4 minutes ago, Nucleus said:

I wonder how many runners up awards Fergie had in his time, his honours list could potentially be massive 😂

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You were bloody fourth yourself last year 😂

He lose many in Europe? Obviously he won two at United and the cup winners. 

Exactly so I know what I'm on about 😂, mock Klopp for failure but he'll cross the line eventually and he's made these passed 3 European Final seasons magical. 3 European final seasons in 4 years ffs. 

It amazes me how underrated Klopp. 

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2 minutes ago, Ashez said:

He lose many in Europe?

Lost to Pep, twice 😂 2009 & 2011. Why do you think I said Pep’s the best ever 😛 

 

4 minutes ago, Ashez said:

he'll cross the line eventually

I’ve no doubt he will, but he’ll need to sustain it to be considered a true great, like Fergie, Pep, Mourinho, Van Gaal & Moyes

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13 minutes ago, Nucleus said:

I wonder how many runners up awards Fergie had in his time, his honours list could potentially be massive 😂

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You were bloody fourth yourself last year 😂

Who said runners up were honours as I certainly didn’t.

Fergie as I’ve said is the best for me but his European record wasn’t great when you look at Paisley who got 3 Big ones in 9 years. I have a feeling if fergie took over at Liverpool in 1986 then he may well have more to his name.

Yes we scraped fourth last season so shows how well we’ve done this and although we’ve fallen short I’m happy.

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1 minute ago, Nucleus said:

Lost to Pep, twice 😂 2009 & 2011

Against arguably the best team of this generation mind 

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Mcgready might be your best player but he was incredibly selfish and awful, the amount of times Charlton broke off his ridicules shots or dilly dallying to get a shot in was infuriating me. The worst part was Sunderland kept looking to him (like we used to with Gerrard) so if just kept happening, instead of playing they were just hoping for a wonder goal. 

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2 hours ago, Woody said:

Sheik Mansour's cousin looks like he is buying Newcastle. According to various newspapers.

 

Also rumours of someone linked to the PSG owners buying Leeds 

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@samhardy still hasn’t said anything, probably raging quietly.

17 hours ago, Ashez said:

Mcgready might be your best player but he was incredibly selfish and awful, the amount of times Charlton broke off his ridicules shots or dilly dallying to get a shot in was infuriating me. The worst part was Sunderland kept looking to him (like we used to with Gerrard) so if just kept happening, instead of playing they were just hoping for a wonder goal. 

👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 exactly what I was thinking as I saw that match. 

 

2 hours ago, Woody said:

Sheik Mansour's cousin looks like he is buying Newcastle. According to various newspapers.

Erm, sure Woody 

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59 minutes ago, Gunners Rishi said:

@samhardy still hasn’t said anything, probably raging quietly.

👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 exactly what I was thinking as I saw that match. 

 

Erm, sure Woody 

He's hungover at a football tournament judging on what he said to me before leaving for Wembley

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1 hour ago, Ashez said:

Also rumours of someone linked to the PSG owners buying Leeds 

Would be good to see a secent Leeds side again.

1 hour ago, Gunners Rishi said:

@samhardy still hasn’t said anything, probably raging quietly.

👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 exactly what I was thinking as I saw that match. 

 

Erm, sure Woody 

Its 100% true...been reported on Al-Jazeera news too.

Wether it will go through is another thing altogether. Ashley is a P@#$ so who knows! In charge

Same chap who tried to but Liverpool last year and wants to keep Rafa in charge.

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On 20/05/2019 at 22:53, Foxy said:

This is how player managers should be dressed.

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Ah the good old days 😍

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17 minutes ago, smoggy90 said:

Ah the good old days 😍

When I think about those years it doesn’t take long before I think of Juninho and what a brilliant player he was.

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5 hours ago, 1759 said:

When I think about those years it doesn’t take long before I think of Juninho and what a brilliant player he was.

Different class he was mate. What a player. 

They were fun times as we also had the likes of boksic, ravanelli, karambeu, Emerson. 

We’re a long way from that now. 

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4 hours ago, samhardy said:

Absolutely ridiculous decision this

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48555148

Why would it be? Scholes was hired by Oldham that was doing ok in league two and left after a month whilst sol Campbell had to go find Macclesfield who were in the league two relegation spots. Whilst I don’t believe that there is some sort of conspiracy racist agenda or something it can’t hurt to have some more BAME coaches

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Also real are gearing up their attack looks fearsome with Hazard Jovic as well as benzema

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20 minutes ago, Gunners Rishi said:

Why would it be? Scholes was hired by Oldham that was doing ok in league two and left after a month whilst sol Campbell had to go find Macclesfield who were in the league two relegation spots. Whilst I don’t believe that there is some sort of conspiracy racist agenda or something it can’t hurt to have some more BAME coaches

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Also real are gearing up their attack looks fearsome with Hazard Jovic as well as benzema

I thinks Sam's point is they should be interviewed on merit and not due to a checklist. How do interviews just to make up the numbers help? I assume they just hope a few will impress who might not have originally been looked at.

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31 minutes ago, Gunners Rishi said:

Why would it be? Scholes was hired by Oldham that was doing ok in league two and left after a month whilst sol Campbell had to go find Macclesfield who were in the league two relegation spots. Whilst I don’t believe that there is some sort of conspiracy racist agenda or something it can’t hurt to have some more BAME coaches

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Also real are gearing up their attack looks fearsome with Hazard Jovic as well as benzema

I have read your post 10 times and still have absolutely no idea what your point is about Scholes and Campbell.

If a candidate is good enough to be invited for an interview then they would get invited regardless of religion or skin colour. Imagine being a black manager and getting an invite for an interview you have no chance of getting purely so that a club complies with a rule.

Might as well apply the same rule so you have to interview a woman as well. Absolutely bonkers decision and political correctness gone mad.

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