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Creating Space in the Final Third - The Joys of an AF + IF


‘Creating Space’
in the Final Third

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The Joys of an AF + IF Combination

Why? Multiple people in FMM21 + 22 have asked for help scoring more + creating better chances. You watch their highlights & there’s little space + little penetration in the final third. So here’s one ‘tactical style’ which I’m fond of and enjoy using.

Disclaimers: Other styles also work. This isn’t a super tactic. It’s just a simple way of using in-game highlights to create space + chances. Writing this once also saves me from writing it three times in different threads / PMs.


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The Combination

What? In a simple 4231 - this uses an AF + IF combinations (who works beautifully together) plus a IW + B2B combination (one creates space for the latter).

These 2 combinations are CRITICAL for understanding how this ‘tactical style‘ creates space.


The Tactical Setup

Nothing complex here. The key point is to have short passing through the center. Plus I prefer a normal defensive line (so there is more space for fast AF / IF to run into).

Spoiler

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I used Man Utd with Martial as the AF centrally + Rashford as an IF from the left flank. Most tactics ‘should’ work with a strong team, but this is about ‘seeing’ how you create space + chances in the in-game highlights.


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Will post in-game screenshots + examples in the next few posts.  
 

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‘Creating Space’
in the Final Third

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This post shows in-game screenshots of examples to create space + chances.

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Here you can see two patterns - two types of space + chances which are repeatedly created by this playing style.

There’s 3 of these patterns in total. Let’s explore... 
 

Pattern #1.  
IF creates space for AF

These 3 examples are all from the 1st half of a friendly vs Southampton’s 442 formation.

All show how the IF’s movement creates space for a through ball into the AF’s run - for a 1:1 goal scoring chance.
 

Actual Example A

Spoiler

 

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Our Advanced Playmaker (AP) has the ball (white circle). You can see the IF has drifted inside from the left flank ...

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... as the IF receives the ball, the opposition DRC has to push up to close down our IF ...

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... this creates space for our AF to run into, perfect for a through ball ...

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... in this example, our AF (Martial) shot straight at the opposition GK 🤦‍♂️ <face-palm>

 
Actual Example B

Spoiler

Again our AP has the ball. Note that again our IF has drifted inside + is deeper than our AF ...

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... with our IF receiving the ball, the opposition DRC has to step up, creating space for our AF ...

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... in this example, our AF had a 1:1 with the keeper / clear cut chance - but he shot wide. Urgh.


Actual Example C

Spoiler

Again, the IF has received the ball after drifting inside - with the opposition DRC again having to step forward - creating space fir the AF’s run ...

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... these are patterns where our attackers repeatedly find space. 


Pattern #2.
AF + IW create space for B2B midfielder

From the same match as above - these all show how the AF + IW’s positioning ensure there’s a big gap for our B2B to receive a through ball on goal.

 
Actual Example D

Spoiler

Here our left-sided B2B midfielder Pogba has the ball (white circle) ... 

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... you can see our AF + IF are both tightly marked / right next to each other - so the two opposition DCs are right next to each other also.

Plus the opposition DL stays wide to mark / cover our Inverted Winger (IW) on our right flank ...

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... this gives lots of space for our right-sided B2B midfielder to run into a through ball (red shaded area).

Annoyingly our right sided B2B was McTominay, who is the wrong player for this role, and his poor shot was blocked.

 
Actual Example E

Spoiler

Again our left-sides B2B Pogba has the ball, with both the AF and IF in central positions ...

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... with our IW keeping the opposition DL wide, there’s a huge channel for our right-sided B2B to attack, especially once the ball is played to our central AP ... 

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... again McTominay has a great chance unmarked, but his shot is saved.

 
Actual Example F

Spoiler

Different build-up play, similar space. Our AP is given the ball in a central position ...

... the two opposition DCs are very narrow + clustered together, with a big space between them and the opposition DL who stays out wide ... 

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... again our AP feeds a through ball in to that open space for our right-sided B2B midfielder to run onto.

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I really should have picked a different right-sided B2B. McTominay has had three good, almost identical chances - and scored none. Urgh.

 
Pattern #3.
AF creates space for IF

This only happened once in the first half, but I see it pretty regularly normally.

Here the AF drifts wide to create space for the IF (Rashford) to attack.

Real Example G

Spoiler

Our IF drifts inside + is given the ball ...

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... the opposition DR tracks him inwards, with our AF moving into that space ... 

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... the ball is passed back to our left sided B2B ...

See how our AF is moving inbetween the opposition DR + DC ...

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... and passed onto our IWB, who can feed the ball into our unmarked IF ...

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... who has space as the opposition DRC tries to get back into position ...

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... but Rashford has time + space to smash in a long shot (not a clear cut chance) from outside the box for our 1st goal and his 1st shot.


Two Patterns Together

One great aspect of asymmetrical player roles is that it allows for different types of chance creation on the left and right sides. So here we see MULTIPLE patterns together.


Final Example

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Our AP has the ball centrally. He can either play the ball into the IF (whose about to get space from the AF’s movement) OR play a through ball to the B2B in the empty right-sided channel.

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Our AF drifts just wide enough to create space for our IF (Rashford) to smash in his 2nd goal. Half time: a comfortable 2:0 lead.

 
Talking Points

Spoiler
  • AF - a left footer would be ideal, as a lot of the through balls are behind the opposition DRC onto our AF’s left foot. Lukaku is wonderful for this. 
     
  • Inverted Winger - did you notice our IW (or Winger) wasn’t involved in play once?! Their entire offensive job here is as a decoy wide man, to pull the opposition FB wide.
     
  • Left Sided B2B - Pogba is a good example of what you need. He wants to come inside into his right foot + likes to play killer / through balls. A left footer (e.g. Fred) is very different and I see them flying forward to the left flank for mostly useless crosses. 
     
  • Right Sided B2B - fast, food movement, good shooting. Not McTominay.

 
Next

I will do something similar against an opposition 41221, just to show how it changes / performs when the opposition play a DMC.
 

What do you think?! 
 

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7 hours ago, DanEnglish said:

‘Creating Space’
in the Final Third

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This post shows in-game screenshots of examples to create space + chances.

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Here you can see two patterns - two types of space + chances which are repeatedly created by this playing style.

There’s 3 of these patterns in total. Let’s explore... 
 

Pattern #1.  
IF creates space for AF

These 3 examples are all from the 1st half of a friendly vs Southampton’s 442 formation.

All show how the IF’s movement creates space for a through ball into the AF’s run - for a 1:1 goal scoring chance.
 

Actual Example A

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Our Advanced Playmaker (AP) has the ball (white circle). You can see the IF has drifted inside from the left flank ...

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... as the IF receives the ball, the opposition DRC has to push up to close down our IF ...

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... this creates space for our AF to run into, perfect for a through ball ...

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... in this example, our AF (Martial) shot straight at the opposition GK 🤦‍♂️ <face-palm>

 
Actual Example B

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Again our AP has the ball. Note that again our IF has drifted inside + is deeper than our AF ...

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... with our IF receiving the ball, the opposition DRC has to step up, creating space for our AF ...

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... in this example, our AF had a 1:1 with the keeper / clear cut chance - but he shot wide. Urgh.


Actual Example C

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Again, the IF has received the ball after drifting inside - with the opposition DRC again having to step forward - creating space fir the AF’s run ...

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... these are patterns where our attackers repeatedly find space. 


Pattern #2.
AF + IW create space for B2B midfielder

From the same match as above - these all show how the AF + IW’s positioning ensure there’s a big gap for our B2B to receive a through ball on goal.

 
Actual Example D

  Reveal hidden contents

Here our left-sided B2B midfielder Pogba has the ball (white circle) ... 

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... you can see our AF + IF are both tightly marked / right next to each other - so the two opposition DCs are right next to each other also.

Plus the opposition DL stays wide to mark / cover our Inverted Winger (IW) on our right flank ...

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... this gives lots of space for our right-sided B2B midfielder to run into a through ball (red shaded area).

Annoyingly our right sided B2B was McTominay, who is the wrong player for this role, and his poor shot was blocked.

 
Actual Example E

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Again our left-sides B2B Pogba has the ball, with both the AF and IF in central positions ...

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... with our IW keeping the opposition DL wide, there’s a huge channel for our right-sided B2B to attack, especially once the ball is played to our central AP ... 

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... again McTominay has a great chance unmarked, but his shot is saved.

 
Actual Example F

  Reveal hidden contents

Different build-up play, similar space. Our AP is given the ball in a central position ...

... the two opposition DCs are very narrow + clustered together, with a big space between them and the opposition DL who stays out wide ... 

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... again our AP feeds a through ball in to that open space for our right-sided B2B midfielder to run onto.

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I really should have picked a different right-sided B2B. McTominay has had three good, almost identical chances - and scored none. Urgh.

 
Pattern #3.
AF creates space for IF

This only happened once in the first half, but I see it pretty regularly normally.

Here the AF drifts wide to create space for the IF (Rashford) to attack.

Real Example G

  Reveal hidden contents

Our IF drifts inside + is given the ball ...

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... the opposition DR tracks him inwards, with our AF moving into that space ... 

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... the ball is passed back to our left sided B2B ...

See how our AF is moving inbetween the opposition DR + DC ...

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... and passed onto our IWB, who can feed the ball into our unmarked IF ...

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... who has space as the opposition DRC tries to get back into position ...

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... but Rashford has time + space to smash in a long shot (not a clear cut chance) from outside the box for our 1st goal and his 1st shot.


Two Patterns Together

One great aspect of asymmetrical player roles is that it allows for different types of chance creation on the left and right sides. So here we see MULTIPLE patterns together.


Final Example

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Our AP has the ball centrally. He can either play the ball into the IF (whose about to get space from the AF’s movement) OR play a through ball to the B2B in the empty right-sided channel.

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Our AF drifts just wide enough to create space for our IF (Rashford) to smash in his 2nd goal. Half time: a comfortable 2:0 lead.

 
Talking Points

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  • AF - a left footer would be ideal, as a lot of the through balls are behind the opposition DRC onto our AF’s left foot. Lukaku is wonderful for this. 
     
  • Inverted Winger - did you notice our IW (or Winger) wasn’t involved in play once?! Their entire offensive job here is as a decoy wide man, to pull the opposition FB wide.
     
  • Left Sided B2B - Pogba is a good example of what you need. He wants to come inside into his right foot + likes to play killer / through balls. A left footer (e.g. Fred) is very different and I see them flying forward to the left flank for mostly useless crosses. 
     
  • Right Sided B2B - fast, food movement, good shooting. Not McTominay.

 
Next

I will do something similar against an opposition 41221, just to show how it changes / performs when the opposition play a DMC.
 

What do you think?! 
 

This looks good if you have the right players I would try it really soon I would finish my test by Thursday

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5 minutes ago, deepheat83 said:

Interesting write up.

How are the results?

Good question.

Short answer, on this year’s FMM, “no idea”, haven’t completed a full season yet.

Long answer in the spoiler

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Have been using variations of this since full fat since FM12 (inc. last years FMM) pretty happily - with tactical tweaks based on how the match engine / opposition AI has changed in each year’s version. Generally win the league with a decent team, or continental places with a smaller team. Nothing world beating, but solid.

Also I don’t use one tactic all season - I switch between 3-5 tactics depending on my available players, the opposition and (within each  match) the scoreline. So have no idea how any one tactic would perform across a season.

Lastly, I’m not really bothered about the general results (I.e. over a season). Instead I’m sharing this because (a) some people have been asking for help creating better / more chances, and (b) it may help people to watch the extended highlights in a different way - to create, find and then exploit space. Let’s see.

 
Am making screenshots now of this vs a 41221 - will write it up later - as there’s different space closed off by the opposition defence. Interesting stuff, at least for me.

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I do something similar (mine is AF, IF, IW with AP behind and in midfield one BBM and one RP) with a three at the back system I'm playing around with. Two W either side with a P up top has also worked quite well.

It's been good so far.

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1 hour ago, Schwantz34 said:

I do something similar (mine is AF, IF, IW with AP behind and in midfield one BBM and one RP) with a three at the back system I'm playing around with. Two W either side with a P up top has also worked quite well.

It's been good so far.

Glad to hear it 👍 probably there are many people here who play something similar. Hopefully this gives others some visual insights into what about it should work & why it should work.

Yes gotta love the 2 wingers / 1 poacher variants. I can’t see your image - but two speedy wingers + an aerial ST with a great, but also two decoy wingers with a speedy creative ST also is fun to tinker with. Am curious what your setup was - will try to see your image again later on.

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@DanEnglishreally great write up! Really love the concept of the B2B as runners from deep attacking the space. I’m interested to see how it works against a back 3 as I find it significantly harder to exploit the channels against 3 at the back 

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‘Creating Space’
in the Final Third

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Vs an Opposition DMC (41221)

In the previous post we found lots of space against an opposition 442.

Lets now see it vs an opposition 41221 - crucially with an opposition DMC who protects their back 4.

Spoiler

We are playing against a weaker Aston Villa side in a friendly with our Man Utd team on day 2 of a new save.

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The only changes to our setup is Lingard as our right-sided B2B (as McTominay can’t shoot) + testing Greenwood upfront (as he’s two footed)

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Patterns 1+3. 
AF + IF creating space for each other

This combination performs worse against an opposition 41221  - their more defensively-positioned central midfield three don’t give as much space to our main creators - our left sided B2B + IF.

Spoiler

There are some opportunities created in a similar way to the previous post ... usually when the opposition DMC is out of position / closing down our two midfield B2Bs.

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... but is usually the opposition DR + midfield three can close down our creators - without the need for their DRC to step up.

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This means there is rarely space behind the defence for the AF / IF sown that left hand channel.


Pattern 2
AF + IW create space for B2B

This still works beautifully well  - creating multiple opportunities vs Aston Villa’s 41221 formation - going around the opposition DMC, down our right hand channel.

 
Example A

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This shows the space down our right hand channel.

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  • The opposition DL stays wide, protecting against our IW.
  • The two opposition DCs stay central, marking our AF + IF.
  • So there’s a big gap down that channel

Unfortunately in this case our AP didn’t play this pass, instead passing it bs k to recycle possession.

Example 2

Spoiler

Very similar to the first example, here our AP has the ball again ... 

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... who turns + plays a beautiful through ball into that space for our B2B to exploit ...

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... thankfully this is Lingard (not McTominay) - who shoots into the corner. 1-0.

Unfortunately Lingard isn’t that quick nor that technical (14-15 / 20), so he got closed down a bit quicker than I’d have hoped for, but still had a half chance which he converted. 

Example 3

Spoiler

This time it’s our Inverted Winger (Sancho) who provides the through ball ...

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... our B2B midfielder (Lingard) has space to move forward with the ball ...

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... do you notice how our B2B midfielder wasn’t tracked back by the opposition MLC ... ? ...

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... our B2B Lingard shoots + scores. Nice.


“Lost Pattern”

This pattern used to work in last year’s FMM21, but I haven’t got it to work in this year’s version yet.

Our IW can play a through ball behind the opposition defence for our AF ...

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Spoiler

... but our AF isn’t quite in the right position (a Poacher would, buy doesn’t have the same movement as an AF elsewhere) ...

... plus our IW doesn’t play the through ball. Maybe a left footer who ‘plays killer passes’? Mata was good for this in last years.

Maybe one of you will get it to work.

  
Summary

We know this works great vs an opposition back 4 with no DMC (e.g. 442) ... and now we know half of it works when the opposition has a DMC.

 
Next

One day I’ll probably revisit this game, but with a left-footed B2B (Fred) as my MLC instead of our right-footed Pogba - to show how the attacking patterns change + one way to adapt to the opposition playing a 41221. 

However first we’ll test it vs an opposition 4231 and vs it’s nemesis (a back 3).

Thoughts?
 

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Well made this is, do you know where  there is any breakdowns on the IW role itself it’s my least used role, I only use it if I don’t have a naturally footed winger on that’s side and only then if I don’t have a IF, I always saw them as a wide AP that would look to cross rather than play short balls?

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21 hours ago, lcutini32 said:

I’m interested to see how it works against a back 3 as I find it significantly harder to exploit the channels against 3 at the back 

Completely agree with you. The opposition back 3 really closes down the channels, so this formation / style usually is rubbish against it. I typically change to a 3142 or 3412 instead.

41 minutes ago, YetAnotherDisplayName said:

Well made this is, do you know where  there is any breakdowns on the IW role itself it’s my least used role, I only use it if I don’t have a naturally footed winger on that’s side and only then if I don’t have a IF, I always saw them as a wide AP that would look to cross rather than play short balls?

That’s a good question which I don’t know the answer to. I use an IW as (1) a decoy winger to create discs for my B2B, IF and AF in that right hand channel, and (2) as a wider version of an AP in that position, who can play through balls into the right hand channel and behind the defence. But the latter is harder for me to get working in this years FMM. Otherwise I have no idea.

Maybe someone else can help?

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On 22/02/2022 at 12:59, DanEnglish said:

Completely agree with you. The opposition back 3 really closes down the channels, so this formation / style usually is rubbish against it. I typically change to a 3142 or 3412 instead.

That’s a good question which I don’t know the answer to. I use an IW as (1) a decoy winger to create discs for my B2B, IF and AF in that right hand channel, and (2) as a wider version of an AP in that position, who can play through balls into the right hand channel and behind the defence. But the latter is harder for me to get working in this years FMM. Otherwise I have no idea.

Maybe someone else can help?

Am starting something new this night with this tactical setup

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On 24/02/2022 at 05:24, Victor77 said:

Am starting something new this night with this tactical setup

Great. As a heads up, I should have said at the start that this tactic is not plug and play, plus it’s not a super-tactic.

It just creates nice space and chances which you can see repeatedly in the highlights - useful for people who struggle to create good chances in the final third.

The one problem which I didn’t foresee is that the AF and IF combination also seems less effective vs an opposition [edit: 41221]  - I didn’t realise this as was still scoring, just from set pieces, other chances.

However the good news is that the B2B midfielder consistently gets chances for me down that right hand channel  - vs an opposition 442, 41221 and 4231 (thankfully).

So this tactic may be useful to learn patterns from - but maybe isn’t going to be a world beater on this years FMM. Hope that clarifies things a bit more. 

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PS. This thread is on-hold for me which I spend my limited time on the Vibe draft league.

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This is great!  So interesting. I have an overpowered team and find I'm clogging up the final third, so I might try some of these ideas.

Thanks for your all your work putting it together.

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