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Tactics When Harry Met Sané (1-3-4-2) - EME

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*WARNING* This post contains images of a graphic nature, and is therefore not for the faint hearted.

Hello Vibe and welcome to a little tactic post I have for you guys. I’m not normally one to post tactics in a stand-alone thread, as I usually just post the relevant tactic at the end of a career thread. This one however is different. It may be an absolute game breaker to be honest, and I’d very much like any of you guys to test it further if any are interested. 

So first off, let’s have a look at what this tactic is capable of...

Results:

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This was the first season totals, a huge 280 goals scored. By far the most I’ve scored in a single season in any FMM game.

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172 Premier League goals is no mean feat. Yes, the defence could be better but who cares about that when you’re averaging 4.5 goals Scored per game. 

So that was the first season, now let’s see how the second season went...

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Not as dominant, but with the extra competitions we were involved in it balances out i suppose.

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Looking at the the Manager Profile for season two shows we scored 279 goals throughout the season, which is only one goal less than season one, so goal-scoring wise it’s consistent, although we did end up conceding a bit more in season two.

Season Two Fixtures:

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As you can see there’s some huge scorelines in there, so if it’s goals you’re after with no afterthought for the defence, this is the tactic for you. 

Finally, let’s have a look at what you’ve all been waiting for...

Formation:

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There she is! In all her glory, Ladies and Gentlemen I present to you the “When Harry met Sané” 

A single central defender may be daunting at first, and I agree that using this with a poor team would be catastrophic so I only recommend that you use an elite side when using this. For player suggestions, the only thing I can say is make sure you have a fast CB, I use Aymeric Laporte and rotate him with John Stones, both of these players have a pace rating of 15+ Other than that, use your own initiative when buying the players, make sure you have a couple of “jack of all trades” on standby, as it will heavily knock on your squads fitness due to the high demanding roles. These player roles have never been changed, and remain a constant throughout the season, something I can’t say about the instructions as they do change depending on opponent, which I’ll go into now.

Tactical Shape:

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These are the basic tactical shape instructions. I do however depending on opponent change mentality from control to attack and sometimes even to overload, but very rarely do I venture that far. Width, Tempo and Creative Freedom I never touch and they remain the same throughout.

Defensive Instructions:

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I have tinkered with this but have settled on these instructions as the most consistent. High line with an offside trap seems to work well, and with just a single CB in the defence that trap should theoretically be successful fairly often. I have used “All Over” closing down to great success but found that the opponents were scoring quite freely when this was on.

Attacking Instructions:

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Again, these are the starting instructions that I use, but these are the ones I switch around the most. Playing against a defensive minded team and struggling to break them down? Then switch passing to “Direct” and turn on “shoot on sight”. Or you could even turn on “run at defence” to try and draw defenders out to free up space for any one of your six attacking players.

And that’s it. A career is inbound featuring this tactic and I will link it when that is available. Any questions, feel free to ask. Further testing by someone would be fantastic as I’d like to see other people’s interpretation of the tactics requirements.

Career Thread:

https://fmmvibe.com/forums/topic/41951-when-harry-met-sané-a-double-trouble/

Thanks for reading

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30 minutes ago, Villen said:

How about striker goals ? 

Now that is something I can’t reveal as of yet. That’s part of the career so I don’t want any spoilers as of yet. All I can say is that it’s good!

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· Posted (edited)

It's weird and I LIKE IT!!!!!

I'm in the middle of something and testing this will be useful, I'll let you know shortly how we get on

Edited by Taff

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7 minutes ago, Taff said:

It's weird and I LIKE IT!!!!!

I'm in the middle of something and testing this will be useful, I'll let you know shortly how we get on

That would be brilliant mate! Thanks

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1 minute ago, Nucleus said:

That would be brilliant mate! Thanks

No worries, there going to be quick tests with the tactic on the exact same set up as you have it with the game picking my team (I'll explain more later)

 

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2 minutes ago, Taff said:

No worries, there going to be quick tests with the tactic on the exact same set up as you have it with the game picking my team (I'll explain more later)

 

Look forward to see what you got in store for us! 😮 

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11 minutes ago, samhardy said:

Is nobody going to comment on this title :@

Are you as mad as I am? Thought it was genius 😅

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That is one weird looking tactic mate :D

But on FMM I wouldn't be surprised that this tactic will do fantastic :laugh:

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14 minutes ago, Titjes said:

That is one weird looking tactic mate :D

But on FMM I wouldn't be surprised that this tactic will do fantastic :laugh:

Believe it 😉

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I think you have taken @BatiGoal's mantle mate!!

This has....dare i say! GENIUS(Yep i did) written all over it.

😲😂 delightful.

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Ok here’s my results mate

I used the same format for every team

  • Start save place tactic in place
  • holiday until first league game
  • let the AI pick the squad
  • play until the team won
  • only made subs for injuries 
  • changed teams and repeated 

Heres the fixture list of every team in Italian Seria B

Spoiler

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Then I went ahead and did the same with the big 5 

Juventus, Bayern, PSG, Real Madrid and Chelsea 

Spoiler

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Not sure if this helps but it shows it can work you just need to put the effort into finding the right players

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3 minutes ago, Taff said:

Ok here’s my results mate

I used the same format for every team

  • Start save place tactic in place
  • holiday until first league game
  • let the AI pick the squad
  • play until the team won
  • only made subs for injuries 
  • changed teams and repeated 

Heres the fixture list of every team in Italian Seria B

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Then I went ahead and did the same with the big 5 

Juventus, Bayern, PSG, Real Madrid and Chelsea 

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Not sure if this helps but it shows it can work you just need to put the effort into finding the right players

Shows how shit the AI is then 😂😂

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Love it! I play with two CDs in one of my tactics, but just one is frickin’ madness. Great stuff and looking forward to how the career goes!

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1 minute ago, Rob2017 said:

Love it! I play with two CDs in one of my tactics, but just one is frickin’ madness. Great stuff and looking forward to how the career goes!

Thanks mate. I’ve never played with more than two defenders this year tbh. It’s usually two cb’s with two advanced wingbacks either side 😂 why have an extra defender when you can have an extra forward 😉

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This looks insane and really game-breaking 😂

Gonna try this out (with a non elite team) and see how it works.

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Gave this a try on the OME and it was a disaster really lol.... Got 9 goals from a single player in arsenal 

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2 hours ago, obj140 said:

This looks insane and really game-breaking 😂

Gonna try this out (with a non elite team) and see how it works.

I doubt it’ll work for a poor team mate, I did state that 😝

2 minutes ago, lilgwanz said:

Gave this a try on the OME and it was a disaster really lol.... Got 9 goals from a single player in arsenal 

Ok thanks, that’s why it’s on the EME

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39 minutes ago, Nucleus said:

I doubt it’ll work for a poor team mate, I did state that 😝

Ok thanks, that’s why it’s on the EME

Doesn’t the second quote prove your response to the first quote? 😭

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3 minutes ago, Rob2017 said:

Doesn’t the second quote prove your response to the first quote? 😭

You’ve lost me... 

Hold up...got it 😂😂😂

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21 hours ago, Nucleus said:

You’ve lost me... 

Hold up...got it 😂😂😂

😂😂😂

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I tested this tactic on EME with Man City with only slightly different transfers and i played Sane upfront and retrained him. I am surprised at your results because i have only won 16 of my 22 games with 2.5gpg Sane has just 12 goals while my other striker Kaziah sterling (i know he's not amazing but still) has just 7 goals. I would like to see if anyone can replicate his results because they seem slightly unrealistic. We are winning the EPL but only by 2 points and we only got 10 UCL points. We lost 5-1 to Real Madrid and have only hit 5 or more goals in a game twice against Feyenoord and Southampton. Please could someone else test this and see if they can get close to @Nucleus's results because it's making me slightly skeptical of his 2k.

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3 minutes ago, Eogtuc0910 said:

I tested this tactic on EME with Man City with only slightly different transfers and i played Sane upfront and retrained him. I am surprised at your results because i have only won 16 of my 22 games with 2.5gpg Sane has just 12 goals while my other striker Kaziah sterling (i know he's not amazing but still) has just 7 goals. I would like to see if anyone can replicate his results because they seem slightly unrealistic. We are winning the EPL but only by 2 points and we only got 10 UCL points. We lost 5-1 to Real Madrid and have only hit 5 or more goals in a game twice against Feyenoord and Southampton. Please could someone else test this and see if they can get close to @Nucleus's results because it's making me slightly skeptical of his 2k.

Thanks for testing, I’d be interested to hear what sort of changes to instructions you make ingame? Or do you leave it as it is?

I’ve had several people test it privately and they’ve all said that their getting good results, so I’d like to see your interpretation of the tactic before calling me out

And to be honest I post careers because I like to, Ive had consistent results across the whole edition of FMM18, now cheating which you are accusing me of is something I’ve never considered doing as to be honest I’m not sad enough to juggle a work life/being a parent and posting decent (I think) careers on here for everyone to read.

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Just now, Nucleus said:

Thanks for testing, I’d be interested to hear what sort of changes to instructions you make ingame? Or do you leave it as it is?

I’ve had several people test it privately and they’ve all said that their getting good results, so I’d like to see your interpretation of the tactic before calling me out

I'm not calling you out and was never expecting as good results as you. The only changes i make are when a team is playing defensive or contain and i'm not winning by half time i put it on Direct passing, shoot on sight and run at defence. Anyway i'm probably just a bad man-manager or something

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1 minute ago, Eogtuc0910 said:

I'm not calling you out and was never expecting as good results as you. The only changes i make are when a team is playing defensive or contain and i'm not winning by half time i put it on Direct passing, shoot on sight and run at defence. Anyway i'm probably just a bad man-manager or something

It sounded like you were to be honest. If you’ve read my career instead of just jumping on the “I’m not getting as good results so he must be cheating” bandwagon then you’ll clearly see me state that I’ve changed the tactic several times over the course of the career, and I’ll be happy to show which changes I’ve made at the end of said career. Now in my honest opinion, is Kaziah Sterling a fair representation of Harry Kane as Target man? Not really, I’ve built that tactic from scratch to play to the strengths of the players I wanted in the team, and I’m still adjusting it season by season depending on transfers. End of the day you can think what you like as I’m happy enough knowing that the people who have commented on the career are enjoying it.

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