AM24 - Assistant Manager for FMM24 (Android) 1.0.6

March 4

NOW FIXED SO SHORTLIST EXPORTS WORK WITH VERSION 15.2.0 OF FMM24 (WINTER VERSION)

This is a scouting app for FMM24 (Android), letting you:

See the CA, PA, hidden attributes, etc for any player.
Search for players by many parameters (CA, PA, Age, position, foot, name, club, some hidden attributes, etc).
Export the current view of players to a FMM shortlist so you can import them into your FMM shortlist.

NOTES:

This will only work with FMM24, it will NOT work with FMM23 or FMM25 (when it comes).
It is only available for Android.
There are some very significant changes to where save files are stored in FMM24 which have a major impact on AM24, so please read the Changes In FMM24 section below (tldr: you must export your saves in FMM24 before AM24 can see them).
I am still working towards a complete rewrite and getting this onto Google Play and when I do so it will not be free.
I am releasing this here for free in the meantime because it will probably take significant time to complete the rewrite etc.
There are some known bugs such as languages and favourite clubs not working. These are unlikely to be fixed before the rewrite.
If you have used the In Game Editor (ie there is a yellow Edit button showing), AM24 will not be able to read the save file and it will not open.

Installation / Opening A Save File

You will need to allow APKs to be installed from sources other than Google Play.
When you open the APK file downloaded from this page, you will also be prompted to allow installation from this source.
When you open the app for the first time, you will have to press Find Save Folder to find the careers/saves folder.
Android will then prompt you for permission to access files, storage etc.
You then need to find the folder with the various Exported careers in it. Note: you must have exported your careers first, as discussed in the Changes in FMM24 section below.
Once you have found this folder, you will need to open the career folder with the exported save files (eg export_Newcastle).
Note: you will not actually see the save files in this view, it only shows folders.
Once the exported save folder has been opened, press the "Choose Folder" button in the top right.
It should then show you any save files in that folder (Save 1, Save 2, Save 3).
If these buttons are greyed out, then it did not find any save files in this folder - please press the Change Career Folder button and try again.

Note: To change saves within a career, choose the Open Folder icon, then choose the save you wish to open. To change careers, choose the Open Folder icon, then press Change Career Folder, find the folder you want and press Choose Folder in the top right.

Changes in FMM24

There were some major changes to the way that save files are stored in FMM24 and it limits what AM24 can do.

Save files are now saved in a hidden storage area that other apps, like AM24, cannot access. This means AM24 cannot directly access the save files. Instead you need to export them from FMM24. The first time you do this, FMM will ask you where to store these - this is the folder you need to find in the installations instructions above.

Unfortunately this means you cannot open the save file in AM24 directly, play on (and save) in FMM24, then use the refresh button in AM24 to see the latest data. You will need to export the career every time you want to get an updated view of the save file. Even more unfortunately the export process is very cumbersome. You need to:

Choose Save Game in FMM
Exit the save, back to the main FMM screen
Press Load Game
Select the career you want to export
Press Export
Give the export a name (yes every time) - it makes sense to use the same name each time so you can just refresh in AM24
Press Export
Press OK, then Cancel
Go to AM24 and press the refresh button

This needs to be done before using AM24 for the first time and again every time you want to see the latest save.

Exporting shortlists from AM24 and loading them into FMM is very messy. Please see the details in this comment below for an explanation.

Loading Save Files That Have Been Edited

Save files that have been edited with the In Game Editor will sometimes not load in AM24. This is due to the save file being reordered and AM24 being unable to find the Manager's last name, which is needed to load the file.

As a workaround, please create a text file called `lastname.txt` that contains just the Manager's surname and copy it into the same folder as the save file. For example if the Manager's surname was Cronin, you would create a file like this: lastname.txt

Note: This is just a temporary solution. I'll find a better solution when I rewrite the app (at the very minimum I will make it a setting rather than the needing a text file which is pretty lame!).

Overview

Here's an overview of the app from several years ago. It is mostly the same, except for the part about opening the saves, which has changed as mentioned above:

Spoiler

Also, here is a new video looking at how to export saves from FMM24 so you can access them in AM24 and how to import shortlists created by AM24 into FMM24:

Spoiler

Support, etc

The app shouldn't cause any problems, but it is an "use at your own risk" app.

If you find any problems with the app, feel free to post them below BUT a) I don't have much time to spend on this now and b) I had to downgrade my development environment to release the app and I need to update it again soon (and won't be able to make any changes after that). So... there may be little to no support this year.

There will only be an Android version in the short term. Longer term I'd like to be able to do an iOS version, or at least a web version if that's not possible, but don't hold your breath!

Have fun!

Though remember using this app is against the rules of the challenges here on Vibe if you're doing one of them.

al.bejbe · February 1

Struggling to open save file due editor usage. (I know, my bad)

Any chance that someone nice and kind share top 20 Japanese nationality player with highest potential ability. (Playing save with Nara and just curious to know the top of the crop)

Cheers!

newspidy · February 1

15 hours ago, Scratch said:

Hmm, that's interesting, never seen that before and it seems to work for most people. Which phone are you using? I'm using Android 12 too, so it can't be that by itself, but maybe different phones might have different setup or something.

I guess maybe the download didn't work properly? Maybe try downloaded again in case the file is corrupt? Apart form that all I can think of is that your phone doesn't have the "load files from sources other than Google Play" setting turned on, but I think that would probably be a different error.

If I think of anything else I'll let you know, but my suggest is to try redownloading.

I have been using your "AM" applications since version 21, and I have never had a problem Installation from unknown sources

I have Oppo A93

I redownloaded the app twice

Always the sae probleme before installation is says "do you want to update AM24?" Although I didn't have the application before

Rus7M · February 1

3 hours ago, Scratch said:

Thanks, I never found an example for disliked club before! So you really only need the first HEX character: 01 is liked player, 02 is disliked player, 03 is liked club, 04 is disliked club. The second part does seem to be 01 for player and 03 for club, but probably isn't necessary to work out what's going on. I'll still probably use it to be safe.

Also, I think you only need the last HEX char for the level. I'm not sure what the second last char is, but if you just look at the last one for the first 4 entries in the screenshot, you will get favourite levels of 50, 60, 90, 90, which seems more likely to be the level than 12800, 15367, etc.

From memory, the liked/disliked clubs use the ID/record number rather than the UID. Same thing for players. The UID is unique and is the same as on sortitoutsi etc, but the ID/record number is just the record number for the club/player in that save. If the database has 60K clubs (for eg, I'm making the numbers up), then maybe a particular save only has 40K clubs loaded, so the record number will depend on which nations have been loaded and which clubs/players are included etc. So for eg Liverpool was the 478th club loaded in that save.

It's not stored in the DB, it's all generated at load time. Actually the field IS in the DB, but it's empty. Eg, here is the DB entry for Liverpool:

And here is the save file entry:

As you can see, when the save file was created it's replaced FF FF FF FF with 90 01 00 00. So they are the 400th club in that particular save. Or actually 401st as it will be 0 based.

Same thing happens for players.

I analyzed the people_dat file completely, used scripts to pull out all possible variants and wrote them in a separate file.

So, the first character is 1 (as you said, it's favorite player), 2 (disliked player), 3 (favorite club), 4 (disliked club) and... Attention! 49! Yes yes, there are only 5 choices: 1, 2, 3, 4 и 49! The value 49 always has the second character "1" (i.e. it is a person), then comes the ID, but the other two values are always empty - 00. (For example, this is the meaning of 104316-Dragan Stojković)

The second character only comes in 1 and 3. It does not come in 2, 4 and so on.

And about the penultimate character. It does go from 0 to 10. Mostly it is 0, 1, 2 or 5 (my script gave the value "0" in about 6,000 cases, the value "1" came out about 15,000 times, and "2" came out about 20,000, and the value "5" about 10,000 times). The others (0, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) have about 2000-3000 results, but they are still used.

Edited February 1 by Rus7M

lnqn88 · February 1

I start using AM since 2023 ver and it worked flawlessly with save that editor is used.

I think you'll find a solution soon.

I'm 100% sure will buy your Google Play ver asap. There's a free scouting app writen by a Chinese guy but AM filter abilities is far more details besides the shortlist exporting that the Chinese app can not.

Scratch · February 1

7 hours ago, newspidy said:

I have been using your "AM" applications since version 21, and I have never had a problem Installation from unknown sources

I have Oppo A93

I redownloaded the app twice

Always the sae probleme before installation is says "do you want to update AM24?" Although I didn't have the application before

Ahh... That is because I updated AM23 to be AM24 instead of creating a whole new package - which means AM23 and AM24 are the same app according to Android and you can't have both. So you will need to uninstall AM23 first. If you actually want to use both you have to keep the APKs handy and then uninstall one and install the other. Annoying, but possible. I'll see if I can make a whole new package for future years.

gamkinnkristian · February 3

Fixed the first problem, turned off the editor. But now when I press "Save 1" it's gives me the message: "Loading. This may take a few seconds..." and nothing happens after that. Do you have any suggestions to what I can try? 😊

lnqn88 · February 3

Something happen. I dont know if they update the new Exporting files but now not only AM24 but also the Chinese Scout app can't load the file anymore.

Scratch · February 3

@lnqn88 @gamkinnkristian - I think I know why AM24 isn't working and I can't fix it properly at the moment (what I could do in a FMM23 file can't be done anymore), but I'm working on a super hacky workaround. We'll see how this goes, but I think I might have a way to make it work. Might need a few days to test etc

Scratch · February 4

Also... Looks like the new version of FMM24 a few days ago did something to the save game structure and broke AM24. I'm investigating it.

EDIT: To clarify, if you create a save file in version 15.1.1 it will work fine. Once you upgrade to 15.1.2 (released a couple of days ago) and save the career again, it will do something to the save file format that break AM24. So it will affect any save that has been saved in the latest version, even those created in earlier versions.

Edited February 4 by Scratch

lnqn88 · February 4

Yes, it suddenly stop working a few days recently.

Scratch · February 4

I have now released version 1.0.2 of AM24, which has the following changes:

Fixed so that it works with save files that were saved in version 15.1.2 of FMM24 (released early February 2024).
Added very hacky solution for saves that have been Edited (see the Loading Save Files That Have Been Edited section above).

Simply redownload above and install again.

Scratch · February 4

I've seen multiple cases of saves from various people where there are a few players with CA higher than PA. I went and checked the save file manually and they did indeed have CA higher than PA, which should be impossible. AM24 doesn't change the save file at all (it reads it, it doesn't write it), so this seems to be a bug in FMM...

gamkinnkristian · February 4

On 03/02/2024 at 06:58, gamkinnkristian said:

Fixed the first problem, turned off the editor. But now when I press "Save 1" it's gives me the message: "Loading. This may take a few seconds..." and nothing happens after that. Do you have any suggestions to what I can try? 😊

Looks like your latest release fixed the problem I had 😁👍

NguyenDucAnh · February 4

46 minutes ago, Scratch said:

I've seen multiple cases of saves from various people where there are a few players with CA higher than PA. I went and checked the save file manually and they did indeed have CA higher than PA, which should be impossible. AM24 doesn't change the save file at all (it reads it, it doesn't write it), so this seems to be a bug in FMM...

It was a bug that existed long ago since the day FMM24 release, I can confirm that. Happened only a few times for me

wnkerry · February 5

how can i solve this?

Scratch · February 5

29 minutes ago, wnkerry said:

how can i solve this?

I assume it's stuck? Ie doesn't come up after 20 seconds or so?

In that case, are you using the latest version (`am24-v1.0.2.apk` that I released above 15 hours ago)? If you got it before that, please try again with the new version.

If you have the new version already, have you used the editor? If so, you will need to add the manager's surname to a file called lastname.txt and copy it to the same folder as the save is in.

If it's none of that, then send me the save and I will take a look.

wnkerry · February 5

i dont use editor cuz its a fresh new game,,here ill put the save

fmm_save_1.fms

Navalends · February 5

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If you have used the In Game Editor (ie there is a yellow Edit button showing), AM24 will not be able to read the save file and it will not open.

Looks like I found my problem.

Scratch · February 5

54 minutes ago, wnkerry said:

i dont use editor cuz its a fresh new game,,here ill put the save

fmm_save_1.fms 71.08 MB · 0 downloads

It's working for me!
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Are you sure you are on the latest version of AM24? If you press the cog/settings icon in the top right, it should show you the version, eg:
image.png.6f4eaa1aa1b3eaa0bb365cf0714f2754.png

You can see I'm using 1.0.2 which should open the file. If yours says 1.0.0 then it won't work because the save file has been saved with version 15.1.2 of FMM (the new version) that changed the save file format. If that's the case, you have to download AM24 again and reinstall it etc. Let me know how you go.

Scratch · February 5

59 minutes ago, Navalends said:

Looks like I found my problem.

If yours isn't working because the files been edited, then you can upload to the new version of AM24 (1.0.2) and there is a very hacky workaround: create a text file called lastname.txt and put the manager surname (nothing else) in there and put it in the same folder as the save file.

Navalends · February 5

1 hour ago, Scratch said:

2 hours ago, Navalends said:

Looks like I found my problem.

If yours isn't working because the files been edited, then you can upload to the new version of AM24 (1.0.2) and there is a very hacky workaround: create a text file called lastname.txt and put the manager surname (nothing else) in there and put it in the same folder as the save file.

Alright I'll try.

Navalends · February 5

Eyy it works, thanks @Scratch

Scratch · February 5

3 minutes ago, Navalends said:

Eyy it works, thanks @Scratch

Great! It is a horrible way to solve the problem, but it's the best I can do right now. Glad it works. 🙂

Scratch · February 5

I created a video showing how to export saves from FMM24 so you can access them in AM24 and how to import shortlists created by AM24 into FMM24:

lnqn88 · February 5

I can't use filter to search player with less than 6 months contract.

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AM24 - Assistant Manager for FMM24 (Android) 1.0.6

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Installation / Opening A Save File

Changes in FMM24

Loading Save Files That Have Been Edited

Overview

Support, etc

What's New in Version 1.0.6

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