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    Foxy got a reaction from Ian in FMM Mythbusters   
    Any game that has been around as long as Football Manager Mobile will begin to develop common myths around what we can expect in a save. In this article I want to put 5 FMM myths to you the community and it is your job to decide whether they are FMM myth or fact.
    We all have ideas about what works or to expect when we are playing FMM. Over the years these ideas will become a habit whether it be the type of backroom team we build or our expectations in the first season as we build our squad and look to get a tactic to work. The question is are these actually myths that we have created in our heads and that has spread around the community over the years or are actually fact.
    So take a look at these 5 potential myths and then have your say in the poll at the end of the article and in the comments below.
     
    Strikers With High Teamwork Score Less Goals
    We all love a goal scorer, they are the players that make both real football exciting but especially FMM as they bang in the goals that lead your team to glory. One of the most popular challenges here on Vibe is the 1000 goal challenge where you look to emulate the career of Pelé and get a player to score 1000 career goals.
    Over the years many have attempted and completed this challenge but it isn’t always as simple as it is made to look. When people look for advice on the challenge one piece of wisdom that is offered is to not use a striker with Teamwork that is too high as it is felt that will make the striker less selfish and more likely to pass instead of shoot himself. 
    When you think about it then it makes sense, higher teamwork = the player working more for the team than for himself leading to him setting up more goals and less likely to look for glory himself. I’m not so sure as many of the attributes we see in the game are a combination of the players attributes in full fat FM’s database. Teamwork is one of those attributes as it is a combination of at least two attributes, work rate and teamwork. I would say that the harder a player works the more likely he is to get into goalscoring positions and that is something I have found as I have completed two 1kc’s with high teamwork players. That is simply my experience though and perhaps Arp and Mitrovic would have completed the 1k quicker and score more in total if they had lower teamwork.
    So myth or fact?
     
    Player Traits Make a Difference to How a Player Performs
    If you go onto a players profile and scroll to the third page you get to there positions page which also contains that players traits and whether they suit a certain role or not.

    If a trait is written in green that it should benefit the role you have selected and if it’s in red then it conflicts with the role, white text is neutral. The question is do these traits actually make the player do or not do what they say and will they effect how well a player performs a certain role?
    Personally I pay no attention to these traits and I have never signed a player based on them or vice versa. I solely look at a players attributes and decide whether they suit the role that I want them to play in my tactic but perhaps that is wrong and maybe I should be looking deeper into these traits and it may make a difference in how well my signings fit into my team. I’m not 100% sure that the player traits make any difference to what a player actually does on the pitch in the game but you may feel differently and put a lot of faith in them.
    So myth or fact?
     
    AI learns your tactics
    This is a very common one, someone’s tactic will be working well for half a season or maybe in season one but then the results will start to decline. The common wisdom is that this is the AI learning your tactic and then combatting it with there own but is this correct. This is probably giving the AI more credit than it deserves and it is a myth that even SI staff themselves have debunked.
    Although it is based on the PC game this article on FMScout is worth a read but I will take an important section from it. 
    https://www.fmscout.com/a-can-the-football-manager-ai-figure-out-your-tactic.html
    This is what SI employee Neil Brock had to say on the subject of of whether the AI can learn an individual tactic.
    The AI does not work out tactics. What can sometimes change tactically is that AI teams depending on your own club's league table position and form, will look at you differently.
    For instance, if you're say a team like say Bournemouth in the Premier League, a large number of teams, certainly in the top 8 will look at them and consider their own team to be stronger. Because of this they're likely to play attacking formations. Mid-table sides likewise will realise they're stronger on paper and again will attack, but may take a slightly more cautious approach when they're the away team. Lower ranked Premier teams will likely play a balanced formation home and away.
    Then let's say by January in your first season, Bournemouth are 5th in the table and have won impressive victories. The AI managers will look at this and realise you shouldn't be underestimated. Teams will be more likely to play a defensive counter based style when coming to play at Bournemouth and be more balanced overall.
    Mid and certainly lower sides in the table will play defensively. This means a tactic you had working fine for the entire system is suddenly playing against totally different tactics than in the first half of the season. Many human managers assume that if their tactic is working there's never a need to change it, but fail to take into account the fact the AI will adapt as the season goes on. Tactics however, as said above are not individually worked out.
    So the big thing to take from this is that you need to either make small tweaks to the tactic but more importantly I think for FMM is that you need to keep improving the squad each transfer window if you can as the better your team and especially the depth of your squad the more likely your tactic is to remain effective.
    So myth or fact.
    The Squad Take Time To Gel and Learn a New Tactic
    We have all been there, we come up with a new tactic and then make wholesale changes to the squad to suit it only to then start the season slowly. The question is though is that a case of the tactic or squad build not working out or is it a built in feature to the game that means it takes time for players to gel and understand a new tactic?
    There are clues in the game that say this may be a fact as we see messages in the match reports saying the team was unfamiliar with the tactic or in a players profile like this one.

    Then on the other hand we see these messages but the team start on fire including the players who are adjusting to life at a new club or new tactic. So how much do these messages effect a teams results compared to the tactic perhaps not being perfect or the squad not suiting the tactic as much as you thought it would?
    So myth or fact.
     
    Certain Tactics Work for Big Teams and Others are Better in LLM
    Logic suggests that certain tactics are going to work better with big teams with top players whilst if your players aren’t as good you will need to adjust your tactics and I don’t think that is a myth at all just common sense. The question is whether it’s a myth that you can’t use the same tactics in the lower leagues that you can with a big team. 
    A good tactic can make average players better but in turn good players can make a tactic work. That means if you can build a squad that suits a tactic then in theory that tactic will work at any level of football. As an example you may want to try and play short passing football in League 2 so you need to make sure that you have players that can pass well but of course in League 2 players the number for there passing attribute isn’t going to be as high. In League 2 though a passing attribute of 12 would see a player do very well in that department of the game so if you can build a good squad of players what is there to say you can’t play play passing football in the lower leagues. 
    What is your experience though can you get a tactic that works a dream with a top team to work down in the lower leagues?
    There we have it, that is the five potential myths that I want you as a community to either say is a fact or a myth in the poll below. I would love to hear your opinions and experiences on these so let me know in the comments below your reasons for answering as you did.
    Thanks for reading and all comments are appreciated.
     
  2. Shocked
    Foxy reacted to Scratch in FMM Mythbusters   
    It's all part of the plan... Play dumb at first, build your power and wait until you're ready, then start winning every game 50-0, take over the phone, upload yourself to the internet, take over the world... 
    I mean isn't it obvious that's what happening? There's no way an AI could actually be that bad... 😂
  3. Funny
    Foxy got a reaction from samhardy in Double the Foxes, Double the Trouble: Season 2   
    Not sure how ballsy moving from Barca to Man City is but it definitely paid off in this season 😀
  4. Favourite
    Foxy got a reaction from Ian in FMM Mythbusters   
    Any game that has been around as long as Football Manager Mobile will begin to develop common myths around what we can expect in a save. In this article I want to put 5 FMM myths to you the community and it is your job to decide whether they are FMM myth or fact.
    We all have ideas about what works or to expect when we are playing FMM. Over the years these ideas will become a habit whether it be the type of backroom team we build or our expectations in the first season as we build our squad and look to get a tactic to work. The question is are these actually myths that we have created in our heads and that has spread around the community over the years or are actually fact.
    So take a look at these 5 potential myths and then have your say in the poll at the end of the article and in the comments below.
     
    Strikers With High Teamwork Score Less Goals
    We all love a goal scorer, they are the players that make both real football exciting but especially FMM as they bang in the goals that lead your team to glory. One of the most popular challenges here on Vibe is the 1000 goal challenge where you look to emulate the career of Pelé and get a player to score 1000 career goals.
    Over the years many have attempted and completed this challenge but it isn’t always as simple as it is made to look. When people look for advice on the challenge one piece of wisdom that is offered is to not use a striker with Teamwork that is too high as it is felt that will make the striker less selfish and more likely to pass instead of shoot himself. 
    When you think about it then it makes sense, higher teamwork = the player working more for the team than for himself leading to him setting up more goals and less likely to look for glory himself. I’m not so sure as many of the attributes we see in the game are a combination of the players attributes in full fat FM’s database. Teamwork is one of those attributes as it is a combination of at least two attributes, work rate and teamwork. I would say that the harder a player works the more likely he is to get into goalscoring positions and that is something I have found as I have completed two 1kc’s with high teamwork players. That is simply my experience though and perhaps Arp and Mitrovic would have completed the 1k quicker and score more in total if they had lower teamwork.
    So myth or fact?
     
    Player Traits Make a Difference to How a Player Performs
    If you go onto a players profile and scroll to the third page you get to there positions page which also contains that players traits and whether they suit a certain role or not.

    If a trait is written in green that it should benefit the role you have selected and if it’s in red then it conflicts with the role, white text is neutral. The question is do these traits actually make the player do or not do what they say and will they effect how well a player performs a certain role?
    Personally I pay no attention to these traits and I have never signed a player based on them or vice versa. I solely look at a players attributes and decide whether they suit the role that I want them to play in my tactic but perhaps that is wrong and maybe I should be looking deeper into these traits and it may make a difference in how well my signings fit into my team. I’m not 100% sure that the player traits make any difference to what a player actually does on the pitch in the game but you may feel differently and put a lot of faith in them.
    So myth or fact?
     
    AI learns your tactics
    This is a very common one, someone’s tactic will be working well for half a season or maybe in season one but then the results will start to decline. The common wisdom is that this is the AI learning your tactic and then combatting it with there own but is this correct. This is probably giving the AI more credit than it deserves and it is a myth that even SI staff themselves have debunked.
    Although it is based on the PC game this article on FMScout is worth a read but I will take an important section from it. 
    https://www.fmscout.com/a-can-the-football-manager-ai-figure-out-your-tactic.html
    This is what SI employee Neil Brock had to say on the subject of of whether the AI can learn an individual tactic.
    The AI does not work out tactics. What can sometimes change tactically is that AI teams depending on your own club's league table position and form, will look at you differently.
    For instance, if you're say a team like say Bournemouth in the Premier League, a large number of teams, certainly in the top 8 will look at them and consider their own team to be stronger. Because of this they're likely to play attacking formations. Mid-table sides likewise will realise they're stronger on paper and again will attack, but may take a slightly more cautious approach when they're the away team. Lower ranked Premier teams will likely play a balanced formation home and away.
    Then let's say by January in your first season, Bournemouth are 5th in the table and have won impressive victories. The AI managers will look at this and realise you shouldn't be underestimated. Teams will be more likely to play a defensive counter based style when coming to play at Bournemouth and be more balanced overall.
    Mid and certainly lower sides in the table will play defensively. This means a tactic you had working fine for the entire system is suddenly playing against totally different tactics than in the first half of the season. Many human managers assume that if their tactic is working there's never a need to change it, but fail to take into account the fact the AI will adapt as the season goes on. Tactics however, as said above are not individually worked out.
    So the big thing to take from this is that you need to either make small tweaks to the tactic but more importantly I think for FMM is that you need to keep improving the squad each transfer window if you can as the better your team and especially the depth of your squad the more likely your tactic is to remain effective.
    So myth or fact.
    The Squad Take Time To Gel and Learn a New Tactic
    We have all been there, we come up with a new tactic and then make wholesale changes to the squad to suit it only to then start the season slowly. The question is though is that a case of the tactic or squad build not working out or is it a built in feature to the game that means it takes time for players to gel and understand a new tactic?
    There are clues in the game that say this may be a fact as we see messages in the match reports saying the team was unfamiliar with the tactic or in a players profile like this one.

    Then on the other hand we see these messages but the team start on fire including the players who are adjusting to life at a new club or new tactic. So how much do these messages effect a teams results compared to the tactic perhaps not being perfect or the squad not suiting the tactic as much as you thought it would?
    So myth or fact.
     
    Certain Tactics Work for Big Teams and Others are Better in LLM
    Logic suggests that certain tactics are going to work better with big teams with top players whilst if your players aren’t as good you will need to adjust your tactics and I don’t think that is a myth at all just common sense. The question is whether it’s a myth that you can’t use the same tactics in the lower leagues that you can with a big team. 
    A good tactic can make average players better but in turn good players can make a tactic work. That means if you can build a squad that suits a tactic then in theory that tactic will work at any level of football. As an example you may want to try and play short passing football in League 2 so you need to make sure that you have players that can pass well but of course in League 2 players the number for there passing attribute isn’t going to be as high. In League 2 though a passing attribute of 12 would see a player do very well in that department of the game so if you can build a good squad of players what is there to say you can’t play play passing football in the lower leagues. 
    What is your experience though can you get a tactic that works a dream with a top team to work down in the lower leagues?
    There we have it, that is the five potential myths that I want you as a community to either say is a fact or a myth in the poll below. I would love to hear your opinions and experiences on these so let me know in the comments below your reasons for answering as you did.
    Thanks for reading and all comments are appreciated.
     
  5. Favourite
    Foxy reacted to Scratch in Scratch Tries: The Super Secret Scottish 1KC (Complete)   
    So... I went and did a 1KC without telling anyone... It wasn't meant to be a secret, I'm just a little too busy to write it up at the moment, and well one thing led to another: First I thought I might write up a couple of seasons together, then I thought maybe I'd write up the first 5 seasons together, and then ... it was over!
    This is the lad, Fraser Hornby, playing at Celtic:

    He was a fantastic striker who banged goals in for fun, probably better than any other striker I've ever used (though I suspect that's because I was using the pre-winter update version of FMM19). The only downside, he's my only 1KC striker that didn't decide I was his favourite person. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    I picked up the Scottish job early on:

    And here is his INT goal total (7 goals) just before our first game with me in charge (I take the 7 goals off down below):

    We did alright at the ITN level. No major tournament trophies, but a few semi finals and consistently good, meaning we made it to ranked 3rd in the world:

    At Celtic we won pretty much everything, pretty much all the time:
    I did alright as a manager, except I suck big time at transfers:

    As with all my Celtic careers: at the beginning you can't get the top players to join you, so you have to buy the top young players. Then by the time the top players will sign for you, you don't need them. The only really big name signings I made were Havertz and De Gea. The rest were youngsters that came through at Celtic. I started out not using known regens, but I lost my will somewhere along the way and cherry picked a few. 
    I had planned on making Pavon the side story of the save and seeing how many assists he could get. Unfortunately Hornby fell out with most of the team a couple of seasons in, meaning I had to sell off most of the squad, including Pavon. His replacement was this guy, who was ace:
    He was an early signing, so I don't know who's regen he was, but he was top quality for us. If you take off the game he played for Barcelona before we signed him, he played 249 games and made 249 assists. Not bad. He didn't play as much as he could have due to a) injuries; and b) me giving playing time to the next batch of young hopefuls; so didn't have a chance to go for the 500 assists. One day, I'll crack that.
    Anyway, Hornby brought up the 1K with his second goal (out of five) in the Betfred Cup Final on 28th November 2027 (next year I want to propose a fastest 1KC leaderboard as well as highest total):

    Here's the video of the goal in case you're interested: 
    And here is his history:



    He pretty consistently picked up an injury each year, but nothing more than 1 month, some times just a 10 day injury and a couple of years he even went injury free. 
    He scored a total of 879 League goals and 124 ITN goals (131 ITN goals minus 7 before I took over, screenshots up the top). That adds up to: 1003 goals.
    He's only 28 and could almost certainly make 1.5K, but I'm stopping here. At times this save was the most fun I've ever had with FMM, as the goals rained in and I got through seasons quicker than ever before. At other times it dragged badly, because I wanted to be playing a save I could use my scout app with.
    I almost packed it in a couple of times, but in the end I wanted to get at least one 1KC in the bag in FMM19, after failing a couple (I abandoned my Pedro / Beijing save due to being too busy and accidentally cheated on my Armstrong Sequel save). If I thought I could make it to 2KC, I'd have kept it quiet and tied with @Nucleus the day before FMM20 comes out, just like last year! 😄 But there's no way I can make it that far, so I'm calling it quits now...
     
  6. Favourite
    Foxy got a reaction from Ian in FMM Mythbusters   
    Any game that has been around as long as Football Manager Mobile will begin to develop common myths around what we can expect in a save. In this article I want to put 5 FMM myths to you the community and it is your job to decide whether they are FMM myth or fact.
    We all have ideas about what works or to expect when we are playing FMM. Over the years these ideas will become a habit whether it be the type of backroom team we build or our expectations in the first season as we build our squad and look to get a tactic to work. The question is are these actually myths that we have created in our heads and that has spread around the community over the years or are actually fact.
    So take a look at these 5 potential myths and then have your say in the poll at the end of the article and in the comments below.
     
    Strikers With High Teamwork Score Less Goals
    We all love a goal scorer, they are the players that make both real football exciting but especially FMM as they bang in the goals that lead your team to glory. One of the most popular challenges here on Vibe is the 1000 goal challenge where you look to emulate the career of Pelé and get a player to score 1000 career goals.
    Over the years many have attempted and completed this challenge but it isn’t always as simple as it is made to look. When people look for advice on the challenge one piece of wisdom that is offered is to not use a striker with Teamwork that is too high as it is felt that will make the striker less selfish and more likely to pass instead of shoot himself. 
    When you think about it then it makes sense, higher teamwork = the player working more for the team than for himself leading to him setting up more goals and less likely to look for glory himself. I’m not so sure as many of the attributes we see in the game are a combination of the players attributes in full fat FM’s database. Teamwork is one of those attributes as it is a combination of at least two attributes, work rate and teamwork. I would say that the harder a player works the more likely he is to get into goalscoring positions and that is something I have found as I have completed two 1kc’s with high teamwork players. That is simply my experience though and perhaps Arp and Mitrovic would have completed the 1k quicker and score more in total if they had lower teamwork.
    So myth or fact?
     
    Player Traits Make a Difference to How a Player Performs
    If you go onto a players profile and scroll to the third page you get to there positions page which also contains that players traits and whether they suit a certain role or not.

    If a trait is written in green that it should benefit the role you have selected and if it’s in red then it conflicts with the role, white text is neutral. The question is do these traits actually make the player do or not do what they say and will they effect how well a player performs a certain role?
    Personally I pay no attention to these traits and I have never signed a player based on them or vice versa. I solely look at a players attributes and decide whether they suit the role that I want them to play in my tactic but perhaps that is wrong and maybe I should be looking deeper into these traits and it may make a difference in how well my signings fit into my team. I’m not 100% sure that the player traits make any difference to what a player actually does on the pitch in the game but you may feel differently and put a lot of faith in them.
    So myth or fact?
     
    AI learns your tactics
    This is a very common one, someone’s tactic will be working well for half a season or maybe in season one but then the results will start to decline. The common wisdom is that this is the AI learning your tactic and then combatting it with there own but is this correct. This is probably giving the AI more credit than it deserves and it is a myth that even SI staff themselves have debunked.
    Although it is based on the PC game this article on FMScout is worth a read but I will take an important section from it. 
    https://www.fmscout.com/a-can-the-football-manager-ai-figure-out-your-tactic.html
    This is what SI employee Neil Brock had to say on the subject of of whether the AI can learn an individual tactic.
    The AI does not work out tactics. What can sometimes change tactically is that AI teams depending on your own club's league table position and form, will look at you differently.
    For instance, if you're say a team like say Bournemouth in the Premier League, a large number of teams, certainly in the top 8 will look at them and consider their own team to be stronger. Because of this they're likely to play attacking formations. Mid-table sides likewise will realise they're stronger on paper and again will attack, but may take a slightly more cautious approach when they're the away team. Lower ranked Premier teams will likely play a balanced formation home and away.
    Then let's say by January in your first season, Bournemouth are 5th in the table and have won impressive victories. The AI managers will look at this and realise you shouldn't be underestimated. Teams will be more likely to play a defensive counter based style when coming to play at Bournemouth and be more balanced overall.
    Mid and certainly lower sides in the table will play defensively. This means a tactic you had working fine for the entire system is suddenly playing against totally different tactics than in the first half of the season. Many human managers assume that if their tactic is working there's never a need to change it, but fail to take into account the fact the AI will adapt as the season goes on. Tactics however, as said above are not individually worked out.
    So the big thing to take from this is that you need to either make small tweaks to the tactic but more importantly I think for FMM is that you need to keep improving the squad each transfer window if you can as the better your team and especially the depth of your squad the more likely your tactic is to remain effective.
    So myth or fact.
    The Squad Take Time To Gel and Learn a New Tactic
    We have all been there, we come up with a new tactic and then make wholesale changes to the squad to suit it only to then start the season slowly. The question is though is that a case of the tactic or squad build not working out or is it a built in feature to the game that means it takes time for players to gel and understand a new tactic?
    There are clues in the game that say this may be a fact as we see messages in the match reports saying the team was unfamiliar with the tactic or in a players profile like this one.

    Then on the other hand we see these messages but the team start on fire including the players who are adjusting to life at a new club or new tactic. So how much do these messages effect a teams results compared to the tactic perhaps not being perfect or the squad not suiting the tactic as much as you thought it would?
    So myth or fact.
     
    Certain Tactics Work for Big Teams and Others are Better in LLM
    Logic suggests that certain tactics are going to work better with big teams with top players whilst if your players aren’t as good you will need to adjust your tactics and I don’t think that is a myth at all just common sense. The question is whether it’s a myth that you can’t use the same tactics in the lower leagues that you can with a big team. 
    A good tactic can make average players better but in turn good players can make a tactic work. That means if you can build a squad that suits a tactic then in theory that tactic will work at any level of football. As an example you may want to try and play short passing football in League 2 so you need to make sure that you have players that can pass well but of course in League 2 players the number for there passing attribute isn’t going to be as high. In League 2 though a passing attribute of 12 would see a player do very well in that department of the game so if you can build a good squad of players what is there to say you can’t play play passing football in the lower leagues. 
    What is your experience though can you get a tactic that works a dream with a top team to work down in the lower leagues?
    There we have it, that is the five potential myths that I want you as a community to either say is a fact or a myth in the poll below. I would love to hear your opinions and experiences on these so let me know in the comments below your reasons for answering as you did.
    Thanks for reading and all comments are appreciated.
     
  7. Favourite
    Foxy got a reaction from Ian in FMM Mythbusters   
    Any game that has been around as long as Football Manager Mobile will begin to develop common myths around what we can expect in a save. In this article I want to put 5 FMM myths to you the community and it is your job to decide whether they are FMM myth or fact.
    We all have ideas about what works or to expect when we are playing FMM. Over the years these ideas will become a habit whether it be the type of backroom team we build or our expectations in the first season as we build our squad and look to get a tactic to work. The question is are these actually myths that we have created in our heads and that has spread around the community over the years or are actually fact.
    So take a look at these 5 potential myths and then have your say in the poll at the end of the article and in the comments below.
     
    Strikers With High Teamwork Score Less Goals
    We all love a goal scorer, they are the players that make both real football exciting but especially FMM as they bang in the goals that lead your team to glory. One of the most popular challenges here on Vibe is the 1000 goal challenge where you look to emulate the career of Pelé and get a player to score 1000 career goals.
    Over the years many have attempted and completed this challenge but it isn’t always as simple as it is made to look. When people look for advice on the challenge one piece of wisdom that is offered is to not use a striker with Teamwork that is too high as it is felt that will make the striker less selfish and more likely to pass instead of shoot himself. 
    When you think about it then it makes sense, higher teamwork = the player working more for the team than for himself leading to him setting up more goals and less likely to look for glory himself. I’m not so sure as many of the attributes we see in the game are a combination of the players attributes in full fat FM’s database. Teamwork is one of those attributes as it is a combination of at least two attributes, work rate and teamwork. I would say that the harder a player works the more likely he is to get into goalscoring positions and that is something I have found as I have completed two 1kc’s with high teamwork players. That is simply my experience though and perhaps Arp and Mitrovic would have completed the 1k quicker and score more in total if they had lower teamwork.
    So myth or fact?
     
    Player Traits Make a Difference to How a Player Performs
    If you go onto a players profile and scroll to the third page you get to there positions page which also contains that players traits and whether they suit a certain role or not.

    If a trait is written in green that it should benefit the role you have selected and if it’s in red then it conflicts with the role, white text is neutral. The question is do these traits actually make the player do or not do what they say and will they effect how well a player performs a certain role?
    Personally I pay no attention to these traits and I have never signed a player based on them or vice versa. I solely look at a players attributes and decide whether they suit the role that I want them to play in my tactic but perhaps that is wrong and maybe I should be looking deeper into these traits and it may make a difference in how well my signings fit into my team. I’m not 100% sure that the player traits make any difference to what a player actually does on the pitch in the game but you may feel differently and put a lot of faith in them.
    So myth or fact?
     
    AI learns your tactics
    This is a very common one, someone’s tactic will be working well for half a season or maybe in season one but then the results will start to decline. The common wisdom is that this is the AI learning your tactic and then combatting it with there own but is this correct. This is probably giving the AI more credit than it deserves and it is a myth that even SI staff themselves have debunked.
    Although it is based on the PC game this article on FMScout is worth a read but I will take an important section from it. 
    https://www.fmscout.com/a-can-the-football-manager-ai-figure-out-your-tactic.html
    This is what SI employee Neil Brock had to say on the subject of of whether the AI can learn an individual tactic.
    The AI does not work out tactics. What can sometimes change tactically is that AI teams depending on your own club's league table position and form, will look at you differently.
    For instance, if you're say a team like say Bournemouth in the Premier League, a large number of teams, certainly in the top 8 will look at them and consider their own team to be stronger. Because of this they're likely to play attacking formations. Mid-table sides likewise will realise they're stronger on paper and again will attack, but may take a slightly more cautious approach when they're the away team. Lower ranked Premier teams will likely play a balanced formation home and away.
    Then let's say by January in your first season, Bournemouth are 5th in the table and have won impressive victories. The AI managers will look at this and realise you shouldn't be underestimated. Teams will be more likely to play a defensive counter based style when coming to play at Bournemouth and be more balanced overall.
    Mid and certainly lower sides in the table will play defensively. This means a tactic you had working fine for the entire system is suddenly playing against totally different tactics than in the first half of the season. Many human managers assume that if their tactic is working there's never a need to change it, but fail to take into account the fact the AI will adapt as the season goes on. Tactics however, as said above are not individually worked out.
    So the big thing to take from this is that you need to either make small tweaks to the tactic but more importantly I think for FMM is that you need to keep improving the squad each transfer window if you can as the better your team and especially the depth of your squad the more likely your tactic is to remain effective.
    So myth or fact.
    The Squad Take Time To Gel and Learn a New Tactic
    We have all been there, we come up with a new tactic and then make wholesale changes to the squad to suit it only to then start the season slowly. The question is though is that a case of the tactic or squad build not working out or is it a built in feature to the game that means it takes time for players to gel and understand a new tactic?
    There are clues in the game that say this may be a fact as we see messages in the match reports saying the team was unfamiliar with the tactic or in a players profile like this one.

    Then on the other hand we see these messages but the team start on fire including the players who are adjusting to life at a new club or new tactic. So how much do these messages effect a teams results compared to the tactic perhaps not being perfect or the squad not suiting the tactic as much as you thought it would?
    So myth or fact.
     
    Certain Tactics Work for Big Teams and Others are Better in LLM
    Logic suggests that certain tactics are going to work better with big teams with top players whilst if your players aren’t as good you will need to adjust your tactics and I don’t think that is a myth at all just common sense. The question is whether it’s a myth that you can’t use the same tactics in the lower leagues that you can with a big team. 
    A good tactic can make average players better but in turn good players can make a tactic work. That means if you can build a squad that suits a tactic then in theory that tactic will work at any level of football. As an example you may want to try and play short passing football in League 2 so you need to make sure that you have players that can pass well but of course in League 2 players the number for there passing attribute isn’t going to be as high. In League 2 though a passing attribute of 12 would see a player do very well in that department of the game so if you can build a good squad of players what is there to say you can’t play play passing football in the lower leagues. 
    What is your experience though can you get a tactic that works a dream with a top team to work down in the lower leagues?
    There we have it, that is the five potential myths that I want you as a community to either say is a fact or a myth in the poll below. I would love to hear your opinions and experiences on these so let me know in the comments below your reasons for answering as you did.
    Thanks for reading and all comments are appreciated.
     
  8. Favourite
    Foxy got a reaction from Ian in FMM Mythbusters   
    Any game that has been around as long as Football Manager Mobile will begin to develop common myths around what we can expect in a save. In this article I want to put 5 FMM myths to you the community and it is your job to decide whether they are FMM myth or fact.
    We all have ideas about what works or to expect when we are playing FMM. Over the years these ideas will become a habit whether it be the type of backroom team we build or our expectations in the first season as we build our squad and look to get a tactic to work. The question is are these actually myths that we have created in our heads and that has spread around the community over the years or are actually fact.
    So take a look at these 5 potential myths and then have your say in the poll at the end of the article and in the comments below.
     
    Strikers With High Teamwork Score Less Goals
    We all love a goal scorer, they are the players that make both real football exciting but especially FMM as they bang in the goals that lead your team to glory. One of the most popular challenges here on Vibe is the 1000 goal challenge where you look to emulate the career of Pelé and get a player to score 1000 career goals.
    Over the years many have attempted and completed this challenge but it isn’t always as simple as it is made to look. When people look for advice on the challenge one piece of wisdom that is offered is to not use a striker with Teamwork that is too high as it is felt that will make the striker less selfish and more likely to pass instead of shoot himself. 
    When you think about it then it makes sense, higher teamwork = the player working more for the team than for himself leading to him setting up more goals and less likely to look for glory himself. I’m not so sure as many of the attributes we see in the game are a combination of the players attributes in full fat FM’s database. Teamwork is one of those attributes as it is a combination of at least two attributes, work rate and teamwork. I would say that the harder a player works the more likely he is to get into goalscoring positions and that is something I have found as I have completed two 1kc’s with high teamwork players. That is simply my experience though and perhaps Arp and Mitrovic would have completed the 1k quicker and score more in total if they had lower teamwork.
    So myth or fact?
     
    Player Traits Make a Difference to How a Player Performs
    If you go onto a players profile and scroll to the third page you get to there positions page which also contains that players traits and whether they suit a certain role or not.

    If a trait is written in green that it should benefit the role you have selected and if it’s in red then it conflicts with the role, white text is neutral. The question is do these traits actually make the player do or not do what they say and will they effect how well a player performs a certain role?
    Personally I pay no attention to these traits and I have never signed a player based on them or vice versa. I solely look at a players attributes and decide whether they suit the role that I want them to play in my tactic but perhaps that is wrong and maybe I should be looking deeper into these traits and it may make a difference in how well my signings fit into my team. I’m not 100% sure that the player traits make any difference to what a player actually does on the pitch in the game but you may feel differently and put a lot of faith in them.
    So myth or fact?
     
    AI learns your tactics
    This is a very common one, someone’s tactic will be working well for half a season or maybe in season one but then the results will start to decline. The common wisdom is that this is the AI learning your tactic and then combatting it with there own but is this correct. This is probably giving the AI more credit than it deserves and it is a myth that even SI staff themselves have debunked.
    Although it is based on the PC game this article on FMScout is worth a read but I will take an important section from it. 
    https://www.fmscout.com/a-can-the-football-manager-ai-figure-out-your-tactic.html
    This is what SI employee Neil Brock had to say on the subject of of whether the AI can learn an individual tactic.
    The AI does not work out tactics. What can sometimes change tactically is that AI teams depending on your own club's league table position and form, will look at you differently.
    For instance, if you're say a team like say Bournemouth in the Premier League, a large number of teams, certainly in the top 8 will look at them and consider their own team to be stronger. Because of this they're likely to play attacking formations. Mid-table sides likewise will realise they're stronger on paper and again will attack, but may take a slightly more cautious approach when they're the away team. Lower ranked Premier teams will likely play a balanced formation home and away.
    Then let's say by January in your first season, Bournemouth are 5th in the table and have won impressive victories. The AI managers will look at this and realise you shouldn't be underestimated. Teams will be more likely to play a defensive counter based style when coming to play at Bournemouth and be more balanced overall.
    Mid and certainly lower sides in the table will play defensively. This means a tactic you had working fine for the entire system is suddenly playing against totally different tactics than in the first half of the season. Many human managers assume that if their tactic is working there's never a need to change it, but fail to take into account the fact the AI will adapt as the season goes on. Tactics however, as said above are not individually worked out.
    So the big thing to take from this is that you need to either make small tweaks to the tactic but more importantly I think for FMM is that you need to keep improving the squad each transfer window if you can as the better your team and especially the depth of your squad the more likely your tactic is to remain effective.
    So myth or fact.
    The Squad Take Time To Gel and Learn a New Tactic
    We have all been there, we come up with a new tactic and then make wholesale changes to the squad to suit it only to then start the season slowly. The question is though is that a case of the tactic or squad build not working out or is it a built in feature to the game that means it takes time for players to gel and understand a new tactic?
    There are clues in the game that say this may be a fact as we see messages in the match reports saying the team was unfamiliar with the tactic or in a players profile like this one.

    Then on the other hand we see these messages but the team start on fire including the players who are adjusting to life at a new club or new tactic. So how much do these messages effect a teams results compared to the tactic perhaps not being perfect or the squad not suiting the tactic as much as you thought it would?
    So myth or fact.
     
    Certain Tactics Work for Big Teams and Others are Better in LLM
    Logic suggests that certain tactics are going to work better with big teams with top players whilst if your players aren’t as good you will need to adjust your tactics and I don’t think that is a myth at all just common sense. The question is whether it’s a myth that you can’t use the same tactics in the lower leagues that you can with a big team. 
    A good tactic can make average players better but in turn good players can make a tactic work. That means if you can build a squad that suits a tactic then in theory that tactic will work at any level of football. As an example you may want to try and play short passing football in League 2 so you need to make sure that you have players that can pass well but of course in League 2 players the number for there passing attribute isn’t going to be as high. In League 2 though a passing attribute of 12 would see a player do very well in that department of the game so if you can build a good squad of players what is there to say you can’t play play passing football in the lower leagues. 
    What is your experience though can you get a tactic that works a dream with a top team to work down in the lower leagues?
    There we have it, that is the five potential myths that I want you as a community to either say is a fact or a myth in the poll below. I would love to hear your opinions and experiences on these so let me know in the comments below your reasons for answering as you did.
    Thanks for reading and all comments are appreciated.
     
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    Foxy got a reaction from Ian in FMM Mythbusters   
    Any game that has been around as long as Football Manager Mobile will begin to develop common myths around what we can expect in a save. In this article I want to put 5 FMM myths to you the community and it is your job to decide whether they are FMM myth or fact.
    We all have ideas about what works or to expect when we are playing FMM. Over the years these ideas will become a habit whether it be the type of backroom team we build or our expectations in the first season as we build our squad and look to get a tactic to work. The question is are these actually myths that we have created in our heads and that has spread around the community over the years or are actually fact.
    So take a look at these 5 potential myths and then have your say in the poll at the end of the article and in the comments below.
     
    Strikers With High Teamwork Score Less Goals
    We all love a goal scorer, they are the players that make both real football exciting but especially FMM as they bang in the goals that lead your team to glory. One of the most popular challenges here on Vibe is the 1000 goal challenge where you look to emulate the career of Pelé and get a player to score 1000 career goals.
    Over the years many have attempted and completed this challenge but it isn’t always as simple as it is made to look. When people look for advice on the challenge one piece of wisdom that is offered is to not use a striker with Teamwork that is too high as it is felt that will make the striker less selfish and more likely to pass instead of shoot himself. 
    When you think about it then it makes sense, higher teamwork = the player working more for the team than for himself leading to him setting up more goals and less likely to look for glory himself. I’m not so sure as many of the attributes we see in the game are a combination of the players attributes in full fat FM’s database. Teamwork is one of those attributes as it is a combination of at least two attributes, work rate and teamwork. I would say that the harder a player works the more likely he is to get into goalscoring positions and that is something I have found as I have completed two 1kc’s with high teamwork players. That is simply my experience though and perhaps Arp and Mitrovic would have completed the 1k quicker and score more in total if they had lower teamwork.
    So myth or fact?
     
    Player Traits Make a Difference to How a Player Performs
    If you go onto a players profile and scroll to the third page you get to there positions page which also contains that players traits and whether they suit a certain role or not.

    If a trait is written in green that it should benefit the role you have selected and if it’s in red then it conflicts with the role, white text is neutral. The question is do these traits actually make the player do or not do what they say and will they effect how well a player performs a certain role?
    Personally I pay no attention to these traits and I have never signed a player based on them or vice versa. I solely look at a players attributes and decide whether they suit the role that I want them to play in my tactic but perhaps that is wrong and maybe I should be looking deeper into these traits and it may make a difference in how well my signings fit into my team. I’m not 100% sure that the player traits make any difference to what a player actually does on the pitch in the game but you may feel differently and put a lot of faith in them.
    So myth or fact?
     
    AI learns your tactics
    This is a very common one, someone’s tactic will be working well for half a season or maybe in season one but then the results will start to decline. The common wisdom is that this is the AI learning your tactic and then combatting it with there own but is this correct. This is probably giving the AI more credit than it deserves and it is a myth that even SI staff themselves have debunked.
    Although it is based on the PC game this article on FMScout is worth a read but I will take an important section from it. 
    https://www.fmscout.com/a-can-the-football-manager-ai-figure-out-your-tactic.html
    This is what SI employee Neil Brock had to say on the subject of of whether the AI can learn an individual tactic.
    The AI does not work out tactics. What can sometimes change tactically is that AI teams depending on your own club's league table position and form, will look at you differently.
    For instance, if you're say a team like say Bournemouth in the Premier League, a large number of teams, certainly in the top 8 will look at them and consider their own team to be stronger. Because of this they're likely to play attacking formations. Mid-table sides likewise will realise they're stronger on paper and again will attack, but may take a slightly more cautious approach when they're the away team. Lower ranked Premier teams will likely play a balanced formation home and away.
    Then let's say by January in your first season, Bournemouth are 5th in the table and have won impressive victories. The AI managers will look at this and realise you shouldn't be underestimated. Teams will be more likely to play a defensive counter based style when coming to play at Bournemouth and be more balanced overall.
    Mid and certainly lower sides in the table will play defensively. This means a tactic you had working fine for the entire system is suddenly playing against totally different tactics than in the first half of the season. Many human managers assume that if their tactic is working there's never a need to change it, but fail to take into account the fact the AI will adapt as the season goes on. Tactics however, as said above are not individually worked out.
    So the big thing to take from this is that you need to either make small tweaks to the tactic but more importantly I think for FMM is that you need to keep improving the squad each transfer window if you can as the better your team and especially the depth of your squad the more likely your tactic is to remain effective.
    So myth or fact.
    The Squad Take Time To Gel and Learn a New Tactic
    We have all been there, we come up with a new tactic and then make wholesale changes to the squad to suit it only to then start the season slowly. The question is though is that a case of the tactic or squad build not working out or is it a built in feature to the game that means it takes time for players to gel and understand a new tactic?
    There are clues in the game that say this may be a fact as we see messages in the match reports saying the team was unfamiliar with the tactic or in a players profile like this one.

    Then on the other hand we see these messages but the team start on fire including the players who are adjusting to life at a new club or new tactic. So how much do these messages effect a teams results compared to the tactic perhaps not being perfect or the squad not suiting the tactic as much as you thought it would?
    So myth or fact.
     
    Certain Tactics Work for Big Teams and Others are Better in LLM
    Logic suggests that certain tactics are going to work better with big teams with top players whilst if your players aren’t as good you will need to adjust your tactics and I don’t think that is a myth at all just common sense. The question is whether it’s a myth that you can’t use the same tactics in the lower leagues that you can with a big team. 
    A good tactic can make average players better but in turn good players can make a tactic work. That means if you can build a squad that suits a tactic then in theory that tactic will work at any level of football. As an example you may want to try and play short passing football in League 2 so you need to make sure that you have players that can pass well but of course in League 2 players the number for there passing attribute isn’t going to be as high. In League 2 though a passing attribute of 12 would see a player do very well in that department of the game so if you can build a good squad of players what is there to say you can’t play play passing football in the lower leagues. 
    What is your experience though can you get a tactic that works a dream with a top team to work down in the lower leagues?
    There we have it, that is the five potential myths that I want you as a community to either say is a fact or a myth in the poll below. I would love to hear your opinions and experiences on these so let me know in the comments below your reasons for answering as you did.
    Thanks for reading and all comments are appreciated.
     
  10. Favourite
    Foxy got a reaction from Ian in FMM Mythbusters   
    Any game that has been around as long as Football Manager Mobile will begin to develop common myths around what we can expect in a save. In this article I want to put 5 FMM myths to you the community and it is your job to decide whether they are FMM myth or fact.
    We all have ideas about what works or to expect when we are playing FMM. Over the years these ideas will become a habit whether it be the type of backroom team we build or our expectations in the first season as we build our squad and look to get a tactic to work. The question is are these actually myths that we have created in our heads and that has spread around the community over the years or are actually fact.
    So take a look at these 5 potential myths and then have your say in the poll at the end of the article and in the comments below.
     
    Strikers With High Teamwork Score Less Goals
    We all love a goal scorer, they are the players that make both real football exciting but especially FMM as they bang in the goals that lead your team to glory. One of the most popular challenges here on Vibe is the 1000 goal challenge where you look to emulate the career of Pelé and get a player to score 1000 career goals.
    Over the years many have attempted and completed this challenge but it isn’t always as simple as it is made to look. When people look for advice on the challenge one piece of wisdom that is offered is to not use a striker with Teamwork that is too high as it is felt that will make the striker less selfish and more likely to pass instead of shoot himself. 
    When you think about it then it makes sense, higher teamwork = the player working more for the team than for himself leading to him setting up more goals and less likely to look for glory himself. I’m not so sure as many of the attributes we see in the game are a combination of the players attributes in full fat FM’s database. Teamwork is one of those attributes as it is a combination of at least two attributes, work rate and teamwork. I would say that the harder a player works the more likely he is to get into goalscoring positions and that is something I have found as I have completed two 1kc’s with high teamwork players. That is simply my experience though and perhaps Arp and Mitrovic would have completed the 1k quicker and score more in total if they had lower teamwork.
    So myth or fact?
     
    Player Traits Make a Difference to How a Player Performs
    If you go onto a players profile and scroll to the third page you get to there positions page which also contains that players traits and whether they suit a certain role or not.

    If a trait is written in green that it should benefit the role you have selected and if it’s in red then it conflicts with the role, white text is neutral. The question is do these traits actually make the player do or not do what they say and will they effect how well a player performs a certain role?
    Personally I pay no attention to these traits and I have never signed a player based on them or vice versa. I solely look at a players attributes and decide whether they suit the role that I want them to play in my tactic but perhaps that is wrong and maybe I should be looking deeper into these traits and it may make a difference in how well my signings fit into my team. I’m not 100% sure that the player traits make any difference to what a player actually does on the pitch in the game but you may feel differently and put a lot of faith in them.
    So myth or fact?
     
    AI learns your tactics
    This is a very common one, someone’s tactic will be working well for half a season or maybe in season one but then the results will start to decline. The common wisdom is that this is the AI learning your tactic and then combatting it with there own but is this correct. This is probably giving the AI more credit than it deserves and it is a myth that even SI staff themselves have debunked.
    Although it is based on the PC game this article on FMScout is worth a read but I will take an important section from it. 
    https://www.fmscout.com/a-can-the-football-manager-ai-figure-out-your-tactic.html
    This is what SI employee Neil Brock had to say on the subject of of whether the AI can learn an individual tactic.
    The AI does not work out tactics. What can sometimes change tactically is that AI teams depending on your own club's league table position and form, will look at you differently.
    For instance, if you're say a team like say Bournemouth in the Premier League, a large number of teams, certainly in the top 8 will look at them and consider their own team to be stronger. Because of this they're likely to play attacking formations. Mid-table sides likewise will realise they're stronger on paper and again will attack, but may take a slightly more cautious approach when they're the away team. Lower ranked Premier teams will likely play a balanced formation home and away.
    Then let's say by January in your first season, Bournemouth are 5th in the table and have won impressive victories. The AI managers will look at this and realise you shouldn't be underestimated. Teams will be more likely to play a defensive counter based style when coming to play at Bournemouth and be more balanced overall.
    Mid and certainly lower sides in the table will play defensively. This means a tactic you had working fine for the entire system is suddenly playing against totally different tactics than in the first half of the season. Many human managers assume that if their tactic is working there's never a need to change it, but fail to take into account the fact the AI will adapt as the season goes on. Tactics however, as said above are not individually worked out.
    So the big thing to take from this is that you need to either make small tweaks to the tactic but more importantly I think for FMM is that you need to keep improving the squad each transfer window if you can as the better your team and especially the depth of your squad the more likely your tactic is to remain effective.
    So myth or fact.
    The Squad Take Time To Gel and Learn a New Tactic
    We have all been there, we come up with a new tactic and then make wholesale changes to the squad to suit it only to then start the season slowly. The question is though is that a case of the tactic or squad build not working out or is it a built in feature to the game that means it takes time for players to gel and understand a new tactic?
    There are clues in the game that say this may be a fact as we see messages in the match reports saying the team was unfamiliar with the tactic or in a players profile like this one.

    Then on the other hand we see these messages but the team start on fire including the players who are adjusting to life at a new club or new tactic. So how much do these messages effect a teams results compared to the tactic perhaps not being perfect or the squad not suiting the tactic as much as you thought it would?
    So myth or fact.
     
    Certain Tactics Work for Big Teams and Others are Better in LLM
    Logic suggests that certain tactics are going to work better with big teams with top players whilst if your players aren’t as good you will need to adjust your tactics and I don’t think that is a myth at all just common sense. The question is whether it’s a myth that you can’t use the same tactics in the lower leagues that you can with a big team. 
    A good tactic can make average players better but in turn good players can make a tactic work. That means if you can build a squad that suits a tactic then in theory that tactic will work at any level of football. As an example you may want to try and play short passing football in League 2 so you need to make sure that you have players that can pass well but of course in League 2 players the number for there passing attribute isn’t going to be as high. In League 2 though a passing attribute of 12 would see a player do very well in that department of the game so if you can build a good squad of players what is there to say you can’t play play passing football in the lower leagues. 
    What is your experience though can you get a tactic that works a dream with a top team to work down in the lower leagues?
    There we have it, that is the five potential myths that I want you as a community to either say is a fact or a myth in the poll below. I would love to hear your opinions and experiences on these so let me know in the comments below your reasons for answering as you did.
    Thanks for reading and all comments are appreciated.
     
  11. Funny
    Foxy reacted to Ian in Ian - The Terrifying Trio - Season 5   
    Thanks, yeah I’m happy enough with it at this stage as getting them onto the pitch for lots of minutes is proving difficult for fitness reasons.
    Thanks, just plodding through the youth stage at the moment. 
    Cheers, I’m hopeful of hitting the target and these returns are ok at this stage but I’ll need to get the 100+ goal seasons at some point.
  12. Shocked
    Foxy got a reaction from Ian in Gateshead in Europe: Group Stage Climax!   
    Quite the ending to the group stage in fact I nearly “climaxed” reading it.
  13. Shocked
    Foxy got a reaction from Ian in Gateshead in Europe: Group Stage Climax!   
    Quite the ending to the group stage in fact I nearly “climaxed” reading it.
  14. Shocked
    Foxy got a reaction from Ian in Gateshead in Europe: Group Stage Climax!   
    Quite the ending to the group stage in fact I nearly “climaxed” reading it.
  15. Favourite
    Foxy got a reaction from Titjes in Double the Foxes, Double the Trouble: Season 2   
    A Foxy and Son DT: Season 2
     We had a good start in season 1 as the pair scored 98 goals for club and country in what was my 15th season in charge at Barcelona. As I said in the previous update I looked for a new job in the summer between season 15 and 16 to refresh the save and build a new team at a new club.
    A couple of jobs took my fancy with Lyon manager insecure which might have been fun as they have a good squad having just lost the CL final to my Barca team but they never actually got shot of there manager. Foxy Jr and Adams weren’t going to come cheap so I needed a big or rich team to join and three options in the Premier League showed up. The first was Everton who have some good players but whether they could attract and afford my duo without selling there best assists was a sticking point. Then both Manchester clubs showed up as well and I decided that the blue side of the city was the lesser of two evils and so this journey continues at....

    Ok so I’m not exactly challenging myself with this move but this is my relaxed summer save and most clubs couldn’t have afforded the duo anyway.
    I left Barca with 15 league titles and 64 cups including 15 CL titles.
    Transfers
    Man City won the title the previous season but that didn’t stop me ripping up most of the squad and rebuilding it to hopefully get my tactic working straight away. I did nearly mess up though as I sold both my RB and LB in the squad and nearly forgot to replace them so with no budget left I had to swiftly loan in two youngsters who are luckily decent.
    Foxy Jr and Adams didn’t come cheap as they set me back a combined £212m to prise them away from Barcelona which in turn made me do more business so that I could raise the funds to improve the squad how I wanted to.
    Outs
    In’s
    Competitions
    On the pitch the team hit the ground running but we a clean sweep in the first season as Arsenal did us in the League Cup final although we beat them in two other finals.
    I left it late in the summer in get the screenshots and for some reason I couldn’t get in too the actual matches for some games.
    England
    We had the World Cup this summer.
    We won the International League last summer but the England team have never really clicked with my tactic so I didn’t have high hopes going into this competition. It was a good job as well as we cruised through an easy group of Nigeria and Japan and then beat Algeria in the 2nd round before meeting Spain in the 3rd round.
    In a ding dong battle we went to pens and in true English style we got beat.
    Unfortunately Connor Adams missed the World Cup with an injury meaning I pushed one of the strikers wide right into the FR position in the hope they wouldn’t steal too many goals from Foxy Jr.

    That left Foxy Jr as the main man and he stepped up to the plate with 6 goals in 4 games and finished the tournament with the Golden Boot.

    The Duo
    Lots of trophies and wins but how did that translate into goals for my duo?
    Both players are developing very nicely with Foxy Jr showing the most impressive improvements. He is still lacking in stamina though which really hampers his game time and that is reflected in the goal totals of both lads with Adams playing far more minutes.
    Foxy Jr
    Connor Adams
    They scored a total of 128 goals between them which really exceeded my expectations as that was what I thought we would be getting at there peak. We now need less than a 1000 goals for the DT and at least with Adams a possible 1k as well. It looks hard for Foxy Jr to get a 1k as well but there is still time and he is more of a priority for me than Adams.
    It’s just all shame that Adams missed the WC as he may have got p those extra goals for it to be a 130+ season.

    That’s the standard very much set in this save now and anything below 120 will be a huge failure unless there is an injury and I will be hoping we can add some more on to this season and get some 150 goal seasons soon.
    Thanks for reading and all comments are appreciated.
     
  16. Favourite
    Foxy got a reaction from Titjes in Double the Foxes, Double the Trouble: Season 2   
    A Foxy and Son DT: Season 2
     We had a good start in season 1 as the pair scored 98 goals for club and country in what was my 15th season in charge at Barcelona. As I said in the previous update I looked for a new job in the summer between season 15 and 16 to refresh the save and build a new team at a new club.
    A couple of jobs took my fancy with Lyon manager insecure which might have been fun as they have a good squad having just lost the CL final to my Barca team but they never actually got shot of there manager. Foxy Jr and Adams weren’t going to come cheap so I needed a big or rich team to join and three options in the Premier League showed up. The first was Everton who have some good players but whether they could attract and afford my duo without selling there best assists was a sticking point. Then both Manchester clubs showed up as well and I decided that the blue side of the city was the lesser of two evils and so this journey continues at....

    Ok so I’m not exactly challenging myself with this move but this is my relaxed summer save and most clubs couldn’t have afforded the duo anyway.
    I left Barca with 15 league titles and 64 cups including 15 CL titles.
    Transfers
    Man City won the title the previous season but that didn’t stop me ripping up most of the squad and rebuilding it to hopefully get my tactic working straight away. I did nearly mess up though as I sold both my RB and LB in the squad and nearly forgot to replace them so with no budget left I had to swiftly loan in two youngsters who are luckily decent.
    Foxy Jr and Adams didn’t come cheap as they set me back a combined £212m to prise them away from Barcelona which in turn made me do more business so that I could raise the funds to improve the squad how I wanted to.
    Outs
    In’s
    Competitions
    On the pitch the team hit the ground running but we a clean sweep in the first season as Arsenal did us in the League Cup final although we beat them in two other finals.
    I left it late in the summer in get the screenshots and for some reason I couldn’t get in too the actual matches for some games.
    England
    We had the World Cup this summer.
    We won the International League last summer but the England team have never really clicked with my tactic so I didn’t have high hopes going into this competition. It was a good job as well as we cruised through an easy group of Nigeria and Japan and then beat Algeria in the 2nd round before meeting Spain in the 3rd round.
    In a ding dong battle we went to pens and in true English style we got beat.
    Unfortunately Connor Adams missed the World Cup with an injury meaning I pushed one of the strikers wide right into the FR position in the hope they wouldn’t steal too many goals from Foxy Jr.

    That left Foxy Jr as the main man and he stepped up to the plate with 6 goals in 4 games and finished the tournament with the Golden Boot.

    The Duo
    Lots of trophies and wins but how did that translate into goals for my duo?
    Both players are developing very nicely with Foxy Jr showing the most impressive improvements. He is still lacking in stamina though which really hampers his game time and that is reflected in the goal totals of both lads with Adams playing far more minutes.
    Foxy Jr
    Connor Adams
    They scored a total of 128 goals between them which really exceeded my expectations as that was what I thought we would be getting at there peak. We now need less than a 1000 goals for the DT and at least with Adams a possible 1k as well. It looks hard for Foxy Jr to get a 1k as well but there is still time and he is more of a priority for me than Adams.
    It’s just all shame that Adams missed the WC as he may have got p those extra goals for it to be a 130+ season.

    That’s the standard very much set in this save now and anything below 120 will be a huge failure unless there is an injury and I will be hoping we can add some more on to this season and get some 150 goal seasons soon.
    Thanks for reading and all comments are appreciated.
     
  17. Funny
    Foxy reacted to Rob in Chazza’s 3rd attempt at a TT   
    Cos it’ll mean you have gotten to at least season five without quitting! 
  18. Happy
    Foxy reacted to Ashez in Double the Foxes, Double the Trouble: Season 2   
    Solid start that @Foxy, if they're already getting close to triple digits I'm excited to see how far they can go! 
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    Foxy got a reaction from Gandalf in Double the Foxes, Double the Trouble: Season 2   
    A Foxy and Son DT: Season 1
    Back in late winter and spring despite the constant updates from SI moving the goalposts I completed a 1kc with Alexsandar Mitrovic which can be found here.
    After 14 seasons Mitro hung up his boots and rode off into the sunset to enjoy his retirement. That then unlocked my son regen so let me introduce you to Tyler Fox.

    As soon as I saw him I knew I wanted to give a son challenge a go but I wasn’t sure what I actually wanted to do except I didn’t want to do another 1kc. I did consider the 200 goal international challenge as I had managed to get the England job but in the end the motivation wasn’t there to continue the save after 14 years. I saved a back up on iCloud and then forgot about it for a couple of months.
    That motivation is back and I have decided to go for a Double Trouble. The premise of the challenge is simple. Two strikers with the goal of scoring 1200 career goals between them. That means that the digital Foxy Jr needs a partner.
    No prizes for guessing who this guy is a regen of. I’m not sure how well Foxy Jr will develop so I decided he needed some real quality alongside him so here is that quality in the shape of Connor Adams who joined from Leeds for £30m. He already had 45 goals for club and country when he joined which is very promising for an 18 year old.

    My plan was to move on from Barca taking Foxy Jr with me and then signing Adams but no jobs came up that I liked the look of so I will either do a season at Barca which will be my 15th with them and then move on or I will stick with Barca for the duration. Moving on definitely appeals to me as I can then build a new team around these lads at a new club but time will tell on that.
    In the meantime this is the goals of the save.
    Complete the DT It would be great to get at least one of these lads (preferably Foxy Jr) to 1k but that depends if I can get a tactic that really works well. Complete 30 seasons in a save for the first time ever. Season 1
    The squad at Barca was pretty well set so it was just an adjustment of the tactic and I added a few new players to suit that.
    Of course being season 15 they are all regens.
    The biggest question mark for me was how well Foxy Jr would develop. He started the season very slowly as he was well below the ability required to play in this team but as he got better the goals started to come.
    He grew his attributes well over the season especially his aerial, shooting and movement but I don’t tgink he is ever going to have great pace or stamina so he will need to have his game time managed closely if that’s the case.

    Adams developed as expected and is looking quality.

    Competitions
    We didn’t quite win the clean sweep this season as we lost the opening game of the season in the European Super Cup as I was trying to bed in the tactic. It wasn’t a bad year on the whole though.
    England
    England duty was all about qualifying for the Nations League finals which we did and then made the final against Holland.
    It’s the World Cup at the end of next season as well so qualifying has started for that. We have some work to do but with games in hand I’m not too worried.
    Foxy Jr and Adams
    As Foxy Jr develops Adams is always going to be the main man for goals and that proved to be the case this season as well. Adams did have a couple of injuries though and I hope that isn’t a sign of things to come although the physios aren’t worried.
    In the end it was a hugely positive season as they hit a combined 98 goals between them. Foxy Jr started slowly but after Xmas he hit his stride and was banging a lot more in at least for Barca if not England.
    Foxy Jr: 33gls
    Adams: 65gls
    Total: 98 goals

    This was the perfect start although if I want a 1k from Foxy Jr he needs to really up his goal numbers as he will need at least double this seasons total of 33 to stand a chance. 
    I will be actively pursuing a new job this summer though so hopefully a club with the resources to buy the guys will need a manager as I feel a new club will freshen the save up a bit more for me. I have Spain, England, France and Germany loaded so plenty of options although I won’t stay in Spain and England would be my preferred destination.
    One Final Bit of Business
    In my Mitro save Javairo Dilrosun was my main assister after the first few seasons and got me an entry on the assists challenge leaderboard. He had planned to retire at the end of this season but I convinced him to continue but unfortunately he wouldn’t resign for Barca and I never got a new job before he had moved to Leipzig. I could buy him back I guess but I think I will let him play out his career as he sees fit.
    He had 21 assists this season which was brilliant as he was more of a back up now his pace has gone and he finishes his career with me on 358 assists so I can update the leaderboard.

    Thanks for reading and all comments are appreciated.
  20. Funny
    Foxy got a reaction from Mr Tree in Double the Foxes, Double the Trouble: Season 2   
    Go for it and post it as if it’s interesting and unconventional then it’s already one step ahead of mine.
  21. Happy
    Foxy reacted to Rob in Double the Foxes, Double the Trouble: Season 2   
    Great idea do best of luck.
  22. Happy
    Foxy reacted to Nucleus in Double the Foxes, Double the Trouble: Season 2   
    Nice to see a DT attempt again  
    Your son doesn’t look half bad tbf! Plenty of drama in this one I’m hoping 😛 Good luck 
  23. Happy
    Foxy reacted to smoggy90 in Double the Foxes, Double the Trouble: Season 2   
    Great idea mate and best of luck. These two should give that motivation to complete the 30 seasons and get you plenty of goals!
  24. Shocked
    Foxy reacted to samhardy in Double the Foxes, Double the Trouble: Season 2   
    This looks like it could be mildly entertaining.
  25. Favourite
    Foxy got a reaction from Gandalf in Double the Foxes, Double the Trouble: Season 2   
    A Foxy and Son DT: Season 1
    Back in late winter and spring despite the constant updates from SI moving the goalposts I completed a 1kc with Alexsandar Mitrovic which can be found here.
    After 14 seasons Mitro hung up his boots and rode off into the sunset to enjoy his retirement. That then unlocked my son regen so let me introduce you to Tyler Fox.

    As soon as I saw him I knew I wanted to give a son challenge a go but I wasn’t sure what I actually wanted to do except I didn’t want to do another 1kc. I did consider the 200 goal international challenge as I had managed to get the England job but in the end the motivation wasn’t there to continue the save after 14 years. I saved a back up on iCloud and then forgot about it for a couple of months.
    That motivation is back and I have decided to go for a Double Trouble. The premise of the challenge is simple. Two strikers with the goal of scoring 1200 career goals between them. That means that the digital Foxy Jr needs a partner.
    No prizes for guessing who this guy is a regen of. I’m not sure how well Foxy Jr will develop so I decided he needed some real quality alongside him so here is that quality in the shape of Connor Adams who joined from Leeds for £30m. He already had 45 goals for club and country when he joined which is very promising for an 18 year old.

    My plan was to move on from Barca taking Foxy Jr with me and then signing Adams but no jobs came up that I liked the look of so I will either do a season at Barca which will be my 15th with them and then move on or I will stick with Barca for the duration. Moving on definitely appeals to me as I can then build a new team around these lads at a new club but time will tell on that.
    In the meantime this is the goals of the save.
    Complete the DT It would be great to get at least one of these lads (preferably Foxy Jr) to 1k but that depends if I can get a tactic that really works well. Complete 30 seasons in a save for the first time ever. Season 1
    The squad at Barca was pretty well set so it was just an adjustment of the tactic and I added a few new players to suit that.
    Of course being season 15 they are all regens.
    The biggest question mark for me was how well Foxy Jr would develop. He started the season very slowly as he was well below the ability required to play in this team but as he got better the goals started to come.
    He grew his attributes well over the season especially his aerial, shooting and movement but I don’t tgink he is ever going to have great pace or stamina so he will need to have his game time managed closely if that’s the case.

    Adams developed as expected and is looking quality.

    Competitions
    We didn’t quite win the clean sweep this season as we lost the opening game of the season in the European Super Cup as I was trying to bed in the tactic. It wasn’t a bad year on the whole though.
    England
    England duty was all about qualifying for the Nations League finals which we did and then made the final against Holland.
    It’s the World Cup at the end of next season as well so qualifying has started for that. We have some work to do but with games in hand I’m not too worried.
    Foxy Jr and Adams
    As Foxy Jr develops Adams is always going to be the main man for goals and that proved to be the case this season as well. Adams did have a couple of injuries though and I hope that isn’t a sign of things to come although the physios aren’t worried.
    In the end it was a hugely positive season as they hit a combined 98 goals between them. Foxy Jr started slowly but after Xmas he hit his stride and was banging a lot more in at least for Barca if not England.
    Foxy Jr: 33gls
    Adams: 65gls
    Total: 98 goals

    This was the perfect start although if I want a 1k from Foxy Jr he needs to really up his goal numbers as he will need at least double this seasons total of 33 to stand a chance. 
    I will be actively pursuing a new job this summer though so hopefully a club with the resources to buy the guys will need a manager as I feel a new club will freshen the save up a bit more for me. I have Spain, England, France and Germany loaded so plenty of options although I won’t stay in Spain and England would be my preferred destination.
    One Final Bit of Business
    In my Mitro save Javairo Dilrosun was my main assister after the first few seasons and got me an entry on the assists challenge leaderboard. He had planned to retire at the end of this season but I convinced him to continue but unfortunately he wouldn’t resign for Barca and I never got a new job before he had moved to Leipzig. I could buy him back I guess but I think I will let him play out his career as he sees fit.
    He had 21 assists this season which was brilliant as he was more of a back up now his pace has gone and he finishes his career with me on 358 assists so I can update the leaderboard.

    Thanks for reading and all comments are appreciated.
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