Chat VAR almost always rules out a goal

Anders · January 26, 2021

Does everyone else find that VAR almost always rules out a goal? One match recently I had 3 goals disallowed. It's also rare for opposition goals to be reviewed by VAR.

The players seem to know the VAR result before it's announced, e.g. VAR decision for free kicks vs pen they are already lining up. To be fair, I'm fine with that as it speeds things up.

hhooo · January 26, 2021

VAR will allow a goal to stand maybe 5% of the time in my experience, which matches up with real life pretty well (unless the goal should be chalked off, then it always stands). And yes, there will be some blatantly offside goals scored against you that won't even be reviewed, and times where the commentator disagrees with the call on the field. It is realistic, despite being annoying.

simmah1 · January 26, 2021

In the 4/5 seasons I've played in FMM21, I've yet to have a VAR decision allow a goal to stand, either for/against my team.

In FMM20 in 9/10 seasons, it happened once where a VAR decision allowed a goal to stand.

Definitely seems like a bug to me.

Ashez · January 26, 2021

It's just not random, 99% of the time it's disallowed which makes any call frustrating as we always know the outcome. It's a double whammy as not only do we have the disappointment of not scoring but also the time waste of waiting for something to play out we know the outcome of. Sure it's a couple seconds but it does imo make matches drag when we know the outcome and a few seconds over hundreds of matches does add up over time.

geordiekrispy · January 26, 2021

I've had 2 goals given after a VAR review.

Total. I'm usually still in shock and so forget to screenshot it or save the match to save the clip later.

George Traistă · January 26, 2021

The VAR will give a goal maybe one every 100, maybe. În one save of 22 seasons I only got 2 goals given and I had 3400 goals in that career.

The thing that I hate the most is that the big differences between you and the opposition...

broodje kip · January 26, 2021

I got it quite frequently. Probably about once or twice every season

Anders · January 29, 2021

On 26/01/2021 at 14:13, hhooo said:

VAR will allow a goal to stand maybe 5% of the time in my experience, which matches up with real life pretty well (unless the goal should be chalked off, then it always stands). And yes, there will be some blatantly offside goals scored against you that won't even be reviewed, and times where the commentator disagrees with the call on the field. It is realistic, despite being annoying.

5% doesn't tally with stats I've seen. It's great to know I'm not the only one! 🤪

From ESPN

Total overturns: 71
Rejected overturns: 3
Leading to goals: 21

What seems particularly unrealistic to me is that it's almost always my goals being reviewed, and almost never the opposition. The volume of reviews is also too high compared to reality.

Edited January 29, 2021 by Anders

hhooo · January 29, 2021

7 minutes ago, Anders said:

5% doesn't tally with stats I've seen. It's great to know I'm not the only one! 🤪

From ESPN

Total overturns: 71

Rejected overturns: 3

Leading to goals: 21

What seems particularly unrealistic to me is that it's almost always my goals being reviewed, and almost never the opposition. The volume of reviews is also too high compared to reality.

That second bit is just confirmation bias and or sampling bias. You, being the player, likely score something like ten times the goals you concede. Of course the reviews will almost always be on your goals.

Anders · January 30, 2021

On 29/01/2021 at 14:35, hhooo said:

That second bit is just confirmation bias and or sampling bias. You, being the player, likely score something like ten times the goals you concede. Of course the reviews will almost always be on your goals.

I don't think it's confirmation bias. I'm just as interested in goals against as for. I'm aware of VAR either way, and since it's so rare for opposition goals to be reviewed, I believe I'd notice those more.

I see your point about sampling, so thought I'd see what stats there are. Sadly my rate is about 5 to 1. In 189 goals conceed there have been I believe 2 reviews. That would imply about 9 to 10 reviews from 895 goals scored. Let's assume I've missed half the opposition reviews, so perhaps I should expect 20 reviews. I had 11 goals ruled out just this season so far. (I can't seem to find total goals scored this season. Anyone know if I can find that?)