Chat FMM23 - General Discussion

[YetAnotherDisplayName]

11 hours ago, Marc Vaughan said:

• General - can improve all players somewhat, no bias for a particular area or age range.
• Defensive - can improve defensively minded players at a higher rate than a 'General' coach
• Attacking - can improve attacking minded players at a higher rate than a 'General' coach
• Motivational - can improve all players (at a slower rate than a 'General' coach); can also improve mental attributes in a positive manner better than any other coach. Also helps improve morale of players when it is low.
• Goalkeeping - can improve goalkeepers at a higher rate than a 'General' coach
• Youth - can improve youth (under 23) players at a fasster rate than a 'General' coach, can also help younger players with their mental attributes - especially coping with pressure.
• Fitness - can improve physical attributes at a far higher rate than a 'General' coach.

I'll add in descriptions to the game for these in an update / future version - good call.

PS - Also worth mentioning that the 'vibe' your coaching staff has affects which youth players come through the ranks, so if you have all 'General' coaches then you'll get a mix, if you have more attacking then you'll see more attacking youth players, if you have lots of fitness coaches then youth players will be better in that area than they would have been otherwise etc.

The 'vibe' also has a subtle effect behind the scenes in terms of how well trained in an area the team is, so your teams defensive cohesion is slightly improved depending on the coaching in that area etc.

There might be a couple of other things I've neglected to add (I'm currently cooking a meal) but if they come to me I'll update this post later.

One last thing does the coaches ranking have a affect on training e.g I’m attacking will this mean attacking players improve even faster and same with my assistant, I say this because when I have a youth coach as my assistant the best youth rating definitely goes up (an finishes closer to ratings pa to ca) than with others as my assistant. Or is this just a Mandela affect 😂 

basically if I want certain area to develop fastest have myself an a assistant in the areas I was to improve the most

[Migraz]

The off side option... Even with defenders good at decision, position and speed, it did not work all around in my saves... I have got the idea that is an option only for a certain kind of oppositions (quite attacking formations). Any similar experiences on that? 

[YetAnotherDisplayName]

51 minutes ago, Resurgam said:

League one Ipswich town won the FA Cup and will be playing in Europe on my save 😂

Reminds me of millwall when they lost in the final to Man U got into the old uefa cup.

jmagine they start signing big euro names so they can play in Europe 😂 

[VinnieV]

3 hours ago, Resurgam said:

League one Ipswich town won the FA Cup and will be playing in Europe on my save 😂

Is this a bug? According to UEFA regulations teams below tier 2 are not elligible to enter European Club Competitions.

Edited December 17, 2022 by VinnieV

[Migraz]

😲 we are talking about a 2003 in june 2023... "he's thinkin about retirement at the end of the contract" (in 2 week)

 

[YetAnotherDisplayName]

On 06/11/2022 at 20:33, MikeF said:

Interesting. And ‘Tutor staff’ is new or is that just paying to have a coach has their exam? That’s old if so. 

No it’s a cheeky little backhander 😉 gorn son put him through an I’ll sort you out geez say no more 

[Resurgam]

6 hours ago, VinnieV said:

Is this a bug? According to UEFA regulations teams below tier 2 are not elligible to enter European Club Competitions.

Never knew that

[Dekileo]

I have question about mentoring..does mentor need to be at same position/same side as player who learns in order to get some stats transferred? 

[YetAnotherDisplayName]

Why are goalkeeper always the ones with the most potential in you youth intake
 
had three 5 star PA this year an all other players pa was 3 or less I swear in two intakes you could field a full 11 of keepers with 3star + potential 

[Titjes]

31 minutes ago, YetAnotherDisplayName said:

Why are goalkeeper always the ones with the most potential in you youth intake
 
had three 5 star PA this year an all other players pa was 3 or less I swear in two intakes you could field a full 11 of keepers with 3star + potential 

I have exactly the same thing going on everytime 🙄

[YetAnotherDisplayName]

48 minutes ago, Titjes said:

I have exactly the same thing going on everytime 🙄

I think it’s been done to give you a sweeper keeper easier (in the long run as I have 2 potentially) but yeah every club all levels I have 3/4 goalkeepers and 3/4 youth players it doesn’t make sense hope next year we get a full first, second and youth team (only players below say 23 could play in) because in championship side you start with 50 odd players anyway 

also be able to pick a coach to manager b teams I don’t play in Spain Germany france etc because you can’t affect training 

[Marc Vaughan]

2 hours ago, YetAnotherDisplayName said:

Why are goalkeeper always the ones with the most potential in you youth intake
 
had three 5 star PA this year an all other players pa was 3 or less I swear in two intakes you could field a full 11 of keepers with 3star + potential 

would you mind posting a screenshot of your coaching staff?

[YetAnotherDisplayName]

34 minutes ago, Marc Vaughan said:

would you mind posting a screenshot of your coaching staff?

I took heed an had no goalkeeping coaching staff 😂 

[Legend288]

I have same . More talants are gks.

[hhooo]

4 hours ago, Marc Vaughan said:

would you mind posting a screenshot of your coaching staff?

Same here, disproportionate number of keepers in the youth team and no GK coach. 

 

 

[Adrien]

I have the same experience with the goalkeeper yout intake 

[Scratch]

I haven't had the goalkeeper thing happen to me in Scotland or Italy. Maybe it's an England thing?

Is it every season or only the first season? 

If I had a save where it was happening, I'd investigate it a bit, but nothing to go on right now.

[Scratch]

22 hours ago, YetAnotherDisplayName said:

Why are goalkeeper always the ones with the most potential in you youth intake
 
had three 5 star PA this year an all other players pa was 3 or less I swear in two intakes you could field a full 11 of keepers with 3star + potential 

I just started 4 saves as Birmingham and holidayed through to the intake.

I had 1 GK, 0 GKs, 2 GKs and 2 GKs in those 4 saves. So a total of 5 GKs across 4 saves, which isn't that many. 

Four of those showed up as having a rating of 3.5 to 4 stars in the development hub, while one had a rating of 1 star. In actual fact, the 4 who had a better rating had real PAs of 123, 123, 136 and 136. The one that had a one star rating had a real PA of 123.

That tells me several things:

• These are decent GKs for the Championship level, but you have to remember that the rating doesn't really correlate directly to PA, it is just the staff's view of those players (and may get more accurate over the year, but still won't always be accurate). 
• In my case, although I had 5 GKs, they were all based on 2 players - I verified that the 3 PA 123 players all had the same height, weight, feet, Injury Proneness, etc. Likewise, both PA 136 players had the same values as each other. 
• And they weren't regens as we have come to expect, which makes sense because no-one has retired yet. That means that there is some pre-generated list of players to use for the first season (definitely regens as in previous years once you get to season 2).
• We don't know how long the list is for season 1, maybe it's fairly short so the same GKs keep coming up for you all. Maybe it's heavy with GKs? Or maybe it's just that the GKs in this list are better on average than players in the other positions? 

Of course that is only a small test. I'm sure there other GKs that could come up and I'm sure that sometimes it's more than the max of 2 pre intake that I got. But, from what I saw in this test, it's not like there are a bunch of super goalies in the game (at least as far as I saw).

[hhooo]

5 minutes ago, Scratch said:

I just started 4 saves as Birmingham and holidayed through to the intake.

I had 1 GK, 0 GKs, 2 GKs and 2 GKs in those 4 saves. So a total of 5 GKs across 4 saves, which isn't that many. 

Four of those showed up as having a rating of 3.5 to 4 stars in the development hub, while one had a rating of 1 star. In actual fact, the 4 who had a better rating had real PAs of 123, 123, 136 and 136. The one that had a one star rating had a real PA of 123.

That tells me several things:

• These are decent GKs for the Championship level, but you have to remember that the rating doesn't really correlate directly to PA, it is just the staff's view of those players (and may get more accurate over the year, but still won't always be accurate). 
• In my case, although I had 5 GKs, they were all based on 2 players - I verified that the 3 PA 123 players all had the same height, weight, feet, Injury Proneness, etc. Likewise, both PA 136 players had the same values as each other. 
• And they weren't regens as we have come to expect, which makes sense because no-one has retired yet. That means that there is some pre-generated list of players to use for the first season (definitely regens as in previous years once you get to season 2).
• We don't know how long the list is for season 1, maybe it's fairly short so the same GKs keep coming up for you all. Maybe it's heavy with GKs? Or maybe it's just that the GKs in this list are better on average than players in the other positions? 

Of course that is only a small test. I'm sure there other GKs that could come up and I'm sure that sometimes it's more than the max of 2 pre intake that I got. But, from what I saw in this test, it's not like there are a bunch of super goalies in the game (at least as far as I saw).

In my IALWTTT, I've been averaging about 30% of my intake as keepers each year, and one of them has been the best prospect every year except one. 

It could be one bizarre string of luck, but maybe capping keepers at 20% of the intake wood be a nice touch. 

[YetAnotherDisplayName]

1 hour ago, Scratch said:

I haven't had the goalkeeper thing happen to me in Scotland or Italy. Maybe it's an England thing?

Is it every season or only the first season? 

If I had a save where it was happening, I'd investigate it a bit, but nothing to go on right now.

Nope it’s between for 2 season in Germany same in Italy also. 

Edited December 19, 2022 by YetAnotherDisplayName
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[Marc Vaughan]

12 hours ago, Adrien said:

I have the same experience with the goalkeeper yout intake 

Cool - thanks for the feedback, to let you know the goalkeepers coming into a team will be limited in a future update (and I'll try and work out why so many are coming through at once, I 'think' I might know why - but haven't 100% confirmed it yet these things are somewhat complex in nature and thus proving sporadic issues are a bit of a mare).

PS - Just to warn people I'm 'officially' on holiday until January at present, so won't be quite as active as usual on forums, facebooke etc. .... although I will undoubtedly pop-on now and again.

[Uncleseekx]

2 hours ago, hhooo said:

In my IALWTTT, I've been averaging about 30% of my intake as keepers each year, and one of them has been the best prospect every year except one. 

It could be one bizarre string of luck, but maybe capping keepers at 20% of the intake wood be a nice touch. 

Same here, most of the intake are keepers with at least one being good while other outfield players are bad 

[Uncleseekx]

7 minutes ago, Marc Vaughan said:

Cool - thanks for the feedback, to let you know the goalkeepers coming into a team will be limited in a future update (and I'll try and work out why so many are coming through at once, I 'think' I might know why - but haven't 100% confirmed it yet these things are somewhat complex in nature and thus proving sporadic issues are a bit of a mare).

PS - Just to warn people I'm 'officially' on holiday until January at present, so won't be quite as active as usual on forums, facebooke etc. .... although I will undoubtedly pop-on now and again.

No problems Mr Vaughn 

[Dekileo]

I need some help about mentoring.I browsed site a bit but didnt find anything.If u know some useful thread about it pls can i get a link? Cheers

[Ariza8]

Here's my current GK, not bad eh 😁

Coming from academy in the first season. And in 4 season most of my academy player with 3-4 stars assessment are GKs. It gets better after this season (4th), where I got some different position with more than 3*.

[Uncleseekx]

Has anyone have issues of players missing clear cut chances for fun? The players seem to forget that the aim is to score and not miss shots. My players with high decisions don't seem to know this. Game is becoming unplayable for me

[Marc Vaughan]

11 minutes ago, Uncleseekx said:

Has anyone have issues of players missing clear cut chances for fun? The players seem to forget that the aim is to score and not miss shots. My players with high decisions don't seem to know this. Game is becoming unplayable for me

What is the morale, personality and age of the players involved? - young players who are on a bad streak will tend towards being more erratic than experienced players with model personalities for instance.

[Dekileo]

They need to release one more update,this gk producing only is meh

[MikeF]

On 16/12/2022 at 22:57, Marc Vaughan said:

• General - can improve all players somewhat, no bias for a particular area or age range.
• Defensive - can improve defensively minded players at a higher rate than a 'General' coach
• Attacking - can improve attacking minded players at a higher rate than a 'General' coach
• Motivational - can improve all players (at a slower rate than a 'General' coach); can also improve mental attributes in a positive manner better than any other coach. Also helps improve morale of players when it is low.
• Goalkeeping - can improve goalkeepers at a higher rate than a 'General' coach
• Youth - can improve youth (under 23) players at a fasster rate than a 'General' coach, can also help younger players with their mental attributes - especially coping with pressure.
• Fitness - can improve physical attributes at a far higher rate than a 'General' coach.

I'll add in descriptions to the game for these in an update / future version - good call.

PS - Also worth mentioning that the 'vibe' your coaching staff has affects which youth players come through the ranks, so if you have all 'General' coaches then you'll get a mix, if you have more attacking then you'll see more attacking youth players, if you have lots of fitness coaches then youth players will be better in that area than they would have been otherwise etc.

The 'vibe' also has a subtle effect behind the scenes in terms of how well trained in an area the team is, so your teams defensive cohesion is slightly improved depending on the coaching in that area etc.

There might be a couple of other things I've neglected to add (I'm currently cooking a meal) but if they come to me I'll update this post later.

This is great stuff. So useful. 
 

@Marc Vaughan- any difference between coach and ass man other than job title?

[Uncleseekx]

4 hours ago, Marc Vaughan said:

What is the morale, personality and age of the players involved? - young players who are on a bad streak will tend towards being more erratic than experienced players with model personalities for instance.

From this I can get why Endrick and Scarlett should be missing chances but Oshimen, Mbappe and Lautaro miss sitters and their morale is always above good