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Career Scratch Presents - The John Charles TT [Season 4]

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On 12/09/2020 at 00:25, Aaron Thornton said:

Brilliant first two seasons mate, with the players and team as a whole improving you won't be too far off hitting 130+ goals a season very soon, KIU mate your smashing it

Thanks mate! I can only dream of that day at the moment, not quite happening for me right now... But I'll stick with it until we finish this one way or another...

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On 12/09/2020 at 00:56, RichDave32 said:

Great season mate, it’s only going to go from strength to strength and especially when you find the right tactic😁

Thanks mate. But there's a typo in what you wrote. Better cross out "when" and replace it with "if"... 🤣

Still struggling to come up with something. I try a tactic and it looks good, then I drop £190M on a player to support that formation and then it stops working... 🤦‍♂️  Rinse and repeat...

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On 12/09/2020 at 01:26, Kanegan said:

Great season mate getting over 100 goals.

Thank mate. But in truth La Liga doesn't look too strong and and I've got world class players (real ones, not regens I've grown) so I'm hoping OI can push that number higher - struggling a little at the moment.

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On 12/09/2020 at 20:13, smoggy90 said:

Great start to the challenge mate and despite that bad injury there’s definitely progress. I can see a truckload of goals in the seasons to come for these guys. 

Thanks mate. I sure hope so! 

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Update - Season 3

At the end of last season I said the targets for this season were: "we want to bed down a tactic, minimize the number of goals going to other players and push the number of goals up above 120".

I'd love to say 2 out of 3 ain't bad. Or even 1 out of 3 ain't bad. Sadly, I can't...

 

Tactics

I tried so hard to make the asymmetrical tactic I showed last time work. Here it is again (though it's the mirror version and I mostly went with DF TM DF):

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I even spent £190M on a player for the RW position. But after a full 6 months with it, I decided I had to abandon it as the lads weren't scoring enough. We'd get 20 to 30 shots on goal, but would only score 3 to 4 and generally less than half of those would go to the strikers. Here's their form after the first 15 games:

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I tried going back to some of the tactics I used previously, but they didn't work any better either. I tried going with Defensive and Control for a while, to stop the midfielders scoring so much, but once again, mixed success and nothing reliable. This what I'm using right now, but I won't stick with it:

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I'm afraid it's back to the drawing board at this point.

 

Transfers

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I'm still clearing out useless players from the second team. It's amazing how many mediocre players are at this club. Also, it seems in Spain the game ignores you when you tell it which promoted players to keep - instead you get all of them and have to manually release the ones you don't want.

Of the big names going out: Berge got upset about playing time and would not settle down, so I had to let him leave; while, Wague, Firpo, Arthur and Ruiz made way for better options (mostly brought in last season).

The players coming in were all young hopefuls, except for the £190M man, Sterling. I've never been the biggest fan of him in the game and avoided him for years, but he runs with the ball down the right and hugs the line, so I brought him in for the now abandoned AMR winger role. I had been using KDB there, but despite having good Crossing, he kept wandering over to the box...

 

Results

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We won everything this year:

  • We won the Euro Super Cup beating Tottenham 3-0.

  • We won the Spanish Super Cup, beating Real Madrid 2-1 in the final.

  • We won the Spanish Cup, beating Getafe 3-0 in the final.

  • We won the league, scoring 124 goals (10 down on last season).

  • We won the Champions League, beating Dortmund 4-0 in the final.

 

Injuries

Todibo had a month long injury and Godfrey had short injury (removed from training, didn't say how long):

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Also, Todibo (once) and Godfrey (twice) had in game injuries (ie no follow up message or injury, just low condition), but I didn't bother screenshotting this time around.

 

Development

They ended the season looking like this - a small improvement on last year, Movement looking good, Shooting too low, not very striker shaped:

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Goals

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Here are there totals from this season:

  • Todibo scored 38 goals from 45 games

  • Martinez scored 36 goals from 49 games

  • Godfrey scored 35 goals from 45 games

Much more balanced between the players than last season, but less than I was expecting at this stage.

 

Totals

Season Todibo Martinez Godfrey TT Total
01 39 17 27 83
02 50 16 43 109
03 38 36 35 109
Total 127 69 105 301/1500

 

Looking Forward

So, we didn't bed down a tactic, or get to 120 goals, or minimize the number of goals going to other players.

I can't say that it was a bad season necessarily, but it was a frustrating one. What can I do but come back and try again next season - so I'll see you then...

 

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That’s a good season in my eyes mate, especially when you have the centre backs by trade doing the business, still over a 100 goals for them and not far off your 120 target. It’s so hard to create a tactic that works, I’m sure you’ll crack it in time 😁

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4 minutes ago, RichDave32 said:

That’s a good season in my eyes mate, especially when you have the centre backs by trade doing the business, still over a 100 goals for them and not far off your 120 target. It’s so hard to create a tactic that works, I’m sure you’ll crack it in time 😁

Yeah, my brain tells me that when I look at it, but it just didn't feel like that during the season!

It might be partly because I normally start at teams which can't afford KDB, etc, or anyone anywhere near that level, so I almost always go the 'young players and develop them' route, and when you get the whole team levelling up one after another, the second and third seasons normally see a big improvement in goals. Of course this time around I'm not getting that boost.

But also it's the sorts of goals that are going in. There are a lot where there is a ball into the box, it rebounds out and a CM smashes it in from 30 yards. I guess I'm used to seeing my strikers head those in, but it's much rarer here (I guess I need more Aerial, but they aren't developing it much this save). 

And also I'm a bit spoilt because with my DT I came across a tactic that got insane amounts of goals for the stikers (180 between them at some points!), so really hard to come back to earth here. And to not be able to find a solution to these problems (yet). 

Anyway, hopefully I'll improve it a little. 120 is my target for now and if I get that, we'll see where it goes!

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I think they’re doing well. Yes, they look good now in some ways but they’re still centre backs and two of them have less than great shooting.

All in all, great stuff and just need to keep going now.

 

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19 hours ago, Ian said:

I think they’re doing well. Yes, they look good now in some ways but they’re still centre backs and two of them have less than great shooting.

All in all, great stuff and just need to keep going now.

 

Thanks mate. You're right of course. But I'm still trying to squeeze more goals out of them!

I've tried about 10 different attacking tactics in the first half of the season and I'm currently on my most attacking one yet:

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I tried something like that, except two upfront, in my DT, and it worked okay (not as good as my eventual tactic). With three up front it can be a little hit and miss. We get more goals and a good chunk go to the three lads (they are all subbed in that screenshot), but you can concede a lot and have to swap tactics mid game. We'll see how it goes, I might not stick with it.

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On 14/09/2020 at 06:41, Scratch said:

Looking Forward

So, we didn't bed down a tactic, or get to 120 goals, or minimize the number of goals going to other players.

I can't say that it was a bad season necessarily, but it was a frustrating one. What can I do but come back and try again next season - so I'll see you then...

Bad season!!! have you gone stark raving mad!!! there are some that would love these numbers with 3 perfectly good strikers, you are doing it with 3 perfectly good defenders! Really impressed, you make this look to easy, my challenge is can you do it with Stalybridge Celtic (VNN) or Las Palmas in the Spanish second division 🤣 o now that is a challenge...

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6 hours ago, Cockers2505 said:

Bad season!!! have you gone stark raving mad!!! there are some that would love these numbers with 3 perfectly good strikers, you are doing it with 3 perfectly good defenders! Really impressed, you make this look to easy, my challenge is can you do it with Stalybridge Celtic (VNN) or Las Palmas in the Spanish second division 🤣 o now that is a challenge...

Haha, yeah I might have lost it a while ago now...

It's all relative I guess. I would have been over the moon with these numbers a couple of years ago, but I'm coming off the back of a career where I did the DT in 10 seasons and some years the strikers combined for 180+ goals. I somehow thought that I should at least equal that with 3 strikers, but it turns out I'm having a lot more trouble with 3. The DT really took off when I found the the right tactic, which is why I keep searching for one that works better for a TT.

So yeah, I'm doing pretty well here I guess, it just doesn't feel like it. Good to see the game doesn't always just roll over and let you break it! 

I have thought about a lower leagues 1KC, but I think it would be hard to find the right player who'd be available at the start, but have enough quality to do it once you got promoted all the way... Might be more feasible in Wales or Australia or Ireland or something (ie top level of a weak league). 

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Update - Season 4

We go into season 4 aiming to bed down a tactic, minimize the number of goals going to other players and push the number of goals up above 120. I think we made progress towards all of those, but I'm not sure any can be called a success - though I did eventually settle on a primary tactic (for now).

Anyway, let's get on with things...

 

Tactics

In the first half of the season I went through about 10 tactics, each more attacking than the previous, until I eventually settled on this one for the second half of the season:

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It seems to consistently get more goals than anything else I've tried, and it feels like a higher percentage go to the strikers (though I don't think the maths backs that up). The only downside is that while I win most games comfortably, every so often I'll ship 3 or 4 goals and have a real fight on my hands.

I'm not sure it's that much better than some of the ones from say season 2, so I'm not 100% sure I'll stick with it, but it's what I'm using for now. Here are some of the other ones I tried this season:

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Transfers

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Going out: KDB lost some attributes due to injury and at 30, they weren't gonna come back, so we cashed in (great player for 3 years though). Silva and Semedo both got upset due to rotation issues and wanted to leave.

Coming in: TAA was the big signing. Never used him before, but he looked class and can fill a number of positions (useful when changing formations every week). Of course signing another defender made Todibo worry about his place in the team... 🤦‍♂️

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Results

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We won everything again this year:

  • We won the Euro Super Cup beating Krasnodar 7-2.

  • We won the Spanish Super Cup, beating Atletico Madrid 2-1 in the final.

  • We won the Spanish Cup, beating Atletico Madrid 4-2 in the final.

  • We won the league, scoring 146 goals (our best so far by 12, fairly happy with that).

  • We won the Champions League, beating PSG in the final on penalties.

 

Injuries

Godfrey had two separate month long injuries (despite being very rarely injured):

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Todibo and Martinez got through unscathed this time around.

 

Development

They ended the season looking like this:

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Martinez had the biggest advance with +3 Shooting and +2 Movement. Todibo had +2 Movement and +1 Shooting. Godfrey had +1 Shooting. Of course Positioning and Tackling also improved for most of them.

I've had very little luck improving their Aerial, but that's in keeping with CDs this year - I've not had much success with them at all. TMs still get pretty a good increase, but it must be related to their 'shape' rather than the position being trained, as all three are training as TMs.

 

Goals

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Here are there totals from this season:

  • Todibo scored 54 goals from 54 games

  • Martinez scored 39 goals from 49 games

  • Godfrey scored 22 goals from 37 games

Not bad, a slight improvement on last year, but still plenty of room for improvement.

 

Totals

Season Todibo Martinez Godfrey TT Total
01 39 17 27 83
02 50 16 43 109
03 38 36 35 109
04 54 39 22 115
Total 181 108 127 416/1500

 

Looking Forward

We are getting more goals and like I said in the Tactics section "it feels like a higher percentage go to the strikers", but that's not really reflected in the totals. Still we're going in the right direction and even if this is the most we can get each season, we're on the right path and it will only be a matter of time.

 

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3 minutes ago, Rob said:

Excellent season. 

I find it really hard looking at their stats and switching my perspective to analysing them as a striker. It breaks my brain.

Thanks mate. Haha yeah, they look a bit odd. They are much more striker shaped than they were (especially Movement), but there's no getting away from the fact that they aren't naturally strikers. Actually, they look more like central midfielders than defenders or strikers... A bit of both.

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Great season there mate, love the wacky tactics your trying out. Like you said the boys started as CD's, they're now BBM's, a few more seasons they might transition to forwards 😂 anyway keep it up mate your smashing it

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Brilliant season.

They do look like they’d make great midfielders. In fact, I could just do with a couple of them to replace the ageing Tonali and Bentancur on my save.

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12 hours ago, Aaron Thornton said:

Great season there mate, love the wacky tactics your trying out. Like you said the boys started as CD's, they're now BBM's, a few more seasons they might transition to forwards 😂 anyway keep it up mate your smashing it

LoL, two of them are yellow in central midfield, maybe I should retrain them there.

They are all still getting a few development points after each good game, so they have a little development left, but it must surely be almost over. They are good enough as they are though, so I'm not worried, either way.

6 hours ago, Ian said:

Brilliant season.

They do look like they’d make great midfielders. In fact, I could just do with a couple of them to replace the ageing Tonali and Bentancur on my save.

LoL, hands off mate! 😠 They have long term contracts locked in place. Anyway, these are Barca boys, no way they are going over to that white team... 😄

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2 hours ago, smoggy90 said:

Great season mate, despite the frustration in nailing a tactic in S3 it looks like you’ve got something good going now. 

Thank mate. Yeah, doing pretty well, just not as well as that grand old time in Italy! I think that made it harder to accept that I might not be getting 180 between them each season! Back to reality now where 120 is plenty good and anything on top of that will be icing...

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10 minutes ago, Scratch said:

Ooh, update!

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Let's see what he got! 

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Yay... +1 Tackling! Just what a Target Man needs. Thanks FMM...

 

That's annoying, he might tackle an error prone goalkeeper or defender more often now 😂 other than that I can't see how it will be useful

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