Tactics Brentford 2-2-1-2-3 / 4-1-2-3 Plimmerz92

[Plimmerz92]

I think I may have broken the championship quite literally I've taken brentford to premiership in style. And I've earned more money than spent. Firstly let me explain the formation and why there are 2.

2-2-1-2-3 is the main one I used If I found myself winning and the opponent was pressing me in the 60th minute of the game and was dominating i would move the LWB RWB to natural FBs so it would become a back four. And i would change the defence accordingly. 

*side notes*

I dont always use Counter! I switch depending on what CPU is using. If there on attack and medium tempo I switch to slow tempo and whatever I feel best at the time. 

Train each player on intensive it's very effective this year on fmm and train the player to that position and that style. 

So for me I had rhiad Brewster as a target man. That's where he played and that's the training regime I had him on. 

LWB RWB need to be neutral as when required to change to back four u dont want them attacking. I leave that to the Inside forwards and 3 strikers. 

1 centre midfielder I would recommend using someone with alot of stamina preferably with 15+ have good tackling teamwork and passing. Train him as Box to Box.

Whatever strikers you have weather you have 3 Target men use the positions your striker is most accomplished in. It's no good having messi as a target man if you see where I'm coming from.

I had dwight Gayle and when I brought him on I changed 1 striker position to AF as that's his most comfortable position. 

*4123*

Use this if your struggling to hold a lead.

Bring LWB RWB to a back four and use as WBs.

In game keep checking what CPU are using attack,defence,control,basic,overload.

If your winning late game go four at back using the 4123 but I manager to win most games using 2 at CB. 

Okay guys here are the tactics please try and let me know what you think I've NOT TESTED IN higher league will do the premier league with brentford and let you know. Was also offered the northern Ireland Job in the first year which I couldn't refuse as it's my place of birth

[Belhote]

17 minutes ago, Plimmerz92 said:

I think I may have broken the championship quite literally I've taken brentford to premiership in style. And I've earned more money than spent. Firstly let me explain the formation and why there are 2.

2-2-1-2-3 is the main one I used If I found myself winning and the opponent was pressing me in the 60th minute of the game and was dominating i would move the LWB RWB to natural FBs so it would become a back four. And i would change the defence accordingly. 

*side notes*

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I dont always use Counter! I switch depending on what CPU is using. If there on attack and medium tempo I switch to slow tempo and whatever I feel best at the time. 

Train each player on intensive it's very effective this year on fmm and train the player to that position and that style. 

So for me I had rhiad Brewster as a target man. That's where he played and that's the training regime I had him on. 

LWB RWB need to be neutral as when required to change to back four u dont want them attacking. I leave that to the Inside forwards and 3 strikers. 

1 centre midfielder I would recommend using someone with alot of stamina preferably with 15+ have good tackling teamwork and passing. Train him as Box to Box.

Whatever strikers you have weather you have 3 Target men use the positions your striker is most accomplished in. It's no good having messi as a target man if you see where I'm coming from.

I had dwight Gayle and when I brought him on I changed 1 striker position to AF as that's his most comfortable position. 

*4123*

Use this if your struggling to hold a lead.

Bring LWB RWB to a back four and use as WBs.

In game keep checking what CPU are using attack,defence,control,basic,overload.

If your winning late game go four at back using the 4123 but I manager to win most games using 2 at CB. 

Okay guys here are the tactics please try and let me know what you think I've NOT TESTED IN higher league will do the premier league with brentford and let you know. Was also offered the northern Ireland Job in the first year which I couldn't refuse as it's my place of birth

I will test this one later as well now for Premier will you buy new players or the squad will stay the same? Looks like as shine as the other tactic, do you wanna open a course of fmm tactics? 😉

[Plimmerz92]

1 minute ago, Belhote said:

I will test this one later as well now for Premier will you buy new players or the squad will stay the same? Looks like as shine as the other tactic, do you wanna open a course of fmm tactics? 😉

I am going to invest what little I can chairman has only give me 28m so going to have to sell loan out loan in all the fun stuff. 

[AndersJ]

I dont remember his name ( but 2-3 seasons ago he wrote about the settings the AI uses . If you hold a close eye on this, you are good to go! - so the concept is great . Its impressive whit the results as we can see many different players having 10-20 goals :D! 

Thank you for sharing :D!

[Plimmerz92]

13 minutes ago, AndersJ said:

I dont remember his name ( but 2-3 seasons ago he wrote about the settings the AI uses . If you hold a close eye on this, you are good to go! - so the concept is great . Its impressive whit the results as we can see many different players having 10-20 goals :D! 

Thank you for sharing :D!

I always check what the CPU is using I must check like 5 or 10 times in a game lol. It's how I beat them. It's how i beat PSG with my Newcastle save 4-0 i went counter score 1 then went on defensive lockdown. To force cpu to go attacking or overload then I switch back to counter get more goals not to mention Joelinton is deadly this year. 

[Plimmerz92]

Just had England offer me the job too. Lol place of birth or place of residency that's not cool man. Lol

[Belhote]

12 minutes ago, Plimmerz92 said:

Just had England offer me the job too. Lol place of birth or place of residency that's not cool man. Lol

Thats hard i would go place of birth always,but Thats me xd

[ron1hy]

9 hours ago, Plimmerz92 said:

I always check what the CPU is using I must check like 5 or 10 times in a game lol. It's how I beat them. It's how i beat PSG with my Newcastle save 4-0 i went counter score 1 then went on defensive lockdown. To force cpu to go attacking or overload then I switch back to counter get more goals not to mention Joelinton is deadly this year. 

How do I check what the CPU is using? Also, is it a case of training players to fit the role of the tactic or vise verse?

Edited December 5, 2019 by ron1hy

[Plimmerz92]

2 hours ago, ron1hy said:

How do I check what the CPU is using? Also, is it a case of training players to fit the role of the tactic or vise verse?

2 hours ago, ron1hy said:

How do I check what the CPU is using? Also, is it a case of training players to fit the role of the tactic or vise verse?

Bottom left corner there is a symbol that resembles that of a pitch only visible when  in game.

[ron1hy]

12 hours ago, Plimmerz92 said:

I think I may have broken the championship quite literally I've taken brentford to premiership in style. And I've earned more money than spent. Firstly let me explain the formation and why there are 2.

2-2-1-2-3 is the main one I used If I found myself winning and the opponent was pressing me in the 60th minute of the game and was dominating i would move the LWB RWB to natural FBs so it would become a back four. And i would change the defence accordingly. 

*side notes*

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I dont always use Counter! I switch depending on what CPU is using. If there on attack and medium tempo I switch to slow tempo and whatever I feel best at the time. 

Train each player on intensive it's very effective this year on fmm and train the player to that position and that style. 

So for me I had rhiad Brewster as a target man. That's where he played and that's the training regime I had him on. 

LWB RWB need to be neutral as when required to change to back four u dont want them attacking. I leave that to the Inside forwards and 3 strikers. 

1 centre midfielder I would recommend using someone with alot of stamina preferably with 15+ have good tackling teamwork and passing. Train him as Box to Box.

Whatever strikers you have weather you have 3 Target men use the positions your striker is most accomplished in. It's no good having messi as a target man if you see where I'm coming from.

I had dwight Gayle and when I brought him on I changed 1 striker position to AF as that's his most comfortable position. 

*4123*

Use this if your struggling to hold a lead.

Bring LWB RWB to a back four and use as WBs.

In game keep checking what CPU are using attack,defence,control,basic,overload.

If your winning late game go four at back using the 4123 but I manager to win most games using 2 at CB. 

Okay guys here are the tactics please try and let me know what you think I've NOT TESTED IN higher league will do the premier league with brentford and let you know. Was also offered the northern Ireland Job in the first year which I couldn't refuse as it's my place of birth

Ok. Thank you. So is it best to adjust the roles in the tactic to suit the players natural roles?

Edited December 5, 2019 by ron1hy

[Plimmerz92]

For the strikers mate. If u have a tall player who is only good at ariel you dont want him being poacher. So just the strikers you have to play with to suit your players.

[DutchTony]

@Plimmerz92 Forgive if I have missed it, but do you start every game on counter? 

[Plimmerz92]

1 hour ago, DutchTony said:

@Plimmerz92 Forgive if I have missed it, but do you start every game on counter? 

It varies on who I am playing cause CPU usually start on defensive. If they start defence and there a worse team I go attacking.

If there better I start on defensive when the change I go counter yes buddy. I swap slot in game it's why i win majority of my games. My Newcastle win over PSG 4-0 i started on defence held them 0-0 the cpu went balanced so i went counter scored then they went control. I went defence. Then eventually went counter. Scored 4 counter this year for me is extremely effective. But you need good passing defenders for BPD or just general CB.

[Plimmerz92]

I'm working on Manchester United now won premier league and only drawn 2 games all season so far. Need to sell pogba so i can invest in LWB RWB as full back wan bissaka and shaw are trash my goals have suffered without having wing backs 

[Plimmerz92]

1 hour ago, Plimmerz92 said:

I'm working on Manchester United now won premier league and only drawn 2 games all season so far. Need to sell pogba so i can invest in LWB RWB as full back wan bissaka and shaw are trash my goals have suffered without having wing backs 

 

[AndersJ]

5 hours ago, Plimmerz92 said:

It varies on who I am playing cause CPU usually start on defensive. If they start defence and there a worse team I go attacking.

If there better I start on defensive when the change I go counter yes buddy. I swap slot in game it's why i win majority of my games. My Newcastle win over PSG 4-0 i started on defence held them 0-0 the cpu went balanced so i went counter scored then they went control. I went defence. Then eventually went counter. Scored 4 counter this year for me is extremely effective. But you need good passing defenders for BPD or just general CB.

You should write a small detailed guide with shape pictures of "

when the CPU start like this - you do this. 

When the CPU start like this - you do this

 

when the CPU in game does this, you change to this  does it make sense?

 

some formations in other tactics overrun you, would you say its my shape i should have changed or my formation?

 

 

[Plimmerz92]

1 hour ago, AndersJ said:

You should write a small detailed guide with shape pictures of "

when the CPU start like this - you do this. 

When the CPU start like this - you do this

 

when the CPU in game does this, you change to this  does it make sense?

 

some formations in other tactics overrun you, would you say its my shape i should have changed or my formation?

 

 

I can do a guide but man it may be quicker reading the bible lol.

[ron1hy]

8 minutes ago, Plimmerz92 said:

I can do a guide but man it may be quicker reading the bible lol.

That would be really helpful and much appreciated if you could do it for us ☺

[Plimmerz92]

1 hour ago, ron1hy said:

That would be really helpful and much appreciated if you could do it for us ☺

@ron1hy

@AndersJ

Ok well the most popular formation the CPU uses on this game is either 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 CPU always starts on balanced. Points to remember.

*4-2-3-1 for example your facing Chelsea who have a dangerous team. Will look to attack you down the wing. Its key to have players able to counteract this. They have pace in willian and pulisic. And the wonderkid Mason mount spearheading the centre attacking midfield.

CPU will start on defence 100% all the time. I always match them and feel them out. If I see the CPU possession bar greater than mine for long periods of time I go to the defence tactic and use the following (deep - sit back) this way it forces the CPU to change from defence to control or attack. 

Once they change I go back to high defensive line nothing else. 

If your fortunate enough to score they CPU will switch back to defence or go onto control. It's important to not jump straight to attack as you will open up your defence and you WILL concede! Stay composed and switch back to defence. 

If you have not scored by half time start making some changes with your line up. Certain players are scared of playing against certain teams. In which you can be guarenteed they wont perform. It's around the 60th minute the CPU will start piling the pressure on depending what the score is at that time. This is where I usually switch to counter if I have not scored. The CPU always trys to win they dont aim to draw.

The cpu will make attacking changes. For example Chelsea always start giroud over abraham if giroud is fit and healthy that is. 

This is where you want to either 

1. Go on counter to try and score.

2. Go on to defence.

3.go on lock down meaning defence , deep defene line , sit back.

The best way to counter 4-2-3-1 I found is to have good passing CBS. Not BPD! And good Full backs who can also pass to the midfield. 

With facing a team like Chelsea you want to avoid Kante as much as you can players like him are key. Passing accurately between defence and midfield nullifies his ability to be a nightmare.

2

4-3-3 

Same principle really except I'll use liverpool as example here. 

If you commit your team to attack or counter to early Mo Salah or Mane will score with a matter of seconds. However the downfall to liverpool you take mane and Salah out of the equasion they lack wingers. 

If you come against 4-3-3 the wingers are the danger not the striker.

I spend majority of the game on defence when facing a big team using 4-3-3.

Again forcing them to jump to control,attacking and when they do I see how my team fares on defence.

*always pay attention to the following stats.

*your attempts on goal

*clear cut chances 

*possession (most important)

If your higher than cpu means stick with what your doing.

In my 2nd season with Newcastle in the champions league final against Paris st Germain I started on defence held the to 0-0 and forced the cpu to go more offensive. My team was adequate at best compared to PSGs frightening duo mbappe and neymar. When they changed I knew if I went to counter I'd catch them out. I switch switch in game mainly between defence and counter. Hardly go control as your players tend to  

1 pass to much and get complacent 

2 make mistakes

3 be out of position.

So the best advice I can give is stay on the ball watch the CPU closely see what there doing.

This is the best example I can give right here on below screenshots. Ignore player roles this is simply names and stats. 

Screenshot 1 usually how Chelsea line up.

CPU will go defence match the CPU and go on defence. Have your LB RB on neutral full backs.

This way forces CPU to change its strategy and go more offensive. 

Screenshot 2 when CPU switch to attack it drags there whole team forward obviously and this is crucial in getting a goal.

This is where I switch depending on how my team is faring on defence. 

When I go on counter I aim to use Wing backs linking to the attack as I use inside forwards.

3rd screenshot how I look at my team when I play counter.

4th screenshot lockdown the whole entire team sits in front of goal doesnt go forward or try to initiate a passing escape they simply clear the ball. LB RB on full back BBM change to BWM LW RW change to wide midfielder as shown in screenshot 5.

 

My BBM (kante) attacks not to score goals but be more aggressive in trying to get the ball back higher up the pitch. BBM is your work horse midfielder. Once he has the ball he initiates the counter attack. WBs attack the byline and your striker (doesn't have to be Target man just for example) will be ready and waiting in position. 

On counter everything is compact and organised. However I recommend not staying on counter for to long as it requires good teamwork. If you lose the ball as showed in screenshot 3 your LWB RWB are going to get caught. And you will concede. 

Most important thing!

*Keep and eye on stats player ratings

*Pre match assistant manager recommendations I.e jorginho doesn't feel confident. Dont play jorginho. 

*Barkley is looking forward to this match (play Barkley.

*batshuayi is hoping to play this match (hes hoping to play but it's a gamble if he plays better than barkley) 

* intensive training on players to the specific training roles you wish to use. 

* gold staff I use 2 rehabilitation physios and 1 prevention.

*Age doesn't matter if your lower league team sign free agents. And sell them.

* train players across a few positions to open up more options for you. 

That's all for this guide I hope this helps this is how I play FMM this year I'm sorry if some of it's not easily understood.

 

[AndersJ]

EPIC ! Yes should copy this and make it as a "Guide" in the page 😃😃😃👍

[ron1hy]

Thank you. This is so helpful. Do you think the instructions you give to deal with the CPU can be used in any tactic?

[Mr Tree]

all impressive, but i do wonder how much your success owes to the sheer quality of the superbees rather than your own managerial ability....

[Plimmerz92]

Ok then maybe a relegation team like Bolton who start the season on -9 points. Brentford are an average team with 2 or 3 OK players. Bolton Have None lol. Not blowing my own whistle or anything but to be -9 at the start of a season with a relegation team to being 1st and no losses is quite the achievement. 

Edited December 6, 2019 by Plimmerz92

[Plimmerz92]

37 minutes ago, ron1hy said:

Thank you. This is so helpful. Do you think the instructions you give to deal with the CPU can be used in any tactic?

Look at the league your playing in and see what the most common formation is and start from there. Premier league is easy as there isnt too many variations of formations. My tips should help you out but the formation and roles are up to you my friend.

I'm working on a Manchester United tactic and so far I'm not disappointed. 

[DutchTony]

Well done mate. You are clearly smashing this game. I tried this tactic and at home it's awesome. I was scoring 5, 6 or 7 goals a game. Away is where I need to learn to adjust tactics mid game as I lost a few games where I battered the opposition but they have 2 shots and score them both. I will keep experimenting using your guide above though.

[Plimmerz92]

6 minutes ago, DutchTony said:

Well done mate. You are clearly smashing this game. I tried this tactic and at home it's awesome. I was scoring 5, 6 or 7 goals a game. Away is where I need to learn to adjust tactics mid game as I lost a few games where I battered the opposition but they have 2 shots and score them both. I will keep experimenting using your guide above though.

I have that to @DutchTony in the carabao cup I smash them all over the pitch and they score a lucky goal itgoale worst lol luckily i dont mind being knowed out of carabao cup

[AndersJ]

@Plimmerz92 im trying to learn you tricks or some of them and currently testing them, but with my own Schalke04 formation - thank you for helping and sharing

[Mr Tree]

6 hours ago, Plimmerz92 said:

Brentford are an average team with 2 or 3 OK players.

[ron1hy]

"LWB RWB need to be neutral as when required to change to back four u dont want them attacking. I leave that to the Inside forwards and 3 strikers"

when you say this, do you mean their 'focus position' training setting needs to be on DR/L but the 'focus role' setting should be wingback?

Also, when teams go into overload, do i go defensive, sit back, deep and take all arrows off to protect until they change their tactics?

I am 2-1 down and wolves have just gone to contain, narrow, slow and balanced. How do I counter this?

Also, when you say to go defensive, do you mean to change the settings and change to 4 1 2 3 with a ball-winning midfielder as well?

thanks 

Edited December 6, 2019 by ron1hy

[Mr Tree]

8 hours ago, Plimmerz92 said:

@ron1hy

@AndersJ

Ok well the most popular formation the CPU uses on this game is either 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 CPU always starts on balanced. Points to remember.

*4-2-3-1 for example your facing Chelsea who have a dangerous team. Will look to attack you down the wing. Its key to have players able to counteract this. They have pace in willian and pulisic. And the wonderkid Mason mount spearheading the centre attacking midfield.

CPU will start on defence 100% all the time. I always match them and feel them out. If I see the CPU possession bar greater than mine for long periods of time I go to the defence tactic and use the following (deep - sit back) this way it forces the CPU to change from defence to control or attack. 

Once they change I go back to high defensive line nothing else. 

If your fortunate enough to score they CPU will switch back to defence or go onto control. It's important to not jump straight to attack as you will open up your defence and you WILL concede! Stay composed and switch back to defence. 

If you have not scored by half time start making some changes with your line up. Certain players are scared of playing against certain teams. In which you can be guarenteed they wont perform. It's around the 60th minute the CPU will start piling the pressure on depending what the score is at that time. This is where I usually switch to counter if I have not scored. The CPU always trys to win they dont aim to draw.

The cpu will make attacking changes. For example Chelsea always start giroud over abraham if giroud is fit and healthy that is. 

This is where you want to either 

1. Go on counter to try and score.

2. Go on to defence.

3.go on lock down meaning defence , deep defene line , sit back.

The best way to counter 4-2-3-1 I found is to have good passing CBS. Not BPD! And good Full backs who can also pass to the midfield. 

With facing a team like Chelsea you want to avoid Kante as much as you can players like him are key. Passing accurately between defence and midfield nullifies his ability to be a nightmare.

2

4-3-3 

Same principle really except I'll use liverpool as example here. 

If you commit your team to attack or counter to early Mo Salah or Mane will score with a matter of seconds. However the downfall to liverpool you take mane and Salah out of the equasion they lack wingers. 

If you come against 4-3-3 the wingers are the danger not the striker.

I spend majority of the game on defence when facing a big team using 4-3-3.

Again forcing them to jump to control,attacking and when they do I see how my team fares on defence.

*always pay attention to the following stats.

*your attempts on goal

*clear cut chances 

*possession (most important)

If your higher than cpu means stick with what your doing.

In my 2nd season with Newcastle in the champions league final against Paris st Germain I started on defence held the to 0-0 and forced the cpu to go more offensive. My team was adequate at best compared to PSGs frightening duo mbappe and neymar. When they changed I knew if I went to counter I'd catch them out. I switch switch in game mainly between defence and counter. Hardly go control as your players tend to  

1 pass to much and get complacent 

2 make mistakes

3 be out of position.

So the best advice I can give is stay on the ball watch the CPU closely see what there doing.

This is the best example I can give right here on below screenshots. Ignore player roles this is simply names and stats. 

Screenshot 1 usually how Chelsea line up.

CPU will go defence match the CPU and go on defence. Have your LB RB on neutral full backs.

This way forces CPU to change its strategy and go more offensive. 

Screenshot 2 when CPU switch to attack it drags there whole team forward obviously and this is crucial in getting a goal.

This is where I switch depending on how my team is faring on defence. 

When I go on counter I aim to use Wing backs linking to the attack as I use inside forwards.

3rd screenshot how I look at my team when I play counter.

4th screenshot lockdown the whole entire team sits in front of goal doesnt go forward or try to initiate a passing escape they simply clear the ball. LB RB on full back BBM change to BWM LW RW change to wide midfielder as shown in screenshot 5.

 

My BBM (kante) attacks not to score goals but be more aggressive in trying to get the ball back higher up the pitch. BBM is your work horse midfielder. Once he has the ball he initiates the counter attack. WBs attack the byline and your striker (doesn't have to be Target man just for example) will be ready and waiting in position. 

On counter everything is compact and organised. However I recommend not staying on counter for to long as it requires good teamwork. If you lose the ball as showed in screenshot 3 your LWB RWB are going to get caught. And you will concede. 

Most important thing!

*Keep and eye on stats player ratings

*Pre match assistant manager recommendations I.e jorginho doesn't feel confident. Dont play jorginho. 

*Barkley is looking forward to this match (play Barkley.

*batshuayi is hoping to play this match (hes hoping to play but it's a gamble if he plays better than barkley) 

* intensive training on players to the specific training roles you wish to use. 

* gold staff I use 2 rehabilitation physios and 1 prevention.

*Age doesn't matter if your lower league team sign free agents. And sell them.

* train players across a few positions to open up more options for you. 

That's all for this guide I hope this helps this is how I play FMM this year I'm sorry if some of it's not easily understood.

 

Just got round to this, cracking work mate - loads of stuff that I don't really do or think about (probably explains why I'm not very good ). Great stuff 👏